I know I shouldn’t be whining, but a lot of shit has been happening lately. I know I should keep it to myself, however, I want to let it out and see what intelligent responses I can get from a philosophy forum.
I have to train a 40 something stupid, loser mum who thinks she knows everything, she even questioned what I just taught her in front of my manager. Who the hell does she think she is. She is over 40, speak poor English and she thinks she has prospect of promotion. Why aren’t people more realistic about themselves now days? Why do people like that who have to be trained by someone 20 yrs younger think they are better than everyone else? Why can’t nobodies just accept themselves as nobodies and leave it at that?
Well, I guess if she was smarter she wouldn’t be in the situation she is in now. We are all masters of our own fate.
I’m ignoring more of the things she spat out because I don’t want to waste any energy on the piece of shit, but then the shit stink too much and I can’t just hold my nose.
How do I breath without inhaling the shit? i.e how do I work with that old fart I don’t respect?
This loser is like someone flipping burgers at McDonalds at 40, or some 50yr old still stuck in grade 5 and tries to be a smart ass by competing to answer questions for grade 5 kids.
One more thing, why can’t those people turn around and ask ‘hey, I’ve been living for 40 yrs and i’m still a loser, where have I gone wrong?’ once they actually asked the question and identified the problem then they are on the road to being winners, sometimes people just don’t have the guts to face the truth about who they are.
Train her properly, note down her resistance to being taught (even report it to your superior) and then wait for her to fuck up. If she’s as useless as you say, it won’t be long.
honestly, I have difficult time respecting older people. they are not wiser than I am, they are no better than I am, the only difference being they are older and closer to death. I guess everyone want to be respected but few deserve any respect.
I’m still pissed off this morning, I work up with an imagery of her in a child constraint and me holding the leash.
she ‘oh oh, I’m going to change the world’ her eyes poping out like an enthusiastic 5 yr old when she is clearly 40 with children of her own.
and me ‘no, stay back, don’t touch that, that’s dirty! oh no, don’t go there, that’s dangerous’
That loser thinks she is somebody, and I just want to say to that pathetic mum that “YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO CRAWL BEFORE YOU CAN RUN”.
I guess the existence of people like that reinforces the fact that growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional. Even though I’m younger than her, I’m in more way much more mature.
I think its about perspective mate. If you really don’t like her, and shes getting to you just remind yourself of all the things you’ve just said. Shes not better than you, shes below you, and for someone so opinionated that thinks shes all that, it must be killing her that shes being trained by you
If she’s been openly throwing the age difference in your face, I would simply point out that while she may have twenty years in age on you, you have ________(Months, years) of experience in the job on her.
Basically, a know-it-all person that thinks they can walk on a job and know how to do everything can come in any age, but they are all equally a pain in the ass.
Also, if she questions the way you do something, invite her to go to the person above you and tell him/her about it herself, that way, if (and most likely, when) she’s wrong, she’ll look like an idiot, and the manager doesn’t see you in a position where you’re about to lose your temper.
I have to say, your presenting some really fascinating dynamics. While some may consider yours a predictable perspective, I still find it quite interesting.
We’re basically looking at an existential crisis here. Well, maybe possible existential crisis. Since we’ve established you are younger and she is older, I would imagine this could possibly trigger some instinctual mechanisms. She’s older, therefore, all of this by default, she knows more. And by gum, you too are going to know about it. If she’s racked with fear and simply trying to overcompensate, then this is a defensive mechanism you might have to wait out (for a long time). Simply following your protocols seems the best course of action. Do that which you are supposed to do with her, if you know what I mean (I had training in mind, here, you sick bastards). If her know it all habit continues, don’t approach it head on until you really understand her response mechanism, otherwise she’ll just remain defensive to a point where you’ll find yourself in a cyclical pattern of insanity. Don’t do this to yourself. You are too young. It’s not worth it. Trust me, I know these things.
So people in their forties are old now? I learn something new everyday.
yeah, i’m just taking things easily now. I don’t think about, but I just don’t want her to stuff things up in the office cuz it looks bad on me. at the end of the day, we all have our homes to go to, nobody likes their job and we should avoid petty quarrels at work as much as possible.
My intention today is to go into work and get someone sacked. Lazy bitch hardly ever does work and constantly takes days off ‘sick’ when I know full well she’s been out on the booze the night before. Which means I have to do her work for her when she’s not there.
I never could figure out why people have a hard time firing people. I have done it. If you do it for the right reason then there should not be a problem.
I suppose firing people for the wrong reason or your boss making you fire someone for the wrong reason would be tiny bit hard , but, in a city? Chances of you ever seeing that person again is about nil.
If you canned them then you actually are giving them an opportunity to seek a better job. If they are getting canned for the wrong reasons then the job obviously sucks. You are stuck but, you just freed them. Now only you suffer at a suck ass place, because you had no backbone to stand up to your boss or you fired for the wrong reason. Kind of fitting, but certainly no problem.
To me, it is not just about older or old people who you don’t respect. I think you can ask that of anyone really. I am older, but would never act like such an ass.
To Your First Paragraph: Absolutely, when someone becomes a detriment to so great an extent that they make the job of their superiors harder, (either with lack of professionalism, not doing the job right, or not doing the job at all) even though I don’t take pleasure in firing someone, it is quite easy for me to do. Of course, I am by no means hardcore, I have been in management at three different locations, have had over 40 employees combined directly under me and have only fired one. I simply told him, “My job is easier when you aren’t here, when I am doing the schedule I actually stop and factor in how busy are we going to be this day, that way, if we are busy I won’t schedule you because you are of no help to me whatsoever.”
To Your Second Paragraph: That would still be easy, because if you fire someone for the wrong or fabricated reason, or to take blame off of yourself not only are you an asshole, but being an asshole it is easier for you to shake off firing someone that didn’t deserve it.
Finally, I’m not sure (except in the rarest of events) that when one person fires another he/she believes they are doing it for the, “wrong,” reasons.
