Information, or the unwillingness to know?

For the sake of humor and in refutation of the pointless chatter on this platform, I’ll propose a simple “theory.” Try to dispute it—answering objections will be fun.

So, the Universe is just information. Not a matrix like a record on a medium, but information, sometimes embodied in the form of the past and present, but sometimes not, as the form of the future.

In this case (in the model of the Universe), everything falls into place. Information can be false, incomplete. That is, the past and the present are truly lies of existence, in which humans must live, and, accordingly, lie without the possibility of knowing the future. Isn’t it funny? You’re all pathetic liars. All your worldviews, perspectives, knowledge concepts, all your stinking authorities—insignificant liars. So, how about it? Can you disprove this simple logic? Or are you capable of agreeing with it and asking in anger, what does the Demon, the Fool, and the servant of Chaos know? Do you have the strength to ask how the Universe is truly arranged? Why does it even exist, what is the purpose of existence? How will it all end? What is the role of humans in this process? What is the meaning of human life, and what is meaning itself? Or are you used to living in lies and categorically unwilling to know the truth? After all, how many prophets, idols, teachers, soothsayers, leaders do you have? But they’re all liars—they didn’t know the future, didn’t want to know… God. Knowledge of God rejects any religion, and even more so, atheism. So, who remains among people? Who of you is ready to know?

Let me know if you’d like any tweaks to this!

Ha!
No existence is energy.
Information is what living organisms convert patterned energies into.

We exist in the world of our own making…but not all worlds are equally true.
We are contained in our subjectivity, striving to become, to approach objectivity.
But this requires courage and stamina - a strong constitution.

Reality is mostly detrimental to life, and to our subjective desires.
Very few men have the psychosomatic constitution to endure, and of those few manage to endure it unscathed.

So lies dominate these philosophical discourses, because very few have the constitution to be true philosophers, placing the truth above their own survival.

Are you capable of giving definitions for what energy is and what information is? Did humans create the Universe? Or are you imagining too much about humans? Can you explain the boundaries of subjectivity and objectivity? I agree that Knowledge is lethal to the psyche, but only for the weak and unprepared. In fact, if we’re laughing, let’s laugh. Give a definition of what a lie is, in general? And here’s a simple question: What is philosophy, and what is its purpose?

The force is strong in this one. I’ll be watching this Demon.

Are you capable of giving definitions for what energy is and what information is?

Yes…from the Greek εν-εργεια…In a state of agitation.
At work.

Did humans create the Universe?

Ha!
Only a naive fool would ask this.
No, the cosmos is where life emerges.
Existence requires no creation. It is.

Or are you imagining too much about humans?

No, actually I have a low opinion of my own kind.

Can you explain the boundaries of subjectivity and objectivity?

Subjectivity is an interpretation of the objective world.
How a consciousness interprets the energy patterns it perceives, using naturally selected methods - a priori - which have proven to be sufficient.

Kant’s noumenoin, in the objective, andf his phenomenon is the apparent, how consciousness interprets what is present, as the apparent.

Past is made present, interpreted by consciousness, as appearance.

The quality of the interpretation determines the conscious organism’s success, if it is not sheltered by another agency.

Give a definition of what a lie is, in general?

A lie is an intentional - even if subconscious - concealment of the truth, as it is understood by the individual.
Self-deceit increases the effectiveness of lies, so it is common among humans.

A lie is a contradiction of the real. Usually it is a spin-doctoring of the apparent.

What is philosophy, and what is its purpose?

Philosophy is about the evaluation of the truth, and an understanding of how to use it.
Wisdom.

Knowledge = data - energy patterns
Understanding - patterns in the data. Patterns determining patterns.

Philosophy is also a study of how the human mind works - how it processes and categorizes and applies its understanding of existence, starting with an understanding of language.

Is energy a process (in work)? Or a state (agitation)? Or just a bluff, explaining another bluff, made up by physicists? A demon might pretend to be naive for the sake of provocation. If there is the uncreated—it is not substantial. That is, part of existence in the form of a bluff, a lie, or a fabrication, like energy. Humans—lower level of thinking (biological).
Subjectivity, thinking from the general.
Objectivity, from the particular.

