How many of you are Trannies or Eunuchs?

Okay…

I recall Taz back on Nietzsche Forum cut his nuts off, he is currently barbarianhorde on this site, might be shirldmaiden too, can’t keep track. That’s one

Trixie claims to be a former male tranny, so that is two.

Phred the Fuckhead admits to ‘going through a phase’ where sticking his sausage in a meat grinder was high on his list of priorities

Benny BS (whatever his name is) admits to being feminized and may or may not be gay, I really can’t remember.

Let’s see… the manniquin issues, I don’t know much about that, nothing against him, just sounds like a Lady Boy to me

Satyr… well fuck. Fuck fuck fuck. He’s the king of the ferries, his whole site is built around pleasing his weird as fuck homosexual nazi impulses. Still not convinced Lyssa is a real person.

Anybody else? Probably.

Like… I recall Erik wanted to get a group of young guys together for no real reason other than talk Hitler and playing toss the pickle. Pays a little too much attention to his hair, so that’s borderline. Not helping that he hangs out on KTS.

I’m not worried about gay or bi, or minor paraphilia like foot fetishes or threesomes, or you let your cat watch you when you do it. Just… what the fuck happened while I was gone? Like, literally everyone on this site started stabbing at their genitals once I left.

Someone who I remember from before, explain what the hell happened while I was gone.

And who the hell is this Ecmandu guy? No one is possibly that stupid. Its simply not possibly to be that idiotic and still be able to type.

Ecmandu is not stupid! He has an IQ of 160, and spatial IQ of 250! Also, the first person on earth to earn the ‘right’ to live, breathe, and have sex!

Honestly though, I think he’s becoming a rather dangerous nutcase… who knows what he’ll do next.

Can he cure people of cutting their privates off?

You know, prior to Iraq, I well knew of Marxist and Anarchist theories out there and never liked them, but it was in Iraq, that I became disgusted by the sight of the results of millenial front line warfare. The Shiites and Sunnis were originally of the same tribe in my area, distant from the front lone, looked the same, but the closer you got, you could see slight little differences in their noses. Only nonnegative trait one could detect in a population that loved their clan but despised their enemies, their neighbors, and heavily interbred with the one or two near by villages still sectarianly tolerable to them. I never could get over how deeply unsettling it was to see whole communities living just across a far, seeing one another generation after generation, plotting to blow one another up, as a group.

The degeneration of ethics lead to serious health issues, a considerable portion of the population, due to excessive inbreeding derived from hatred lead to a considerable number being born midgets, or retarded, or just grossely lame. The retards were chained to trees, or fridges. Children severely beaten, walking around with black eyes. Women treated as cattle, homosexuality and feminization rampent.

That last part always struck me as odd. Islam forbade homosexuality, but so much of it was actively and openly gay.

Its only now I’ve figured out why. The root cause of my severe and deep rejection of the Nietzscheans came from first hand knowledge of the very system they preached, saw it in Iraq. Shit doesn’t fucking work. Not in the fucking least.

I expect homosexuality does have a natural frequency across any given population, I can tolerate it more when you do the finger comparison of a gay guys fingers… their fingers grow differently due to the hormonal imbalance in the womb… is this genetic or just a congenital defect, I don’t know… but the results seem simple enough, and self evident. But not in men who don’t match this obvious pattern. And it makes little sense for someone to go through a lifestyle change like a Sardanapullus, or King Zhou of the Shang, and blame that on genetics. That is much more than a simple hormonal imbalance, that is a indulgence introspectively and socially into a disease… multiple disorders at once. And the severe reaction society had in leading a war of liberation against these tranny tyrants was severe. Its impact lives with us today.

At root, I think its not so much Nietzsche persay, but the ideas he clung to, that is creating this escalation to the absurd, just like in Iraq. Its turning straight men into homosexuals, Assinnum, as the ancient term was… a small limited elite of men commanding men playing fuck games with values, so long as it profits them.

I’ve always held the word values in suspect, have been at times on the verge of abandoning it. It doesn’t actually eludicate a psychological mechanism, intact complicates by merging several discrete systems in the mind. But both Christians and Nietzscheans use it, and just shrugged my shoulders, not much giving a fuck for the linguistic aspect of philosophy.

The Nietzscheans have been declining for some time. There was a period when they were idolized, on this forum, their every word accepted. They did a decent job asserting the ridiculousness of christian sexual taboos. I admit it.

But their philosophy comes at a high cost. In order to accept their beliefs, a man has to become a failure, or a homosexual. Failure, as Nietzscheans aren’t exactly compatible with civilized life… they are akin to the plague, bring disease and stupidity, undermine and twart one another. Get confused in their priorities in thinking fingerprinting makes them great, and not holding the line of the inevitable plunge into darkness and regression their beliefs bring. We would soon devolve to the status of apes without toolmaking abilities if they had their way.

But it seems nature has a trigger to prevent this. Nature turns society into transexuals… not merely gays, who could change their minds and force themselves to breed like the Nietzschean Yukio Mishima… but to rid themselves completely of this chance to breed.

