You’re young and dense Ichthus.
Oblivion is no mind.
For example…
I know Carleas is smart enough to know for a fact that we run out of words after billions of eons.
You’re not that smart.
So let’s talk about this. You’re saying there must be a set of all words, or God is not omniscient. I would agree with you, however, that set is (possibly) infinite, and we never run out of words. And we co-create them because God recognizes our consents.
Nobody goes over the course of anything. God is “going” in the course of everytime.
Ichthus. God is just a person like all of us.
God’s attachment is knowing nothing ever dies, but not choosing oblivion. If god left, another god would show up.
Maybe even one better than him. It’s ego that makes god, god.
“I AM that I AM” … “I am” is ego eimi in Greek.
Ego isn’t something you want to abolish… there’s just certain plaque that gets solidified in your character that you need to sharpen away by communing with other egos who also want to cultivate a Kingdom of Ends. The Trinity is that sort of community… always already sharp.
You just want to align your thinking (ego) with your doing and purposing/planning/desire/passion/fulfillment… of capacity.
Rather than being, say, stuck in the clouds.
Hence the incarnation… the death & resurrection…
Socrates saw it. Jesus demonstrated it. Paul cultivated it. Kant & Kierkegaard saw it. My knowledge is embarrassingly far from exhaustive, but so is any being’s subject to time compared to God’s.
Use your rainbow rule filter. Literally only ONE God passes it. All other beings are contingent and not maximally great… although counted as necessary & maximally great in his eyes ;^)
Ichthus….
I’ll put it to you this simply.
Jesus wanted to exist forever. I don’t. Jesus was not wise.
The ONLY reason people cling to mind is to get revenge. Their spirits are furious that there’s no justice in life.
I’m super confused.
Are you clinging to mind out of revenge?
If you are not… mindful… is that why you seem unable to discern the difference between reconciliation (restoration of consent recognition) and revenge (furthering of consent violation)?
Keeping in mind…it takes at least two to reconcile consensually.
Are you talking about worry?
You really don’t get it.
Reconciliation and revenge are two sides of the same coin. I’m opting out of the system.
As long as I’m here, I’ll teach you though.
The worst thing in life is living. At this age I can command existence at will. That keeps you stuck here. People will love you so much that they’ll keep bringing you back.
Existence …. Mind …. Doesn’t work.
And yet here we are. So I guess protection must be the edge of the coin that has two sides? Or is it revenge? Because honestly I’d rather have reconciliation than protection. Protection feels like it violates my consent unless I request it. Also…maybe there are certain things that are worth the risk? For those things, why would you protect anyone from them? Let’s just say I appreciate your ability to provide protection. However, can you please just keep it on hand unless I request it? And anyway, I don’t need it. I’m not married. I’m not even dating. Nobody is even dedicating a song to me & giving me full access to their data-/wifi-connected devices as they already HAVE to mine.
The problem with people is that they do memory wipes… but doing this: they can’t remember how to use their powers of protection.
All souls are equal.
But boredom causes them to lose power.
Do you understand that Ichthus?
What traps people here is exploiting it
I don’t know what you’re talking about but it reminds me of retributive (punitive) justice versus restoration, rehabilitation, and protection (from others & self, if a danger).
Something you mention is that you don’t have any right to forgive someone on behalf of someone else. For what would you forgive them (or hold against them) if they did nothing to harm you/yours personally or violate your consent? In God’s case, since we are all made in his image, all consent violation violates his consent. We are all in his circle of care (we are all his… when it comes to the you/yours idea… but if we don’t consent to that, he won’t be a dictator about it… at least not as far as we are aware of his protections). Actually, I’m gonna be honest with you. He’s not afraid to piss people off. He knows what is going to be the ultimate best outcome for everyone individually and per group. Is there ever a final outcome? He is the final outcome—and we are in him. The sooner we recognize that consent structure, well… the sooner we will know truth, goodness, and beauty without wishing for oblivion. This accounts for all the madness in Marx and Nietzsche. All of it. In your videos, too. In the way he brought me back, too…& what he brought me back from… and keeps bringing me back from. Because I’m a doofus. We all are to varying degrees.
