Many are stuck in desperate want for what isnât to be, the very heart of suffering.
I am 100% homosexual. I have never been with a woman, never want to, never will.
My existence is a testament against your assumption that there are no true homosexuals. Iâm one. My heart and my sexuality goes exclusively to another man.
And I do not hate women, I just am not sexually interested in them. But a naked woman in front of me, no sexual reaction on my part. Theyâre rather boring. I just see them as potential friends.
I was never sexually abused either.
That personâs statement reeks of sheer ignorance, but, then, itâs probably a person who never interacted with many homosexuals to begin with. Jeez, AndrĂ© Gide and Oscar Wilde were homosexuals. Two genius writers.
Welcome to ILP, if nobody has said that to you so far.
You sound mad in the head indeed!
You canât be gay one moment and then be straight the next. That makes no sense. You can be straight and participate in homosexual activity however - but just liking an activity is not your orientation unless you exclusively participate in that activity all the time and you want to be with a particular sex all the time.
I do not believe in transexual ideology - it doesnât exist. You are only a male or a female determined by your chromosome pairings - express yourself how you want, but it will never change your sex. Sex is determined at the time of conception it cannot be changed.
Sexual orientation can, but it is a slow process, it is not like you described. That was just sexual energy, indeterminate on the sex of the person - or wanting to do something homosexual. This is not the same thing as your whole sexual orientation changing in a snap.
Thank you max but I am just a homosexual, like a heterosexual but flip flopped - not a sex addict. There is a clear difference. The LGBTQ crap makes them the same thing, but they are not the same thing.
Where did I imply the sex addiction bit?
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When you say âthat personâ who are you referring to - me or someone else?
Many people donât know who we true homosexuals are, they just think it is sexual activity, because Christianity, Islam, and Judaism only see it as an activity. Orientations donât exist in their minds.
Was obviously referring to the person you quoted lol.
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It wasnât clear to me. Very well then.
Youâre a conservative, anti-LGBT gay person?
Yes. But LGBTQ political party, they try to represent all of us homosexuals but it doesnât work that way. But because they are so much louder than us, it makes us look invisible.
Yes, Iâm what one would call a conservative homosexual. There are many of us in Russia as well.
We fully accept our orientation no problem - but we put relationship first before marriage. This is especially important for us because the Christians, Muslims, and Jews make us look like we are sex addicts, as if homosexuality is just for the taking. It is humiliating and dehumanising. They stole our identity. They took our innocent orientation and turned it into some sex addiction circus so now people wonât take us seriously.
Homosexuality is just as serious as heterosexuality. If one is not homosexual, and 99% of people are not, then please donât steal our identity and take advantage of it to fulfill oneâs sexual addictions and hunger. We true homosexuals donât exist for that. That is why I am still a virgin in my late twenties - sex is something one does within a long term relationship only. Homosexual orientation goes far beyond sex. In fact sex only as a fraction, albeit a foundational fraction, to do with the orientation. But Abrahamism doesnât teach this, they just teach we are sex addicts who just want sex all the time, and it just means we like sex with other men. Period.
We conservative homosexuals hate the LGBTQ PRIDE stuff and would actually join those in Russia to do rainbow flag burnings. Because it is not who we are. It is a flag of identity theft and sex addiction. We donât want that to be taught to society just like many heterosexuals. That is why if you talk to many gay Russians, they will say the same thing - we are against those parades and identity theft. Part of the reason why that LGBTQ stuff and their parades are illegal in Russia, unlike the US - and many gay Russians are surprisingly fine with the political partyâs illegality and the illegality of its parades a - Americans donât understand why.
Itâs not internalised homophobia as the woke always try to say to me. We are comfortable, fully âoutâ everyone knows about our orientation that knows us / asks. But we live like anybody else - we are not in those parades and other obnoxious stuff PRIDE is about. Thereâs no pride in being gay, it just is what it is. Thatâs thinking like a low life - Iâm proud of something I am and never worked for.
We just are - itâs not something we worked for. We are proud of our achievements at work, the things we do for our families, etc. Not stuff like skin colour, sexual orientation, other nonsense the WOKE wants us to become losers and be proud of things we donât work for like low lives.
Itâs not popular in the US AT ALL, conservative homosexuality but it is popular in Russia. I have the best conversations with them because they understand. I canât stand the gay people here in the US their obnoxiousness! Thatâs part of the reason why I canât find anyone here - nearly ALL OF the homosexuals are Woke, if a majority of them are even gay Tuuggh.
We can have a discussion on this but Iâm not sure whether itâs worth it, as my views in this topic are radically different from yours.
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Itâs up to you. Iâm on here to actually hear some interesting points of views. But as far as the LGBTQ+ woke stuff yeah I heard it all already on Reddit, Quora, Instagram, and Facebook. They hate me on all of those platforms and I was regularly reported / banned for what they deemed as âhate speechâ. I heard the other side and was even given death threats on Gab from Christians. So they hate me too. So do you think you have any viewpoints different from any of them?
Some time ago I wrote an essay here about my take on this topic, you can read it if you will:
Okay, this is way too much to read.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam IS extreme. In ALL ITS FORMS. All Christians, Jews and Muslims are extreme. Thatâs what I think about that.
Freud was a Jew. I would say the same thing if he was Muslim or Christian. They only know how to think in their Abrahamic box - they are not capable nor willing to look outside of it. Thatâs why I never read Freud - and those other mad psychologists.
What would be more interesting is researching how the Taoists, Hindus, and other heathens pagans have to say about the subject.
When I say I am agnostic and anti-Abrahamic I MEAN IT. I do not see the world the way Abrahamic religions see it. There are only a few things I agree with them, like monogamy, abstaining from alcohol, etc. but thatâs it. And I am vegan like Buddhists support but I am not buddhist. So the point is I take the good from them but leave the bad - and Abrahamism is bad.
That was clear, because if you did, youâd know his views had nothing whatsoever to do with âAbrahamismâ. He was ahead of his times in every regard, had quite peculiar and personal opinions on the subject of human sexuality.
Okay.
ILP makes me put 15 characters before I can post.
About which subject, specifically? Homosexuality or sexuality as a whole?
The vast majority of old traditions see it as something wrong or harmful, antinatural. My whole point in the essay you didnât read is that sexuality is always natural.
Homosexuality.
No most of those religions do not officially have anything against homosexuality. The Abrahamic religions AND THEIR LEFTOVERS (recovering Abrahamics, or those heavily influenced by Abrahamism) do. The exception are the religions among Aboriginal peoples and the Aztecs.
Let me see if Iâm reading you right.
You reject Abrahamism because itâs against homosexuality, but you endorse its support of anti-LGBT (anti-âwokeâ) policies?
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