I suppose this is inevitable, Nietzsche took so much from Lucian of Samosata. I’m not the first to notice this.

So as time goes by, as the Nietzscheans enter into their inevitable twilight… they are already declining here, and lack the international pull they once had, we have to come to term with their consequence.

We may lose a substantial portion of a near generation soon if the effects of their preachings aren’t successfully broken down and countered.

Look how many people on this forum sign up in their wake, who gave harmed their reproductive systems, or thought about it, or live in disgust of it?

I honestly don’t know what to do. To me, as a Catholic (largely secular, I’ve never forced it on anyone) the church is a continuum that exists as long as man exists. Philosophies come and go. I’m one of a million philosophers, my beliefs left on a archive, long with countless other men… shuffled and categorized however the need of an era arises.

Transexuals are not a part of that continuum. Despite being obviously sexual, they are celibate in a sense… unable to reproduce. They put sexual fetishism above the community, and pervert humanity as a result. They are a non continuity. Catholic monastics are celibate, yet deeply rooted to the preservation of the community.

In a sense, a transvestite is death to me. I don’t know how to handle it. I can well handle the fears of a elderly dying man, as it is natural, and he has provided for the community… hopefully in offspring or positive side effect.

I don’t know what to do with these people. They live in a disturbed celebration of death.

Yet… my duty and outlook makes me a philosopher of any time, any era. I shouldn’t turn back or away. I just can’t begin to know what to do with them. I saw them living a terrible dichotomy in San Francisco, hated by the gays. I never cared to gate them… fuck, if you ever need directions, ask them, they get so excited that they are being normal, they give great directions, very enthusiastic.

My younger brother for a time after we stopped talking (family split up) became a cross dresser. I don’t know why, he was into some weird ass transvaluation of values culture where he moved to. I recently was told he broke out of it, joined a church (non-catholic), and saw a picture of him holding a child, his child. Assuming the child lives, he becomes potentially a part of that continuum. Had he gone through it, snip snip… no child. Suicide most likely. I almost lost a family member due to the Nietzscheans, and their demented outlook, but gained a nephew from the church.

I still don’t know how to dwsl with the Nietzscheans impulse to death. They are slowly going away. But I fear the repercussions of their mayhem will stay with us for some time. For me, its a simple desire not to turn the world into the triangle of death in Iraq. For the Nietzscheans… they all have deep sexual disorders… I showed that in my “The Truth About the Nietzscheans” thread, going through all the major, well known thinkers around the world.

This deep impulse they have to die is going to remain, long after their identity as Nietzscheans fade. What is a philosophy without a link to life and its continuance? The expansion of knowledge and the exploration of the unknown horizons that lay before us. Humans aren’t going to become a species of asexual fishes. There us no future in this. I don’t know how to handle the coming wave, a desire to die… the underlining impulse of every discontent and self disgusted Nietzschean out there.

What is there to say to a person who removed their sex organs and indulge in orgies at the expense of society? I am left at a impasse.

The Transexual is the Nietzschean Overman. The Nietzscheans seem to sense it, and collectively fight against their emerging consciousness within themselves. You see it in their lists here. Is it my place, as a Christian and a Philosopher, to turn my back completely on Nietzsche’s child once that final cut of separation has been achieved? Am I to tell them they are alienated, without future, all because some syphalitic Prussian in the 19th century opened Pandora’s box?

I don’t feel joy or pride for them. I feel sorrow, and worry. I don’t know what to say. I’m at a current lost. I know most commit suicide eventually.

A problem I don’t know how to begin to confront, much less understand. Life must go on. How to say this honestly, and not see the contradiction so evident in another sect who revel in debauchery and self violence, sterility and death?

Yes, with his new timemachine, to be sold as an app on an Iphone near you.

Why do you blame wars on Nietzsche?

I hardly blame him as the cause, but he half assed the exposition of several feedback loops present in conjunction to the xNTJ feedback loop in the right hemisphere… we produced a century century plus of idiot savants only partially aware of the possibilities inherent in our natural range.

Take me, I’m a INTJ… if you reduce me down, dephilosophize me essentially from my insights and experiences, you’ll get one of the inventor salesmen from a soldier of fortune magazine in pocketed cargo pants, with the nifty new rifled carbine he designed, and even his new boots, and new adaptable armor design added to tanks or humvees, or repelling gear, or rubber special forces raft that could be shot up and not sunk. I could quote Clausewitz and Sun Tzu, or quote endlessly historical books on battles and war. I’d be prone to depression, and also flights of fancy, etc. Very high IQ marks.

At root, there is a type of INTJ out there who does this naturally. We don’t need to be taught it. I’ve encountered a few in their teenage years doing just that. Long distance runners to the last to boot. Its built into our DNA, neither race nor heredity seems to encourage or discourage where we pop up. Very sparse across society by default… you really can’t have too many of us in a given population… a few obviously give a tactical and technological boost to society, but too many, endless warfare, of a increasingly disturbing nature. You really don’t have any clue just how quickly my mind moves in this arena, or what I can build to kill you out of literally nothing. Its not nurture, its all nature.