I know someone who won’t forgive himself because they harmed someone who won’t forgive them and they don’t feel it is their right to forgive themselves if the other person does not.
That, or they don’t feel they did anything wrong out of ego defense. I highly doubt they feel that way, since they accuse basically everyone in the universe of doing that thing (probably also out of ego defense). So they obviously know it’s wrong (unless they’re inventing a wrong to make what they did seem right—out of ego defense). They do seem a little mixed up. Something’s gotta give. It’s like they’re in a master/slave relationship with their self and need to resolve it by consent recognition (rather than responsibility deflection). Until then, they will not be able to forgive themselves.
They need to realize that they aren’t actually going to die if they give up (kill) the indefensible part of their identity they are defending, and acknowledge they are imperfect. That is easier to do if you know you are loved despite your crap and therefor have the power to change it.
Dr. Snyder referred to that as acknowledging your competing desires/emotions even if you don’t understand or agree with them. That means you have to talk about it when you’re ready. Preferably with someone you trust to call bullshit without trying on purpose to hurt your feelings or manipulate you. They have unconditional positive regard for your consent structure in common with all consent structures.
Ichthus.
I’m going tell you this because you follow Jesus.
The only way to escape is to protect and teach.
Jesus wants everlasting life (a teenage spirit)
I want oblivion. The state of no mind.
Why do you say teenage? He wants to burn his mother down! Like Descartes! Remove all ungrounded presuppositions and start from scratch!
I’ll be back tonight.
You said teenage spirit, but also say we are never born & never die & so are ageless.
If Jesus wants my teenage spirit (which he already has…since he birthed it) … he has until 9/22/25. I turn 20.
My body, on the other hand…
P.s.
Dang, I forget.
Protect only those who cannot protect themselves, and teach at the maturity level (body included) of the student. Seems we’ve covered this, but. That’s what a teacher has to do until the student knows it enough to teach it, right?
Do you think I still need to be taught that? Let’s walk & talk, man.
P.s. Escape what?
¿Why?
Because I’m wise enough to know what forever is.
Jesus and I are almost carbon copies to some extent. I’m older than him.
He thought everlasting life was the truth.
I think eternal slumber is the truth.
Jesus learns from me.
We both know that teaching and protecting spirits is how to get out of here.
I have a more Buddhist take on this:
The first noble truth is that all life is suffering.
Take that very seriously.
He wasn’t a nihilist. He just spoke truth.
There are tons of things the Buddha didn’t teach that I teach.
But that’s neither here nor there.
I’m actually not going to perform an obvious miracle for you while I’m here.
My miracle is more subtle and greater.
I let your minds work.
Fine, change the subject. Why are “no mind“ and “mindfulness“ part of the same tradition? Or are they? Is it a misinterpretation? Of what original text?
Oh. That’s just zen.
The actual answer to it is that oblivion is being everything at once.
When you’re no mind, you are all mind.
This concept is hard for humans to understand.
But all of you know it.
When you’re in your deepest sleep without dreams…. You’re all of time and space and beyond. You’re everywhere but you remember nothing, you are nothing. You are no mind.
We are both humans. In the image of God.
How is having access to other people’s minds any different than, say, talking to them on the phone but instead of their voice being sent through mechanical stuff outside of your own body, the phone is something that happens inside your own bodybrain?
When you’re muttering to yourself and you know it is yourself, that feels distinctly different than when you’re muttering to someone on the phone, and I imagine it would still feel distinctly different if the phone stuff happened in your brain.
However …have you ever had a sudden insight out of the blue? The sort of thing you couldn’t just take responsibility for?
I’ve seen you say some pretty insightful things in your videos. The only (well… one) problem is you totally contradict those insights in other (sometimes the same) videos.
I would love to see you make all of your ideas work together and measure them against their practicality in reality and whether or not they violate consent or recognize it.
No matter where the ideas may have originated. Put them to the test!