What was the question about? It’s that only the completeness of understanding, meaning subjective and objective thinking, gives complete understanding.

To laugh at the common definition of a lie, just ask. Abstraction. Is abstraction “the concealment of truth”? “A lie”? Or even funnier. Is objectivity a lie? After all, it’s definitely not complete understanding.
A contradiction of reality? If this contradiction exists, then it is real. So, where is the lie here?
Distortion of the visible? Are you sure you see everything? Radio waves—lies?

I’ll pity you. A lie is what is beyond the boundaries of what is recognized as truth or veracity. But in the case of humans, recognition means nothing. After all, you live, therefore you exist, and certainly you think—only in lies.

Philosophy is the science that defines the vectors of development for all other sciences.
Wisdom is the refusal to seek knowledge in favor of the belief that you already know everything.
Understanding is manipulation with concepts.
Concepts are dogmatically accepted milestones of understanding.

The mind works simply, there’s nothing to study here.
It’s enough to understand what the mind is and stop using fabrications.
The mind is divided by doubts and capable of holding contradictions, reason.
Reason is a mechanism for processing information (usually in biological beings).
But conditionally, one can talk about the “mind” of a machine.
I hope now you’ll know why machines are not reasonable.

Is energy a process (in work)? Or a state (agitation)? Or just a bluff, explaining another bluff, made up by physicists?

A bluff requires a motive.
What motive do you discern, other than to make the incomprehensible comprehensible?

Heraclitus used the metaphor of fire, to express the same idea. he could not have known energy as we know it.
Energy is a state of agitation…when it is ordered it has a pattern, when it is not, it is chaotic.
Consciousness perceives and interprets patterns as things…with four perceptible kinds: energy, gas, liquid, solid…relative to its own metabolic speeds, determinism the speed of its percolation.

So, a pattern that is slow, relative to the observers processing speed, is interpreted as being solid…

A demon might pretend to be naive for the sake of provocation. If there is the uncreated—it is not substantial. That is, part of existence in the form of a bluff, a lie, or a fabrication, like energy. Humans—lower level of thinking (biological).
Subjectivity, thinking from the general.
Objectivity, from the particular.

Your presumption of a ‘demon’ requires evidence, or, at least, reasoning.

What was the question about? It’s that only the completeness of understanding, meaning subjective and objective thinking, gives complete understanding.

No, nothing is ever completed.
Uncertainty remains…Chaos, by itself, prevents total awareness.

A contradiction of reality? If this contradiction exists, then it is real. So, where is the lie here?
Distortion of the visible? Are you sure you see everything? Radio waves—lies?

No, I most certainly do not see “EVERYTHING.”
I am no god…nor is it necessary.

how do I test my understanding?
First hand - application
Second hand - observation of another’s application.
Third hand - reading or listening to another observations.

I’ll pity you. A lie is what is beyond the boundaries of what is recognized as truth or veracity. But in the case of humans, recognition means nothing. After all, you live, therefore you exist, and certainly you think—only in lies.

Projection.
Interesting that you chose to express your pity…is it a projection of your own self-pity?
Do you want to be pitied, but wish to conceal your decrepitude by universalizing it?

Why do men deny race and gender?
Because they fear being categorized and excluded.

Philosophy is the science that defines the vectors of development for all other sciences.

Unnecessarily convoluted pseud-intellectual jargon…pretending to be saying something profound.
You could have said the unification of human understanding and knowledge…but you chose to lie.

Science comes form philosophy, dear boy…
Science is rooted in philosophy. Science is philosophical insights being applied and tested.

Wisdom is the refusal to seek knowledge in favor of the belief that you already know everything.

What?!
Is that how you understand philosophy?
Explains a lot about you.

Do you wish the other to show humility?
Maybe he can include a disclaimer with every opinion he utters, to not pretend he 'knows everything."
Allowing you to not feel insecure.

Understanding is manipulation with concepts.