But we are always more than this. We at a early age start gobbling up other aspects of the mind, treating the exploration and domination of the mind in much the same way we approach technology. There is a reason why we consistently are the most aggressively intelligent personality type out there. Our feedback loop lands in the SMAs of the mind, we often lateralize consciously very early on. Very young… no one, for example, had to teach Beethoven how to write a symphony. He learned it by organizing the data across several areas of the brain.

This can be a messy and erratic process at times as well. We can be a mess. The basic idea of INTJ/ENTJ fades away as our complex grows. When we hit depressions however, we climb back out via it. Take Steve Jobs comeback, he rebuilt his life via the iPhone. Got messy prior to it, died from messy beliefs after it.

I know better than anyone here, via primary texts, the western and eastern canon of warfare… the actual strategic works historically developed, as well as near modern. I follow international news on warfare very closely. I scoure Google maps on satellite, research history, scrutinize vehicles down to minutia, dive down to the deepest depths of psychology not just tactically, but also in intentions, awareness of motivations, just war theory parameters overlaid over behaviorism to see the cause and effect cycle, carefully examine the monoamine cascade in thought that causes triggers of impulse and inhibition, etc.

I find the Nietzschean… such as Sauwelios, conception of Wotan infantile and disturbing in the extreme. A lame ass pagan war god, that the Germans barely understood. Most of their campaigns against the Romans failed, they barely built a society past the Motte and Bailey, were alchohics to the last man, and got their ass whooped by every nomadic group pushing out of the steepe 3rd century on. It was always a weak concept steeped in ignorance and confusion, and lead to broken wars. Compare this to say, Zhuge Liang, the Chinese wargod… but a actual general and strategical theorist, he practically built Shu Han up from scratch after the main Han Dynasty collapsed… you see much more realistically what we are capable of, for better or worst. He had a awareness of mind, but he didn’t question the central tenant of his beliefs, or the righteousness of the Confucian imperial value system of following a righteous leader. Millions upon millions died, for literally nothing. None of the factions who fought in the wars of that period won, every dynasty lost.

There are other aspects inherent in ethics and our sense of self we never quite digested until late. Scattered awareness across time, but largely incongruent. We are not very good for society unless we can be all we can be.

In Nietzsche’s diseased case, his mortality loomed, and his mind was mucked. He confused delusions of grandure and serotonin highs as the metaphysical concept of power. He thought it resulted in health, survival, etc. He implanted his confused fears cultically over lesser thinkers. Most philosophers are INTPs… a much less aggressive and less intelligent personality type, yet largely compatible. They do a lot to modulate our more extreme aspects, being a middle of the road crowd. Petite bourgeoise written all over them, specialized trades, but never amount to much in and of themselves. Make good secretaries to INTJs. Watson to Sherlock. Most “philosophers” fall in this catrgory unfortunately, as philosophy is a safe specialized academic trade. Notice most “Nietzscheans” break this rule of Nietzsche to avoid and upend the academics? Its not ideological, its built into INTJs learning style. Were not a sluggardly group think personality. We can group lead as ENTJs, but its usually not worthwhile… as your leading a bunch of idiots when it comes to pure philosophy.

Nietzsche hardly invented war, but he picked a scapegoat, Christianity, as the epigenetic cause of his disease, and logically deduced if it is bad, everything opposed to it historically is good, and emphasized the late scatterings of his intellect and understandings upon this quest. It obviously backfired… even a bad xNTJ research, if sufficiently lateralized across the brain, activates enough triggers across the mind of a non-xNTJ thinker to come off as logical and complete, worthy of a ology slapped to it, look at Marxism for example. Its all over the place, takes a swamp of the brain to compute, but hard to interconnect all together, and whenever two people do so, it never comes out the same and they gotta kill each other off academically and socially, and sometimes factionally via military action. Same phenomena with Nietzscheans. A rather lopsided and incomplete theory.

So in Iraq, prior to knowing shit about Nietzsche… I’m already exposed to a rather absurd, shit headed war that has been going on like a festering wound upon the human race for over a thousand years, and was very well educated already in psychology and warfare. I paid attention, sucked a lot of it up. I declared myself dedicated to philosophy in that condition, and sought to understand it, to overcome it and move beyond it… these are the internal motivation that my type grows by, it is the most noble and purpose driven trait we have, to expand and understand ourselves and society at the same time.

I meet guess who shortly after getting back to the states? Cezar and Sauwelios… dragging the remains of a dead rotten corpse of a failed predecessor of mine behind their chariot of ignorance as if they were conquering heroes.

I hardly blame Nietzsche for being the cause, he isn’t the original cause, had he never existed we would still fight. I blame myself, as Sartre egotistically blamed himself, but unlike Sartre I’m much better positioned. I’m a far better historian, psychologist, and philosophy.

