I propose an idea

-1 0 1

1= life (possible)
0= death
-1= Opposite of 1( Impossible) ‘realm of impossibility – death actually happens and is therefore not impossible to get to. -1 is impossible to get to/experience - perhaps only knowable by logic and reason.

That seems like a model I can relate to and understand, but why are you expressing them in terms of numbers??? I don’t see the point of that.

Your idea makes no sense. Rethink and reiterate.

I’m afraid I agree with Zeus…the idea is rather confusing. I’m not entirely sure what it is you’re trying to express.

Ok, I think I know where the confusion is. When i say ( -1 0 +1) - its all on a human scale - we are human, and our fate is human. So -1 does not represent whats impossible for god or some superintelligence. So, -1 is whats impossible for humans (ie. I cannot survive without breathing, I cannot make my body a functional spaceship, I cannot make a black hole with two pieces of chalk… on and on) all of those fall under impossibilities or -1. +1 is whats real and possible (staying alive, reading a book, driving a car… on and on) in other words, +1 is life, and -1 represents impossibilities of life. the possibility that nothing is impossible to god has nothing to do with our finite fate. Since death actually happens it is therefore not impossible. Therefore it does not fall under -1, even though life is 1, and the opposite of 1 is -1.

I love it.

If this were the case, wouldn’t it be more like…

+1- All things that are possible in life
0-Death
-1- All things that are not possible in life

‘death cannot be experienced’ thats what i would say. :slight_smile: oh i see thats not particularly relevant.

edit:

do you mean that -1 is all that we don’t experience when calculated after death. sure it is not possible to get to after death but are you reffering to an -1 element to our living existence that is never arrived at? this would be [in an extreme version] like i will never travel to mars.

surely its all variables that are known until we are dead and it can then be said that -1 exists.

whats the point though? where are you going with this.

Death ‘happens’ it is NOT experienced

hi cc

true. we may also say that change happens and thus death actually does not i.e. we are chemical, when we die we become earth ~ chemicals.

or mind is not chemicals, when we die mind continues, however even if this is the case [and in any case] death is still not experienced.

exactly!

-1 is impossible experience. so yes, after death you haven’t experienced it. yes, we will never arive at -1 as -1 is defined as impossible experiences.

-1 exists because there are things that are impossible for humans.

Did I answer you?

Interesting. I would say it is more of a bounded continuous scale, from 1 to -1, with neither boundary actually attainable. I don’t think anything is fully possible or impossible, just some things are much more impossible or possible than others. So -1 and 1 don’t exist, but are boundaries in between which everything (death included) can have meaning as being seemingly possible or impossible to some degree.

yes i agree there are things that are impossible for humans alive or after death.

and yes you did answer me ~ 1 0 -1 in this context is a valid formula. :slight_smile:

Ok then…well, I’m not sure where this gets us, but you have solidified the idea of “possible” and “impossible”

Are you saying that death is not the opposite of life?

Gib, the whole theory has little to do with death/life - but rather solidification of possible/impossible to humans. And, i made an obvervation that death is not impossible… its possible, but its not coming from a human transition. so it goes from ‘human possible/impossible’ to non-human possible. I called it 0. but I cannot prove that.

Why are you associating possibility, death, and impossibility with numbers?

Numbers don’t give them proper descriptions.

He’s not attempting to describe them in detail or anything, he’s just placing them on a scale.

He could have done -X x +X too and it would have been the same thing. He just used numbers to represent the three different areas.

I’m aware of this.

However the difference between +X and 1, or, x and 0 is very big based upon immediate conceptual impressions.