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Where do I begin?

Neural brain cognition is the essence of the mind. There is no mind without the body (brain organ). Thus the mind-body split is falsified by one important observation. An organism does not require consciousness to be alive. Therefore the body can and does exist without the mind. The body is the foundation for the mind. The mind is the extension, apex, and height of any individual quality. Any organism is judged according to its mind or mindlessness with relation to its body.

Humanity is an apex specie of creature on earth that has a relatively high cognition and mental state compared to inferior mammals. Humanity symbolizes the advancement of intelligence and cognitive evolution on both individual and collective scales. The brain capacity and mental power of one human can outweigh the value of an entire colony of bees or a flock of birds. But the collective intelligence of groups must be respected. Perhaps a group of apes and monkeys exceed the brain power and capacity of a single, low-quality human.

Humanity expresses both great individual and collective intellectual (cognitive) quality. An individual with a very powerful cognition and mental state is recognized as Genius. A society with great cognition is recognized through superior culture and enlightenment. However individuals must be separated and kept distinct from societies; because there is an important distinction between them. On one level an individual is other than society; and a society is other than an individual. Categorization is the mental process that distinguishes between singular individuals or multifarious societies.

Individuals are defined by identities. All minds of every specie attempts to make itself distinct according to its living willpower. Because to exist is also to separate from any environment. Life itself is a separation from the environment as any cellular organism or virus forms a body unto itself. Thus individuality follows a rule and embodies a law. All creatures exist in such a way to separate apart from everything else. Thus the distinction between what is alive, what is dead, and what is non-living, can be made.

The possibility of consciousness begins when life separates from non-life.

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Well I don’t think that we can really separate from any environment that we ever experienced, necessarily. Unless it was a short one brief stint receiving a type of information that was rather mundane to us regardless. But that’s because we already experienced a similar enough environment to already have had a similar enough impression.

Now - why must we separate from the environment as opposed to say, conquer the environment. Or at least, conquer as much as we can. That is what animals do, that is how evolution plays out essentially. But we don’t exist in such a way to separate from everything else, we exist in such a way that makes you think they are separating from everything else, through your conception of what they are doing. There is no separation, there is oneness also; there is life competing with life in order to survive and guarantee longer survival. The best at this get to reproduce (in theory) and in turn that life is passed on traits of the best at the time.

Separation? Conceptually maybe. But in reality? Na.

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if you put a fibre optic camera in your brain, you would not see anything the consciousness is seeing*. ergo while - an organism does not require consciousness to be alive - for it to see and feel the world it does need consciousness. this is why when sleepwalking the body is acting as if like a machine.

*unless you have a different explanation?

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If you want to seperate from the environment simply close your eyes. The inherent binary space partitioning tree of the universe will isolate the pixels of consciousness to your brain body.
No further photonal input from outside your body will interact with your eyes.
The mind is the only world there is.

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There is only one Universal mind, but it is subdivided into other minds.

I know I am sentient, but let’s say Ecmandu is sentient. Ecmandu said that I am a mirror image of him 20 years ago.
So does that mean when I die, I have to become Ecmandu? Because I’d rather not, he seems rather suicidal and I don’t wish to have to go through that.
But at the same time, if both of us are sentient in the same worldspace, and if I was never him in a past or future life, how can he be sentient if I am sentient and will never be him? I don’t want to be him though, I am just asking.

I feel like my childhood is dead and will never come back. Neitzche’s recurrence out the window, after all it is horrifying and I’d rather not live out my life again, nor Ecmandu’s. I feel like when this body dies I will become even more powerful than before and go to the future, rather than to the past. I feel like I am even developing a memory outside my body, becoming one with the aether. Like I could invade people’s thoughts when my body dies if I wanted to.

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You cannot separate from your environment. Shutting off your eyes tot he world around you is nothing more than not seeing your environment. You are also inundated with sounds, feelings, smells, the air you breathe affects you. How it feels, the temperature.

If you experience your environment only through your eyes, you are missing out on all sorts of information that can be processed. Let alone the information we cannot sense… that affects us. UV light, Vitamin D coming from the sun? Not getting Vitamin D from the sun? Bacteria around us, in us, on us. The very form of our body warping the fabric of space time itself. No, you cannot separate from your environment.

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Yes that’s true, but I was just baiting you for my next piece. In deep sleep you can be almost 100 percent seperated from the world outside your body, without accepting data from it. At most, the data will be subtly transformed into memes. For instance, a fly buzzing noise may become a lightsabre dream entity.

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Your body is the run time environment of consciousness, but the definition of environment I used is the general accepted definition, which the world environment which your body resides in, and your sensory organs are not directly grounded into.

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Perhaps separation from the environment, is, to conquer the environment.

How “You” and “I” were formed.