I blame the continuation of the cult of Nietzsche on the most backwards and unworthy of idiot followers playing with fragments of the mind broken from their main personality, never able to properly integrate or mature in their understandings. You don’t change your personality as in the hermetic golden dawn, taking chemicals for a fly bye freak effect. It takes months to naturally awaken aspects, to force a ripping and bewildering awareness of cognitive change, the growth and realization there is something more to ourselves. It has to be done carefully, fully, integrating. Not broken in ripped pagen totem attributes poorly able to integrate and cooperate outside of assumption and ritual.

They made a whole lot of shit about nothing. Every society that has sported xNTJ thinkers already have a literature for growth. A social renaissance was a chimera of effect mistaken for cause, the great men already existed. The effect in blood as a motivator is questionable at best, as the Medici expansion of knowledge was in peace as propaganda, not the direct act of war. If you want trinkets, oil paintings, well, I can give that to you. But the barbaric and assinine pursuit of late bronze age warfare, poorly understood and demented, limited to bad commentaries and pathetically restricted libraries, I can’t tolerate. The Nietzscheans advocate what is backwards, harmful and demeaning.

Notice I’ve never attacked them for their paganism, or emphasis on art. Stupid, but minor. I’ve hit him up plenty of times for plagerism, and shoody research. I’ve calmed down after reading his last work “My Sister and I” and better understood his integration of his pagan outlook to his family and sexuality. I don’t hold it against him.

What I do hold against him is a long line of Nietzschean who have as infants in thought, regressed their society to coups and retarded intrigue, made light of the acts of war, excused the brutality (Foucault excusing terrorism comes to mind as a means of expression, weigh this logic against his voluntarily and knowingly spreading AIDS in San Francisco to force the discovery of a cure).

It becomes sickening to me. Some if the people, severely deformed children in Iraq undoubtedly died. I see children here receive surgery or therapy and live. Were more careful of our bloodlines (Saudi Arabia is more aware of this inbreeding threat now, suffer heavily from accidental inbreeding, everyone gets genetic compatibility tests there now)… end result of Emperor Augustus’ marriage laws that Christianity adapted. We have safe water, they live in hovels and filth. For what? So some local shiekh can parallel Nietzsche’s teaching (parallel, not cause and effect here).

I’m glad to see the Nietzscheans lose their influence. I’ll trust in the dialectic that philosophers will slowly migrate away, each generation. But the threat of engulfing hell looms high, and in unexpected patterns.

Its only very late, after I did my research on the biographies of the major Nietzscheans did I notice those extreme paraphilia traits. My slow engulfing of ancient works from around the world gave exposed me to many of Nietzsche’s sources, like Lucian I noted above… Dea Syria. The cult of tranny priests and prostitute goddesses, sado-maschoism. I pushed it back farther in history, found the Babylonians originated it. Lies at the heart of Orphic Cosmogy. Exported to China, had a Hugh effect on the development of Vices and Virtues.

The ancient world had already confronted Nietzsche in the form of Sardanapullas and King Zhou. He was far more that the Borgias crowned Pope and Emperor, like a naughty Dionysian, but the next logical bacchean stepvof unleashed, wild and confused sexual energy, Hermaphroditus- one and the same as Dionysius

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus

As the Nietzscheans are progressively stripped by the progress of philosophy to understand the emotions, the motivations of war, of thevroot causes of invention, they will be progressively turned away from Wotan, or water colors make you a heroic inventor, or slapping up a art mural in a poverty stricken neighborhood does diddly fucking squat to improve anyone’s lives. They are the most schizophrenic, scattered brain bunch out there, making far flung ludicrise connections. As the actual mechanisms are progressively understood, they will lose more and more ground.

The last logical refuge of the Nietzschean is in his historical transexuslism. To bow to priapus, and to eventually castrate it for its opposite, to become a obscene, living Linga Stone, a merger of opposites that vandalizes the body of its natural reproductive power, where the metaphysical belief of a will to power becomes neurotic sexual fetism, of the Sado-Masocist genre. An orgy without reproduction, of society in decline and limiting aims… where the highest aspirations of a artist is to castrate oneself and become a voyeur of life, exiled from it.

In purely Darwinian terms, is this sound? Wise? How does this benefit the species, to see people emulating the throws of thought long ago suppressed by ancient Confucian and Legalist scholars in China, by Stoic and Peripatetic philosophers in Alexandria and Rome? We had done away with it for good reason, large societies could not progress, the enlightenment of knowledge held check by it, defence weakened… the impulse to orgy and debauchery drew the starving masses in times of famine into a determined frenzy to squash out and suppress this. It is literally written in our history books. It is the cornerstone of our global civilization.

If these effects are to multiply… as the Nietzscheans continue to fade, but continue to influence, falling back retrograde to the sexual confusion before the end, we maybfind the final summa theologica of the Nietzscheans… in their fanatical desire to repress their growing feminization in themselves by persecuting it in others, accepting it, incorporating all their revolutionary idealism expressed from the 19th century till that period.

Guys like Phred the Fuckhead periphially influenced by random contemporary works, already considering a sex change, would be increasingly tipped towards it by the rationalizations of these final dionysians turned hermaphroditians.

How much of a generation or two can we loose? How many families will die off in a era when couples only have one child, and that child castrates themself? When even small rural small towns have this noticeable counter culture?

