Do you think the homeless will revolt because of their anger? The homeless out number us in some parts such as san fransisco, and you could see the anger in their eyes. Just like the french revolution and how the poor were in poverty and they became annoyed of the nobles luxery each of them living like a king.
We live like kings compared to them. They out number us greatly in some parts. If they unite do they stand a chance?
No, they wouldn’t
They are weakened, emaciated hobos. If they can’t even muster the will to work, how much fight could they have in them.
that’s why the liberals need to demand that there be enforcement of the homeless second ammendment… have the liberals’ taxes increased once more to buy the homeless guns. it is their right to keep and bear arms afterall and what good liberal (there are no good liberals) would dream of denying a homeless person their rights?
liberals should demand the right to arm the homeless so they can have their revolution…
-Imp
They already have, they have the government steal what they need, or they get the religious dupes to lessen the impact of their choices.
If the homeless could organize a revolt then I think that they would be displaying a major character shift. That would bring the revolt to a hault as we, and they, would all be impressed.
In some areas they may outnumber those living in homes, but overall they do not. They would probably be cut down by the National Guard or the police.
Also, why are they homeless?? They are provided a tax-paid k-12 education, and Pell Grants for higher education if they choose to apply themselves.
You’re also assuming that all of the homless people don’t want to be that way. I bet you there are some homless people that are perfectly fine with being homeless.
Indeed, there is often a large section of the homeless community that choose to live “outside of the socio-economic infrastructure” of society…
Some of these people may be seen as “genuine rebels”!!
Rather than all middle-class youth of today smoking weed, listening to shit rebellious rock, smoking weed and drinking to much cheap wine - thinking they are making some statement of indiviudality while at the same time challenging today’s social and moral climate! They should all try fending for themsleves one day “on the street, in the jungle” (perhaps I should take some of my own advice)
The lack of understanding of homelessness is
astonishing. You people ought to ashamed of yourself.
First of all, over 50% of the homeless in the U.S.
is families with children. The causes of that side of
homelessness is the fact, most of america is one or two
paychecks from being homeless. Reasons for
homelessness is medical bills, job loss, death in the
family. Reason for homelessness in single people
is usually other reasons, for instance drugs and alcohol
abuse, mental problems, vets who are suffering traumatic stress
syndrome. I myself was homeless for a couple of months
due to losing a job and I couldn’t find another one,
(remember one or two paychecks from being homeless).
I hope none of you ever go homeless, It is not a fate I would
wish on my worst enemy.
Kropotkin
First of all, having worked in several soup kitchens, I would like to say that the majoirty of homeless people have jobs and are very hard working, but are homeless because of some misfortune, (had an accident and didn’t have health insurence, can’t get a job because of mental disorder, etc.)
But no, I don’t think they could or would revolt since many of them are working hard to be not homeless and there’s a big disparity between the differant kinds of people who’re homeless. However, they are organized to a small extent. There are several newspapers and newsletters for the homeless scattered across various cities around the country.
PK:The lack of understanding of homelessness is
astonishing.
Colin: Not at all…All I was highlight was that there is a small section of people who “prefer living a rough/almostbeatnik life - rather than live within the social-ecnomic infrastrcuture”…This no bold claim. No is it a claim to understand homelessness. It was merely an observation - some rare few reject society and choose homelessness…or rather…try to remain outside the infrasctures system…not bold claim!
I’d say that this is mostly the case in the west. In the third world countries, things are a world away. The poorer Iraqis didn’t revolt because they were either locked up behind Saddam or lined up before Lucifer. I’ve been kind of homeless in Englad for numerous days and nights during the past four years, and I tell you in those times I couldn’t think of nothing except robbing banks and murdering cottagers. Finding jobs and begging foods were obviously what I eventually did, but I tell you, if I had good chances, I would have walked the prefered way. Long term and long haired homeless people are dangerous. I speak from pesonal experience.
Chuckle, I would like to see stats regarding the education level of most homeless, and the number of children they have. Yes, some have lost their home due to misfortune, but I bet most are living in the street as their skill levels suck, and they have more children than they could afford on minimum wage.
Trust me, I have many foolish female students in class who actually believe that a man will take care of them. If he dies “Well, I’ll get his money.” If he leaves “Oh, he won’t do that.” Dolts, they will have four or more children and you and I will be supporting their children.
Our tax dollars pay for a great deal, education that they refuse to learn and general common rules that many refuse to abide by. Think about this, and remember, I see this daily.
Listen all, I am entitled to my opinion.
I think there are some things that need to be kept in mind before we begin to blame the poor and homeless people: they are not separate from their environment but an integral part of it.
Consider these points.
1-It is not a fate any would envy (so why would anyone make deliberate decisions that lead to it if they are sound of mind? Precisely, they wouldn’t). Circumstances, environment, family (or lack of hereof), no opportunity, etc contribute to it.
2-Due to the fact that in North America many public mental health institutions are being closed to save tax dollars, many homeles people are shut outs NOT of sound mind
3-Our society has reluctance to assist people with different needs. There is a prevailing attitude of “screw the poor, that’s their lot in life. All I care about is me and mine.” The homeless especially are seen as just being “lazy” when the fact is that they came from extremely unpleasant homes where study was impossible (scholarships are for those in the middle class who have BOTH a place and time to take advantage of it-though there are some that specifically apply to the poor there are not enough that consider the cultural gap that needs to bridge the inner city with the insulated ivory tower). These homeless are likely plagued by PTSD from the abuse they’ve sufered and they’re not getting help. Medical insurance for them is out of the question. In short, the people today don’t seem to have a heart anymore to take care of their neighbours but rather to mock them (until they find themselves homeless, poor, or alienated as well one day).
