Humans environmental diaster??

[Cyrene]

Humans are an environmental diaster, we’re also the only species that are just on the verge of understanding how to avert meteors, and in the future, comets.

The amount of devestation wrought by a tiny tiny tiny version of either is enough to wipe out many species on earth, a moderate sized one, perhaps all of them. Leaving behind such a diaster as to prevent life from coming back for quite some time. (though its happened before and life has sprung back)

So really, its going to be a long long long long time before humans can cause that kind of damage and its inevitable for another one to hit us eventually (ones big enough to wipe out cities hit quite often, once every 100years or so)

So, are we really any better than the alternatives?

[Joker]

@Cyrene

Humans are an environmental diaster, we’re also the only species that are just on the verge of understanding how to avert meteors, and in the future, comets.

The amount of devestation wrought by a tiny tiny tiny version of either is enough to wipe out many species on earth, a moderate sized one, perhaps all of them. Leaving behind such a diaster as to prevent life from coming back for quite some time. (though its happened before and life has sprung back)

So really, its going to be a long long long long time before humans can cause that kind of damage and its inevitable for another one to hit us eventually (ones big enough to wipe out cities hit quite often, once every 100years or so)

So, are we really any better than the alternatives?

Your beloved humanism is the conditioner of man made disasters.

Seek your attention there.

[Cyrene]

Your beloved humanism is the conditioner of man made disasters.

Seek your attention there

And man made calamities do not create the type of environmental damage/species damage that a strike would, and we can’t, and won’t be able to for a long time.

So address the point./

[Joker]

@Cyrene

Your beloved humanism is the conditioner of man made disasters.

Seek your attention there

And man made calamities do not create the type of environmental damage/species damage that a strike would, and we can’t, and won’t be able to for a long time.

So address the point./

What do you mean by strike?

[realunoriginal]

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[Joker]

If the earth gets hit by a meteor I personally won’t lose any sleep over it.

( J/k)

( Because I will already be dead.)

[Cyrene]

@realunoriginal

Cyrene,

How exactly does your statement that humans are an environmental disaster and meteors striking the Earth relate to each other? I don’t understand the point of this thread.

And as for meteors hitting the Earth, couldn’t we develop some way to track incoming meteors/comets from a long distance, then just send a small ship to the incoming object, plant a bomb on one side of it, and detonate it to divert the objects course, steering it away from Earth?

Heres my point:
a lot of people cry about humans being a massive ecological holocaust and that we’re destroying the environment and we should go extinct because of the cost of other species, or at least should halt or headlong rush into technological progress and go back to hunter/gatherer societies for these reasons.

My claim is yes, humans are a horrible environmental destroyer, but, not nearly as much as natural events that are bound to happen again and again, natural events which eclipse our capability for planet destruction and will for a long time.

and humans are the only one so far that could potentially stop the holocaust from happening again and again.

Joker: As in comet strike or meteor strike.

[Pandora]

We are capable of acting on our intentions and of foresight, so we can hold each other accountable for our actions. We cannot do the same with nature.

No, we are not better than the alternatives because some things are not in our power, but if we can put the blame on someone, we will.

[Rhinoboy]

@Cyrene

Humans are an environmental diaster, we’re also the only species that are just on the verge of understanding how to avert meteors, and in the future, comets.

The amount of devestation wrought by a tiny tiny tiny version of either is enough to wipe out many species on earth, a moderate sized one, perhaps all of them. Leaving behind such a diaster as to prevent life from coming back for quite some time. (though its happened before and life has sprung back)

So really, its going to be a long long long long time before humans can cause that kind of damage and its inevitable for another one to hit us eventually (ones big enough to wipe out cities hit quite often, once every 100years or so)

So, are we really any better than the alternatives?

What your talking about is mass extinctiopn and your quite right it has happened in the past, however its highly unlikely that the surface damage of a meteor is going to wipe out all life. This is something that has never happened before. Humans may also be a tool of mass extinction. But as you have observed we have the ability to effect life on earth in a good or a bad way.

[Kriswest]

Perhaps the earth in protecting all life created man to save as much as possible from natural disasters. Mayhap the clues to this could be found in ancient texts on up to the newest studies. From Ark to space ship. From fire to atomic energy. From wheel to genetic manipulation and control. from bread to penicillian. Why only one sentient semiamphibious creature on such a vast amount of land and water? But, then again why only whiteblood cells? Would not a back up system be a sign of intelligence? Only a feral insinct creates one safety device. Intelligence creates redundancies. So perhaps there is a species waiting in the wings or water to pick up things if we fail, or not.

[Rhinoboy]

@Kriswest

Perhaps the earth in protecting all life created man to save as much as possible from natural disasters. Mayhap the clues to this could be found in ancient texts on up to the newest studies. From Ark to space ship. From fire to atomic energy. From wheel to genetic manipulation and control. from bread to penicillian. Why only one sentient semiamphibious creature on such a vast amount of land and water? But, then again why only whiteblood cells? Would not a back up system be a sign of intelligence? Only a feral insinct creates one safety device. Intelligence creates redundancies. So perhaps there is a species waiting in the wings or water to pick up things if we fail, or not.

Very romantic view, but then I always have been an old romantic. I like your thinking

[Liteninbolt]

Myopic tunnel vision from the U.S. industrialist has now transfered to 3rd world countries like Venezuela who has companies cutting down the rain forest for charcoal to run their pig iron furnaces. Yet the other countries aggravate the siutation along with the US wanting cheap materials like the pig iron. Though here we sit and complain about it the deforestation in South America. Capitalism has evolved.

[Knox]

If human activity destroys the ozone it’s an “environmental disaster.”

If a volcano destroys the ozone it’s a “natural process.”

The earth itself has made more species extinct that mankind ever will and it will continue to do so even if every human being died tomorrow.

Besides, isn’t human activity itself a “natural process?”