What is the role of a philosopher in the face of this, beyond cautionary warnings to confused youth high on the desired hermaphrodite overman?

These philosophers would be talking to the very face of death. What do you say to death, to a living, breathing death? Extinction? One torn asunder from survival and continuation? A parasite that doesn’t apparently contribute meaningfully. I hope a few would become doctors or nurses, cure a disease, a social worker… but realistically the vast majority won’t. Only take, and influence others to wound themselves. To molest the young as they are powerful… To do the things they’ve come to convince themselves they must do.

The Nietzscheans are a cautionary cancer, a lesson to be learned. But how do we incorporate these living, breathing avatars of death into the greater story of philosophy I don’t know. Emotions, existential awareness… it won’t matter as much. Such things are for survival. They are neutered house cats. You can love them as family, but don’t positively influence the survival of the bloodlines of stray cats. What happens to a indoor neutered cat isn’t much of a concern to a feral ally cat in the scope of its history.

I don’t wish to alienate or become cruel to such people, I’m a Christian, and its not very christian. We hadvto ostrichize Origen, one of our greatest philosophers, for this very act. Its something we refuse for our priesthood and monastics. It created a good tension of denying temptation. Created some positive feedback loops to our civilizations’ intellectual growth. Gave rise to the master monastic scholar, which gave rise to the university professor (a shadow of the former). A tranny has no real reason to live anymore. No tension. Only suicide or accidental death awaits them. Not many make it to old age, as wisdom creeps upon them, and they realize what that have done.

What is the role of a philosopher in this approaching age? In the twilight, and eventual complete passing of the Nietzscheans, failed philosophers to the last?

I am a INTJ woman.

This means I don’t take advice from others or agree with others for the sake of peace and the last thing I am is submissive.

Don’t argue with me, just give me solid evidence :slight_smile:

Since INTJ women typically are strong individuals who are organised, value rationale over the emotional and highly independant, think logically and don’t like highly charged displays of emotion it only follows that they will not like to be involved someone perceived as weaker or less rational than herself. Interest can wane quickly after a good dose of a teary man. Respect once lost is hard to get back.

What’s INTJ ?

There are obviously subtypes within us, hence why I eludicated that subtypes of INTJ Male who is a natural in the weapons industry. I found a couple of them in the Rangers A Team, and INTJs usually don’t do good enlisted in the infantry… they had to claw up to literally the highest position possible (not in hierarchy as in rank, but type of status and access to weaponry) and you could see how they geeked out in there, influenced their informal dress and everything (they didn’t have to wear uniforms, dress cloths, collared shirts).

INTJs do intact have a incredible emotional reservoir, but we are also incredibly restrictive and uptight too. Its due to our proness to depression and unwillingness to lose control. But we have absolutely the best imagination, period. It takes time to mature enough to integrate this into us, and we can collapse out of it. Our imagination is where a considerable bulk of our emotions come from. Its a aspect of the mind native and central to another stable personality type (close to Magsj on this forum), but we can use it better than they can. Unfortunately it comes at a cost, we build upon their exchange of abstract theory and direct, observed sensory and emotional response… which they create into “style” and “culture”, into a erotomachia… schemas and personifications of the other imposed upon (and built out of) the other. Takes time to synchronize.

Its a sore spot among many psychologist and a few feminist is the INTJ tends to be very sexually inventive as well. Its not that the sexual impulse originates in us, but the psychology is the most varied and intense. But emphasis on varied, its more than the submissive-dom category, and its never absolute… and we sure the hell don’t need instruction or philosophies to explain any given aspect of our paraphilia. Its the end result of being able to expand and root over such a wide area of the mind, including inhibiting and exploiting the basal ganglia, while not being rooted persay in it. Were more based in the right hemisphere initially.

So yes, a INTJ could be detached emotional, and we can be sharply inhibited by a emotional outbreak. I don’t like arguments with girlfriends or family for example. won’t tolerate it. But as we mature, we expand across the mind, come into contact with our emotions, and grow. Learn to cry, to grieve, to be human. But I suppose some never do. One thing we never lose the capacity for is depression. Its just our luck in the part of the brain were rooted in. I can go most days without it, but it is very easy to return. Anger is something I had trouble controlling for years, still do at times. Its largely impulsive and unconscious. Tamed to a degree. Think of Spock or the Vulcan analogue… Highly logical, yet a hotbed of emotions under it all, more intense than more. INTJ’s are every every psychologist favorite lab rats in surveys, as we can sit and talk, absord the scope of the study, and adjust our responses to give the researcher insights into concepts they barely understand themselves, and practically write their paper for them in the process. Lots of research, not all flattering. Its reassuring knowing however much of it is based in other personalities, were the nucleas in the cell… centralized and manipulating it all, but not necessarily the native source of it. Other types are to blame, we merely blend it and link it up to larger systems.