Another admission of guilt.
Are you confessing?

Concepts are dogmatically accepted milestones of understanding.

Well they can become so…but how are concepts created?
You are focused on how they are imposed.

The mind works simply, there’s nothing to study here.

So would say every simple mind.

It’s enough to understand what the mind is and stop using fabrications.
The mind is divided by doubts and capable of holding contradictions, reason.

Is it “enough” for you?
How can a mind simultaneously hold two contradictory views, without suffering any distress?

The answer is found in understanding how the mind creates concepts.
But you are not interested…too complex.

Reason is a mechanism for processing information (usually in biological beings).
But conditionally, one can talk about the “mind” of a machine.
I hope now you’ll know why machines are not reasonable.

So, you are here to teach…why machines are not reasonable, without explaining how concepts are formed and why a mind can hold two contradictory views…
How can a mind synthesize, for instance, two phenomena, a goat and a man, and imagine a none existent creature…a satyr?
How can it do this?

If it knows it is its own fabrication it isn’t’ immersed in a lie of its own creation…but what if it is convinced that its creations, its subjectivity, is the real world?
Would it not be lying to itself…as a way of coping with a world it finds unbearable?

The motive of educated figures is to receive money from the authorities. More precisely, science is a whore on the authorities’ payroll. Remember something simple: there is no chaos and there cannot be any in order. All who talk about “chaotic motion” are degenerates, even if educated. Motion is relative, and this is a sign of order. Accordingly, the stupid “energy” cannot be chaotic. Consciousness is a collection of knowledge, and not a process at all. The process is called thinking. Or, alternatively, awareness (outlining the boundaries of knowledge). “Observer” is an idiotic invention. Not just an abstraction, but a reflection of idiocy in the unwillingness to accept facts. It was by using the stupid “observer” that the degenerate Einstein, sticking his tongue out at people, came up with his idiotic “theory.” You don’t know what a Demon is, hence the objection. Learn: Angels are entities that maintain order. Demons are entities that create new, more perfect orders. From here they only destroy unnecessary and absurd foundations. What is there to prove? I write the opposite of what is accepted. This is the proof of a demonic entity. You know nothing about Chaos. You won’t be able to explain what it is. And even more so, give a definition. Uncertainty is a particularity of order. What does Chaos have to do with it? And who assured you that God is perfect? Well, that’s ridiculous. God is perfect at a given moment in time, but not perfect in relation to Himself in the future. So, God is not perfect, He doesn’t know the future, although He almost certainly plans it. Agree. Human stupidity cannot be planned. That is why people are unique and are needed by God as an instrument of knowledge. It’s not about my feelings, which are practically nonexistent. Feelings are demons. If they dominate the mind, people go crazy, they rage. They do what is unreasonable. The three main demons are Faith, Hope, and Love. Faith is the instinct of the herd, beastliness. Where one sheep goes, the other follows without thinking. Hope is an unsubstantiated faith in a good future. Love is an insinuation (perversion) of reason on the subject of property. This is about the fact that there are no reasonable feelings. And the unreasonable is always evil. Do you want to deny the essence of philosophy? Its only purpose and goal? You don’t understand what a vector is? Science does not stem from philosophy because philosophy is also a science. And I am not a “boy” to you, but definitely older. Both in age and in spirit. What admission is required? That existence is a lie? It is incomplete at a given moment in time. Or do you need an admission that any word is a lie? Because it is doomed to the speaker’s inarticulateness and the listener’s misunderstanding. Or do you demand explanations as to why any truth is definitely a lie in essence, because it comes from law, including the right to make mistakes? What admission do you need? That there is nothing at the disposal of little people except lies? You are deprived of telepathy and communication with the “collective unconscious” of planet Earth. Deprived of communication with the controlling mind of the Sun that governs your biology. There is no desire to understand God and what He is trying to tell you. Do you need such a “confession”? Your mind is poor, and that’s why you are unable to hold contradictions. Fear is a biological limitation. It disappears if the mind or feelings (demons) have an advantage. Concepts are dogmatic milestones of understanding. Isn’t that an explanation? Do you really want to know how the mind creates images? So easily. Initially, forms are invented. Forms are frames, boundaries, possibilities, limitations, limits of understanding. And then the mind literally pushes and implants content into the forms. That’s where the formality of any understanding comes from. That’s also where the lie comes from. You don’t understand that the mind has levels? The human is the most primitive. And then comes the collective mind — for example, the mind in the form of plasma — the Sun. Or something else — the synthetic mind, which is actually the creator of little people. Do you want me to tell you how everything is arranged according to the levels of the Mind of the Universe? Do you want to know what Chaos really is?