4-Everyone knows you need money to start with in order to make money in the future. How do people on fixed incomes get ahead when they don’t have the sex education, or education generally, necessary to preclude unwanted pregnancies? With no skills, something they have no opportunity to access due to the stark lack of resources they have, unlike those in middle-class homes, how are they going to break the cycle?
5-American society in particular praises the rags to riches idea eventhough it is a statistically impossible occurance. It does not happen.So, for these people the poor deserve their fates due to no motivation.
6-The poor are necessary in idustrialized counrties in order to fill the body bags of police military actions elsewhere.
7-The poor and homeless have no real advocates because there are no rich companies to support lobbiest groups to fight for them. Thus, politically they are also shut out of the system. I think that woman who committed those abuses against the Iraqi soldiers was indicative of this. She is a victim of her nation which uses her to prop up the middle-class. She obviously never had the opportunities for self-actualization that rich kids do, thus she remained ignorant in so many ways. She is the poster child for the disadvantaged, poor and homeless. She was probably a step away from homelessness, as many of us are if we live paycheck to paycheck. I’m definitely not defending her behavior only that it makes sense if one considers her education. Is this thus so extaordinary.
8-The cultural gap between the poor and the monied is vast. Do the poor place a premium on education, reading, family discussion? No, because they struggle or do not have opportunities for this. People need to realixe that you need to start off with a family that values education. How is that possible if they see no benefit to doing well? It’s better to drop out for the odd job or criminal opportunity that becomes available.
Woops!
Got carried away there for a bit.
As to the question: if you push people enough they will break and resist. Revolution however will not come immediately. It requires that the majority feel alienated by the government. Until that time it is unlikely. It must await the imminent suffering of the middle-class first. It has to touch us all before there will be action. This though we like to pride ourselves on our evolved, advanced state.
Excellent point Kaman, I forgot the mentally ill, who indeed are shut-out. Could not agree more. Wasn’t it Reagan who instigated this? Right, regarding veterans and combat stress syndrome. Our VA hospitals are a stain upon our land. Granted, there are many who are truly mentally ill who are homeless, but many who are not.
Hum, right many grew-up in abusive homes, and often cannot think, much less study. Many of these individuals are away from home for 6+ hours a day, enrolled in school. Unfortunately, many of our schools are in chaos because we have so many youth who behave instinctively, and never think.
Many business owners, including Bill Gates, have stated I will not hire your students because they lack the skills, self-control, have too many obvious tasteless tatoos and body piercing, and do not have any sense of pride in a job well-done. This lack of self-control is evidenced with the number of drug addicts who made a bad choice, and there is still argument as to whether they are mentally ill or just simply lack self-control.
Chuckle, how many individuals my age did not have a daddy or mommy with a belt, paddle or switch, which is currently considered abuse. California was number one in the US during the early sixties, and the schools were under total control. Then the mid to late sixties hit and the slide has been downhill ever since.
Again, we do spend billions in education for our youth, and it is not often not taken advantage of. Hence, we end up with miniminally skilled young adults having children they can neither nurture, clothe or shelter. Remember, many of the homeless are not mentally ill, they are miniminally skilled children who had children, and are often homeless.
Any ideas? Currently, most states and our federal government are too far in debt to generate funds for the homeless. Also, I am not sure if throwing money at the problem will help.
To me it is the parents who need to be responsible for the life or lives they bring into the world, but too many expect society to care for them and their offspring. There was an article regarding the homeless, and many of these disadvantaged, if fact all interviewed were not mentally ill. Food for thought.
Look, it’s foolish to find one thing to tack homelessness on, whether it be bad parenting or what have you. The truth is that every homeless person has their own reasons. It could be drugs, it could be the oft reported diminishing of skills based work in the U.S., it could be mental illness, etc. But to say, too bad it’s their own fault is, to my view, a strain of denial against the imperfections of our economic system. Now, I’m not promoting outright socialism here, (it’s my personal belief that pure capitalism and pure socialism would both encounter serious problems,) but I am saying that if we don’t address the problems of our system, we live as hypocrites.
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So what are your suggestions? Please enlighten us. We should be taxed to care for the billions in the world who are starving. Look at Zimbabwe, the breadbasket of Africa whose current dictator who confiscated the white settlers land, had them wiped and some had been there for 50+ years, and now all are starving because he had them beaten and thrown off the land. The list is huge.
We can send billions to help the poor in these lands. Know where the money and supplies end up, in the greedy dictators hands. Also, missionaries are often killed for providing food, shelter, ideas for agriculture to these poor people. It is not appreciated. BTW: regardless of what we do, they generally hate us.
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If I remember correctly, we sent our troops in to Somalia(?) to bring food to those starving, eighteen of your troops were cornered and killed. Hence, I tend to agree with you, must we continually try to save the world, when so many hate us?
Also, much money given to charity does not reach the needy, it only lines the pockets of the organization’s administrators.