Back on that talking to death… I can’t find the documentary in particular, but on YouTube there are a lot of documentaries on
Santa Meurte… a cult of Mexican transvestites and drug traffickers worshipping skeletons dressed as women. Its a religion built around drug users, pimps, pedophiles, and heavily around crossdressers. It was creepy as fuck seeing in New York City, in a dance hall with tables, families (everyone tattooed) sitting, watching a tranny dance and sing in a red dress to death, a skeleton in a red dress. Heavy drug use in that “community”. A fast degenerating community. It predates Nietzsche, but parallels Dionysian beliefs exactly, and they share many of the characteristics that Cezar (historyboy) preaches in his threads, of becoming disgusted in life and coming together for a change…

it involves ripping their dicks off and worshipping death, which is close to the Greek ideal Nietzsche selected. As philosophy expands, and we systematically eliminate the validity of all of Nietzsche’s ideas, they will become more convoluted and dogmatic, and will increasingly retreat here. For now, it hurts their pride, but the major Nietzscheans on this site seem to be fighting and struggling against it, their own demons. In a generation or two, there will be little point to covering this up. Santa Meurte will have them all.

What is the dialogue of philosophers of the living community to that of death? Do Immanuel Kant’s Categorical Imperatives still apply? Its obvious a series of very complex disorders underline this… but at what point do we say no… no, you can’t be teachers of the youth and teach our children the virtues of reproductive mutilation and criminal endeavors, to fill your veins with drugs? Lines between a rational society and a irrational one needs to be drawn… but our hocus pocus in wishing away sexual disorders in psychology to appease special interest groups isn’t going to help us one bit.

I can’t say I have much faith in gay cures to stop this, as many fays don’t do this crap, and shocking people’s nipples or foreskin is rather banal. Can’t say there isn’t a method out there, research shouldn’t be prohibited, but at the same time needs to be thought out and intelligent, within medical ethics.

But once the act is done, its done. Gay cures, even if wildly successful in prohibiting this, can’t change a sex change operation where the ovaries or testicles are violently tossed away in disgust.

This is the direction Nietzschean philosophy is evolving. I don’t know how the philosophers or the living can absorb that of the dying… Hence Immanual Kant’s Categorical Imperatives. How different are they from, say… hypothetical computer AIs, or Aliens like on Startrek in friendly communication that we can’t possibly breed with, or Angels?

We never had to, at least in modern times, actually put that theory to the test. We did quite badly at times when we decided some kinds of humans were not human, with genocide following. Sometimes we genocide while acknowledging their humanity.

There is something fundamentally wrong with a hardcore Nietzschean… not your artists hanging on the periphial, playing along… the hard core groups… they find this death impulse and cling to it. I remember Peder/Filmsnob not being able to grasp the Christians reaction, linking it to giving up on life. We instinctively know its a death drive. We want nothing to do with it. We live in a more modern and intelligent era. Its not my desire to kill them… but they are obviously heavily ostracized. I just am really stumped on how they are to be incorporated into the outlook. Its dangerous, such as making Hari Kari obligatory. Watch the Taiwanese movie Seediq Bale… Japanese encountered a society who were more sincere in the sacrificial warrior death and it seriously fucked them up. Its the bloodiest and most intense movie ever. Even the Japanese who emphasized Kamakazee outlooks couldn’t swallow this insane extreme. One of the most expensive movies ever made too. Serious decapitation going on, mothers hanging their children’s to death in nooses voluntarily, true story. What the Japanese werevdoing was wrong, but like, seriously… this entire race nearly wiped itself out in shitheaded retaliation… they wanted to die. I wouldn’t have them teach a course in hospice ethics for example… fuck me. How do you talk to death?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3L_PNQgQ49w

Oh, sorry Lev… The J is judgement, T is thinking. You showed a xxTJ tendency in the Flatland thread, in coming to a strong logical judgment that it was bullcrap. I responded along a NTJ axis that you were a shithead, pointing out intuitively the underlining variabilities inherent in the axiomatic structure, and pointed out even Victorian schoolboys could grasp what was being done, and provided you with a basic theory from scratch xNTx as to how many theories are based in paradox, despite being logical, due to the inherent restraints of logic being expressed on abstractions based on rules in chains.

You didn’t grasp this, a failure in intuition xNxx, and insisted to prove yourself extrovertedly to everyone ESxx, and find a group consensus to your judgement while being right ESTJ.

Doesn’t mean your a ESTJ, just you exhibited those characteristics at that time, and as a Gay Fish, just couldn’t fucking get it.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z26xPS8fYdE

Most people are personality wise based outvof a specific brain region of the mind, its why we can say “opposites attack” and give it credence. There are 16 cranial nerves in the brain, and they set up feedback loops in the overall architecture of the brain, oftentimes producing conscious subconscious feedback loops in our behaviorism.

You… oh so cuddily you, occupy the left prefrontal fecal maximus in the brain. Everyone at times occupy this aspect in their thought, its hardwired into everyone’s brain. Just most of your conscious thought is located here. Its gonna effect your learned behaviors in how you tackle information, your basic patterning to likes and dislikes (not specifics, like you like pizza at Strada, just your more prone to having such a miscellaneous preference in stylish food or notvin social settings, its elitism, over say Pizza Express, which is owned by the same people and use similar base ingredients.