“The three main demons are Faith, Hope, and Love. Faith is the instinct of the herd, beastliness. Where one sheep goes, the other follows without thinking. Hope is an unsubstantiated faith in a good future. Love is an insinuation (perversion) of reason on the subject of property.”

That’s Diogenesean af.

Unfortunately, I use ChatGPT as a translator and regret even more that the English language is so straightforward. It lacks the nuances of the Russian language. Hence, there is an inherent incompleteness. I couldn’t care less about Diogenes or any other philosophers. Their statements and teachings are just foundations from which we need to break free, to push off into new knowledge.

"promethean75, would you like me to teach you who spirits are and the rules of communicating with them, using the example of, say, lucid dreaming?

I rarely, if ever, dream and honestly can’t recall ever having a lucid dream. I’ve never known myself to be dreaming when i was.

I’ve had night terrors before… that gig where half of your brain wakes up and you lay there awake but paralyzed for several minutes.

Then what prevents you from trying lucid dreams, while I describe all the dangers? First and foremost, what is a spirit? A spirit is the force that determines essence, endowing the right to be, to exist. And now, the rules:

Spirits can only appear in a form that a person can and wants to see, and no other way.

Any action that is not lawful in the world of spirits is punishable.

Any and every spirit is ready to defend its territory and is pleased with success when it manages to seize something from another.

Hierarchy. Literally a pyramid where each spirit is given a level. And if you want to climb higher, you must win the right, prove it. Otherwise, you can easily be cast down to the bottom. The strength will, of course, be appropriated.

Spirits can only use human fears, and in the spirit world, there is no evil or good.

And still the question: would you like to learn safe surfing of lucid dreams? It’s simple, considering the above.

Actually, no, to be honest. I’m that dumbass that’ll fuck with the spirits and dare em to do something about it. I kinda like the danger, in fact.

The nerve of some spirit thinkin he can tell me wtf i can and cain’t do. Naw, i ain’t goin’ out like that, D.

Funny. The claim to a level that doesn’t align with reason is punishable. By the loss of one’s last bits of sanity. There are these lower entities—demons, or feelings. And it’s submission to these creatures that makes one write utter nonsense. Although I can imagine how furious those must be who read it and are too scared to speak up.

Insanity and superstition rise…as empire collapses.

… and sometimes they’re at their peak when empires form, too.

I happen to be a fan of cause and effect. What does your master (Chaos) have to say about c&e?

Information is a reflection of truth, of some aspect(s) of reality. Otherwise it is not information and merely falsity/noise/made up meaningless stuff. Information ITSELF has nothing to do with “patterns of energies”. It has to do with TRUTH and REALITY, i.e. human understanding of these things. It has to do therefore with the MIND. There may be “patterns of energies” in the brain’s neurology or at the subatomic levels of existence but such things are irrelevant in terms of what information ITSELF is and means.

Your argument is like saying “cars are just patterns of energies”, what silliness. You are free to reduce everything to its lowest possible denominator, but that’s on you. Good luck with that. You may want to get that nihilism checked.

Energy preceded the emergence of life, and will continue when there is no more life.
Converting everything to what you can comprehend is on you.

‘With the mind’…anthropomorphize everything is how people, like you, Trojan Horse your superstitious nonsense into reality.

Good luck with your new religion.
I’m interested in objective truth.

… a new religion that’ll bring ya to your knees!

Black velvet, if you please…