The finitude vs. infinitude of the universe are themselves concepts with some differences also dependent on what do you mean by “finite” or “infinite” (infinite space-time? finite but zero in size? infinitely small? infinite in scale but finite in content?). One may match reality, the other may not. Idk what to say here.
Everything starts as a concept/idea. Reality is the realization/application when the idea gets applied, embodied, matched to what shows up. A chair is first a concept in my mind (form + function + purpose). The physical chair is the realization because it matches that concept. Anything that doesn’t match isn’t a chair.
When I was writing this post, I realized the structure: concept/idea first then realization of it. Ideas aren’t “in” reality. The ideas in my mind are a bunch of neurons/electrons. But the same idea could be written on paper, stored on a phone, etc. So, the ideas themselves aren’t the neurons or paper. None of those carriers are the idea. So, you see that ideas are not some separate substances they don’t have any of their own form. They simply don’t exist. Without someone conscious like me the paper of ideas is meaningless scribbles. Destroy the paper, the neurons, even the entire universe, the idea survives because it was never “in” any of those things. Ideas aren’t not points in space-time, not bound by physical laws. We cannot point to any realization and say that this is the idea itself. Therefore, ideas do not exist in the way realizations do. Existence is a concept we apply only to what is manifested in reality.
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So, if the concept of nothingness is pointless to discuss because it has no physical manifestation or realization in reality… then the same must apply to God. God has no physical form or manifestation by definition. Does that mean God is also pointless to discuss? Or does the pointless label only apply when it suits the argument?
Btw causality is a concept involving one action being caused by intention, deliberateness, or purpose. Correlation is a concept describing observed patterns or co-occurrences between realizations (tangible states, actions, events in the world). And through correlation, God doesn’t exist.
Also everything is technically part of “quantum world”. Everything in our experienced reality is already a result of quantum processes. What people call the “quantum world” is just the non-trivial or counter-intuitive behavior that shows up when we look at scales/behaviors where classical intuitions break down. The math actually works, predictions are accurate, and many aspects (superposition, entanglement etc) are conceptually graspable even if they feel weird at first.