They built their business around exploiting these type trends.

You can express basic MBTI coding other waysm sometimes I do it via brain region and cranial nerves directly. MBTI is useful as it subdivides 16 cranial nerves into juxtapositioning subtypes that corresponds to actual neurology in the brain. This being said, I wouldn’t claim someone running amock with a basic understanding of MBTI as a valid psychologist. I learned several dozen systems in over a decade of study, and I’d be hesitant to say with certainty this or that is a invalid medical diagnosis, though I’d be in a fairly good position to judge and conversevwith a medical psychologist. As I’m more interested in philosophy than becoming a doctor, I don’t need to exclusively nose dive in pharmecuticals and a million pages of medical journals, I can pick and choose my subjects. For example, I bite my nails, and have absolutely no fucking intention of cracking to code on that one. Has shit to do with figuring out why men are motivated to war. Mightvbevminute parallels, but I could simply give a fuck. A clinical psychologist would want to know about nail biting as a occurance in X number of psychological disorders for say, someone prone to infidelity or bedvwetting. They could give a damn about the metaphysics of violence. So MBTI works as a good shorthand for me, but not for them when prescribing treatments to a nursing staff or pharmacist.

Hence why you find MBTI on forums, but not in Harvard Medical. But Harvard Medical would be the first to point out its hardly a bad system for what it aims for, hence its high success rate. It can’t calculate, say, personalities with schizophrenia. But its not supposed to either.

After reading the above, I should have kept my mouth closed.

Are you for real Turd Ferguson, so much bull shit.

The medial prefrontal cortex prMFC. Your exact state of mind in that reply originate there, if you ever wanted to know the mental state to the actual region of the brain. Would light up in a fMRI right there with this reaction.

Your looking for consistency in me and are correcting for errors from above, the method your trying to correct what you consider to be errors at in arMFC in oarticular, which is your underlining understanding of who you are, and your now stretched understanding of who I am, and your regret is from oMFC… we can condition a response via rewards and punishments (beat ourselves down intellectually of have a yeah me moment). We can go so far as to literally rip out our underling sense of self, and forceably change ourselves if we find ourselves too distasteful… James Bond is modeled off of INTJs and its a major characteristic of the current one. He lied about his emotions to money penny, even faked his death and became a beach bum hiding in other women.

There mutually supporting aspects that underline a crucial aspect of INTJs. Everyone has it, but we exhibit it the most. Not every single last one, say your reclusive labrat scientist might be insulated enough never to open up.

Pick a aspect of the above from my description of INTJs, and ask me to source the behavior via a theorist or papers. The compatibility of what you perceive to be truths and what you perceive yourself capable of is rooted in the anterior cingulate, which us a part of this overall system. Its why your going “oh shit, why did I get involved in this”. That literally controls it. Its rooted in our type.

Oh… the embarrassment runs deep, as I have a pretty solid understanding of all the paraphilia of our type… thankfuily no single INTJ does it all. If its any consolation, I myself was informed of this but a whole damn group of lame ass INTPs years back from the University of Ontario (cough why I gate Canadians… Cough cough). This lab rat had some red face moments, but I also had the last laugh as they got confused on several of the findings, as INTPs can indulge in our thought, but hardly control it and couldn’t understand some of the underlining mechanisms intuitively, or his they worked.

Yes, INTJs are highly complex sexually. But were also inhibitory… we control it too. We also have a hyperfocus that controls the dopamine flow in the brain that uses acetylcholine… its how your able to be hyper focused and rule anyone out, including likely me. Its okay, been there myself, I’ll be around once you get over the contradictions to your own self image, and you request research papers.

So yeah… am I full of shit? Absolutely. But not related to any of the facts related above. My name is Turd Ferguson, shit is in my name… but its a useful persona on a website full of Nietzscheans where no one can tell the truth.

The above scheme within this post (hardly the whole thread) comes from a theorist called Lorin Friesen, who is not a INTJ. He has 30+ years work in the subject. I threatened to kidney punch his brother (which too is verifiable) and called him boring, and nitpicked various aspects of his theory over the years (hence the threat to his brother who was making stuff up).

Honestly, call me on stuff. “How does that relate to INTJs” or other types for that matter. I got the dirt on everybody. Of course I checked all that stuff out once I discovered it was possible to know it consistently. Sexology does have a increasingly firm basis in neurology.

As to just the run of the mill disturbing autobiography of highly disturbing traits… that’s due to a complex that isn’t exclusively INTJ, its more processing of several brain regions, and we do it intentionally… not inhibiting the functions. The categories might change, and depending on the lateralization (is he active in the left or right Supplimentry Motor Area predominately? Zizek is left, I am right dominate, despite us both lateralizing near equally… he can write a better paper grammatically, but wouldn’t trust him land navigating with a compass in the Yugoslav army over me).