Humanity has developed a very sophisticated and complex procedure to build the individuality, independence, and cognitive identity of any singular person. Very early in life humans are assigned names. Yet one name stands above all others and remains overlooked by the majority. Along with your familial name is the universal name of “I”. This “Name of I” is a name that most humans share with one-another, with exceptions and distinctions found across the borders of foreign cultures and languages. Different societies, histories, and philosophies develop different notions of the “I-Name”. When “You” and “I” share the I-Name then “We” refer to our distinct and individual selves as We, a group, a society, a race, a nation of people. But “We” are also a population of “I”.

Every individual is different in at least some subtle way. No ‘I’ is the exact same as the next; thus there is no true equality or equal value of I. Every person, every ego, every identity is separated by bodies, proximity, time and space. Your existence is not identical with another. Thus ‘I’ becomes distinct and expands its individuality.

“I” can be male or female, tall or short, wide or narrow, white or black, rich or poor. I can be any nation, any race, any society. I can be any person, at any time, in any place. I exist throughout humanity. I am humanity. I –is– Humanity. What you know as your ‘I’, yourself, your ego, is everything of value to any person. The I-Name and I-Identity has utmost importance. Very few people can truly or realistically separate Ego from its I-Name identification. Because what are you without “I” and with a name? What is the body without the mind?

I-Identity is an education and represents a passage of (Human) culture. All I’s together represent the whole of Humanity as a large, all-encompassing Hominid specie. Thus the I-Name binds everybody who is distinct and individual into one grouping. I is a unifying idea, a unifying name and recognition. Everybody recognizes “I” as thyself. Begin to consider how “I” is formed, not only in your life, your childhood, your maturity, but also in others and throughout the history of humanity.

Where did “I” come from?

Where do “I” begin?

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Well its just a word to refer to ourselves. It was inevitable. And why not?

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I is a fundamental component of the nature of Reality. It is not a human construct, but some lingo that will arise as the result of any sentient entity with rudimentary communication ability.

A robot will refer to itself as “I”, or the equivalent of “I”. It is a mathematical neccessity.

I refers to “Eye”, or the Perciever.

It has nothing to do with ego in the fruedian sense. God refers to itself as “I”. Usually I is localized in a body, but sometimes it might not have a body, it could be dream like and not have a body. I is always changing and it’s form depends on the form it is perceiving around it.

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Individual Identity is selfish and strives for Independence.

Your I and My I struggles to stand-alone, to differentiate, and pronounce our respective selves as Unique, one of a kind. It is this uniqueness and specialization that represents the process of Identification.

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And then there is the greatest and most significant distinction between an individual organism and its environment: Life-itself.

It is the procreation and recreation of life, behaviors, habits, processes, leading to evolution and consciousness, that separates a thing or object from the subjective, living experience. Life can be defined as the most existential ‘separation’ of environment. Living organisms are extensions of environment, and create a feedback with it. Living organisms change their environments, to suit themselves, and so re-integrate within a formerly hostile environment, unsuitable for life.

Life terra-forms its own environment.

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And then there is the greatest and most significant distinction between an individual organism and its environment: Life-itself.

It is the procreation and recreation of life, behaviors, habits, processes, leading to evolution and consciousness, that separates a thing or object from the subjective, living experience. Life can be defined as the most existential ‘separation’ of environment. Living organisms are extensions of environment, and create a feedback with it. Living organisms change their environments, to suit themselves, and so re-integrate within a formerly hostile environment, unsuitable for life.

Life terra-forms its own environment.

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Yes.

This separation you mention, is what we have been calling self-valuing; the fact that every being must hold itself as its supreme standard of value, and to whatever extent it does this is the extent it thrives, likewise to whatever extent it fails to do this is the extent it withers and perishes, becoming subsumed within the values of other self-valuings (other beings).

Both living and nonliving things self-valuing. An apple values itself (holds itself as the standard of value for all its interactions), but so does a rock, and a bee, and a human being. But the way in which living things self-value is different from the way nonliving things self-value: what we call ‘life’ is a particular kind of self-reflexivity whereby a totality-as-image stands forth unto that being which aims to set that which it is as the highest possible standard. Rocks innately self-value (interpret incoming forces in terms of that which the rock always-already is, qua rock), but an animals “consciously” self-values (holds salient to its interpretive quality a singularizing, totalized image of itself whereby force-deflections become subservient in part to the dynamics of this image, which is what we call instinct and is that from which desire and affect come).

Beings that we call conscious or alive are particular forms of nonliving being. To be living is necessarily to be nonliving, but to be nonliving is not necessarily to be living. Life does not simply lose its “nonliving” dimension upon attaining its living dimension; both now coexist together.

“Ideas” are representations of facts, states of affairs, perceptions, and values. Ideas are surrogate living beings that coexist within certain beings (such as humans); the more evolved and progressed along the universal continuum of being a given life-form is, the more “ideas” it becomes capable of having, both in terms of quality and quantity.

All beings are formed out of truths, and the apprehension of truths within and as being is what we call the awareness of facts at the conscious (living) level, and simple instinct or reactivity at the unconscious (nonliving) level. It is not possible for a being to be formed without truths, although there is a strong component of being as “will to power” which strives for untruth by virtue of the fact of hidden excesses latent to the psyche or “repressed instinctuality (reflex)”.