You can see our natural style of bullshit in any of his 500 video posts he makes in excrutionating detail, down to pooping or divorce. Fuck, our sense of humor is almost identical at times too… I took pictures of me posing with toilets in Alaska, and posted it on the net, and one of the internet celebrities on stumbleupon saw it, and said I must be a big fan of Zizek, and I said who… so any of you who knew me for years and wanted to know why I went from toilet pics to a cat on my head (it pissed of Cezar) that’s why. We like to poop like Montaigne. I dunno. His theories mostly suck cause he never actually says anything of intellectual value. I don’t think he is a actual Marxist or Stalinist anymore. There are a few like that. Salvidore Dali was another. I’ve tried to avoid the over the top aspects in self deficating humor, and staying focused on pure subject matter as my alter ego.

It exists in you. Your hard wired for it, same way a carnivore exists in every wild meat eater. You can try to deny it, but it is deginayely there, short of brain trauma or being mistyped.

Good news is, though we have the largest range and awareness of paraphilia, its not rooted in our core personality, and we can expunge it via the above mention medial prefrontal cortex by forcing it away. Other types can’t. They start it, and can’t stop it. INTPs are the worst, they think they can completely control it when they indulge in it, or avoid it, but it surfaces in them in nasty social ways. Its so damn odd, so graceful socially yet complete idiots intimately in close social relations when it really matters, sexual and non-sexual. Sometimes you just gotta break contact with them, it becomes a confusing game of abstracts and concretes.

I note this given how many INTPs, who follow Nietzsche cause they heard of him in philosophy 101 and read this over the years, will react to this thread. Feel free to Google any aspect for psychology papers underlining it, I’m hardly the originator. Some of these studies have decades of reinforcing papers.

What doesn’t have thousands of trustworthy reinforcing neuropsychology papers are theories about death impulses, like Marcuse. I tend to be more tolerant due to his work during WW2 than I otherwise would be to a similar philosopher, he undoubtedly felf regret during Vietnam for half inventing the CIA. But his theory of Eros and Thanatos doesn’t have much cognitive merit here. A tad bit of overlap, but it hardly explains some of the groups I’ve mentioned above, or guys like Satyr and his satire “The Lollipop King”, which of course is… a satire of his own fears of his self. Marcuse rather sucked at underlining the underlining mechanisms enough that I can trace it in the mind, or find studies that do… or explain how some people seemingly don’t fall under this polarity at all, some both ends, others one sided. It doesn’t much natch up with actual phenomena I can observe.

So sorry I embarrassed you, but we are a very heavily studied type. A lot of psychological theories infact hinge on us, because of our ability to coordinate behaviors present in other psychological types, our type is put foreword as the final example that links the dots. Yes, we have a deeply boring basic type to us isolated in the right hemisphere, but most INTJs rapidly break out at a very early are. Such a primitive type couldn’t sit down and appreciate the works of BuckMinister Fuller for example, or write legible, or talk much. We would be moppie and robotic all the time, like the robot from Bicentinnial Man. He designed clocks in the rough from raw materials, like I can with weapons. Frontal Eye Fields, gotta love it (how we do that).

Contact me in a few weeks once you get over the horror of expisure and rejection if me as a reflection upon you. Remember… we don’t control our anger to well, so slam and blast me softly till then. You’ll come around, introspection and the search for truthfulness is in our nature, and you’ll catch yourself noticing things that uncomfortably correlates. Same happened here with me. Really sucks discovering your not unique, or as special as you thought you were, and that there are a slew of people throughout history just like you.
I can try to sell you crap from RadioShack to improve your INTJ acceptance of me in the meantime, nailing product details across spectrum and answering technical support questions. “Young man, which computer should I buy”. Fuck, I don’t even work there and people know to ask me. I try to avoid electronic departments in stores for this reason. They see it in my face, and bumb rush me.

wot, dr

tl, dr

Ever find who stole your hot dog?

Many of us initially read Ecmandu with utter incredulity, believing he must be faking the funk to get attention. His persistence, however, seems to have convinced many (including me) that he probably is either a babbling fool or a nutcase. I’d say it’s probably a hearty mixture of both.

Turd Ferguson wrote:

True :laughing:

Do you have post traumatic stress?

There are plenty of dating sites for all tastes on the internet, so I think you should do your search on one of those rather than a philosophy forum, and good luck.

ILP Legend, perhaps I am suffering from transparency illusion. I believed that what I intended to convey was crystal clear to others, obviously not, or

perhaps your perception is clouded by your own experiences, which contributed to your deliberate distortion of what I wrote, in response to TF.

You are suffering from stupidity, the ‘ILP Legend’ is replying to the OP, not you.

Astrology for smart people. Sartre once said we all want to believe we have an essence, so we choose freely the project of acting out the roles and characteristics that we believe define us. The Ferg has messed around with the personality types and wants to believe he fits nicely into the straight-jacketed definition of INTJ. Now if you made another one up, say a FGTH (pick whatever words you want for that) and presented it to Ferg, he would choose to believe it if he liked it. This belief would be in bad-faith, and his radical freedom to define himself would be compromised. He would begin acting like he thought he should act if he were a FGTH. If he didn’t like the personality type FGTH, he wouldn’t accept it, and would call it all pseudo-science.