In this thread we discuss all things related to Chinese Taoism.
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Taoism is wonderful. It has the secret of life: Alignment.
And, just like all of the other religions, philosophies, and sciences, they ALL fit in perfectly with the G.U.T.O.E. Which, by the way, shows HOW âweâ all can and do end up living in Peace and Harmony together, as One.
I have put Wu Wei into practical use, and the results are astounding. I visit my daughter in Arizona, a 600-mile drive. The worst part of the drive is between Gallup and Holbrook. 75 mph highway, but not everyone goes the speed limit. Massive amounts of semis and rolling hills. Trying to go 75 leads to tension, stress, and anger, repeatedly jockeying for position and passing. I have been studying Taoism, so on my last trip I set my cruise control at 65 and let everyone pass me. I arrived at Holbrook, my turnoff to Phoenix, relaxed, and it only cost me 15 minutes. I aligned myself with the reality of the conditions and didnât fight. Thatâs Wu Wei.
I thought driving slower than the speed limit could contribute to causing tension, stress, and/or anger in other drivers.
Is part of âtaoismâ not caring about âothersâ?
Thatâs only the case if there is a minimum speed and there wasnât one on this highway. The tension comes from fighting traffic. If many people are already going below the speed limit, those are the conditions, no matter what the speed limit is. But Iâve found that on every road with a 75-mile-per-hour speed limit, you get a range of anywhere from 55 to 75. Wu Wei is about letting go and going with the flow. So thatâs what I did. If people want to go to 75, they still can; they just have to pass me and everyone else who isnât. So I wasnât not caring about others. Just going with the current.
Chinese Daoism and Politics
Nationalism: Rivers and mountains do not recognize state lines; treating artificial borders as sacred creates unnecessary friction. Oh, yes it does. The daoist practitioner relates to global issues with fluid, boundaryless empathy rather than tribal fervor.![]()
Women: The world functions through the harmony of complementary forces. By painting an entire sex with broad, hostile strokes, you are saying bye bye to Yin principlesâreceptivity, softness, nuance, and opennessâin favor of rigid, aggressive Yang judgment. Booh ya, baby. Obsessively attacking the feminine often signals a person at war with their own inability to be receptive, vulnerable, or balanced. ![]()
Complaining in general: Wu Wei means flowing with life rather than forcing friction against it. Mm, you can almost feel it. Itâs like the world is purring. Constant complaining is the ultimate form of forcingâdemanding that reality conform to oneâs preferred script. By radiating bitter resentment, he naturally attracts negative dynamics and repels healthy ones, creating a self-fulfilling cycle of bad experiences. Go with, like the flow, man. ![]()
The Fall of the West: Where the dogmatic communist strays is in attaching their ego to the prediction. Gloating over an empireâs decline, fixating on timelines, or treating historical collapse as a victory for a human political theory misses the point. To a Taoist, watching an empire fall is like watching a dry leaf drop from a treeâit is simply the rhythm of things, not an ideological trophy to parade around. Help the elderly neighbor in from the rain, and do not worry about the leaf falling a thousand miles away.
The communist nation vs. daoism:
Chapter 80 (Tao Te Ching)
A small country with few people. Though there are labor-saving devces, no one uses them.The people take death seriously and do not travel far. Though they have boats and carriages, no one rides in them.Though they have armor and weapons, no one displays them.They return to the use of knotted cords instead of writing. Their food is savory, their clothes are fine,Their homes are secure, their customs are joyful.Neighboring countries look at one another,Hearing the crowing of roosters and the barking of dogs,Yet the people grow old and die Without ever coming and going between them.
Small & Local - no national bureaucracy. No central planning. The villages handle themeselves, simply without hierarchy.
Rural vs. Urban: simple self-sufficiency, no great proletariat in factories.
Right now and until all this yang eases, the Masters wonât look at you while they exercise:
But if everyone is passing you, then you not going with the flow.
Iâm aligning with the Tao, which is the condition present on the highway at that time. Iâm going with the flow of traffic and not fighting against it, which causes stress and anger. Because of the structure of the road with rolling hills, the truckers can not go 75. They slow down on the uphills and speed up on the downhills. If you pass a truck on the uphill, it will pass you again on the downhill. Better to let it pass you and never see it again.
If âeveryoneâ is passing you, as you said and claimed, then you are not exactly going with nor matching the âcurrent flowâ of things around you.
Iâm matching the trafficâs minimum speed on that road. Just like Iâm matching the minimum speed of the water in a river at a particular place. If the river narrows, the speed of the water changes. If the highwayâs structure changes, it becomes flat, and traffic spreads out and speeds up; I go with the flow.
But, again, if âeveryoneâ is passing you, then you are obviously not matching the flow. Just like if you were a part of a river and âallâ of the water is passing you, you are obviously not matching the flow, and literally nothing going âwith the flowâ.
Everyone is not passing me. Only those drivers who want to go faster. Let them. Iâm not stopping them. If they want to be constantly jockeying for position with hundreds of semis that slow down to 55 or 60 on the uphill, they can, and if they want to speed to stay ahead of them on the downhill, they can, but this is not Wu Wei. When a semi got ahead of me going up a hill, I slowed down temporarily. When they sped up going down the other side, I let them.
Why then did you say you let âeveryone pass youâ, exactly?
Are you suggesting that if you were doing the actual speed limit then you would not have let âthem pass youâ?
Would it not be the best thing to do, in Life, to just let everyone who is going faster than you pass you, no matter what speed you are going at anyway?
I am not sure why any human being would not just want to let someone go past you even if you were going faster than some number on a so-called speed limit sign. Was it not already known to just not get in âthe wayâ of others and let them pass always, no matter how fast you are going? After all, obviously others might be in a hurry or have some medical emergency, for example.
Did you prevent or stop people previously?
Okay.
How long have you had your driverâs licence for?
Also, this âjockeying for positionâ can be seen throughout in this adult-created, money-driven world, and not just on the road.
Adults are in âa rushâ to obtain and gain as much money as they can before they canât anymore. Only younger children âgo with the flowâ, and maybe a few elders who are not ârushingâ for âa positionâ anymore. The rest are mostly too busy âtrying toâ make and get as much as they can.
I thought the âeverybody who wants to pass meâ was implicit in the context.
Okay.
Was the âyou would not have let them pass previouslyâ also implicit in the context?
In Life, does not every person just let âotherâs pass themâ anyway? I thought this was a given.
I give upâŚ
âIâ do not.
What I am reading here is that you are not in âa rushâ as you used to be, and in your âslowing downâ in Life, âyouâ have had âmore timeâ to think about and recognise more about what is going on âaround youâ and in Life.
What is is now seeming like is that, previously, you would purposely not allow others to âpass youâ, and you âscrambledâ to be some sort of âwinnerâ in Life. But, ânowâ, that âyouâ are âolder and wiserâ, âyouâ are learning to just go with âthe flowâ and let things âjust happenâ, instead. âyouâ seem to have âmore awarenessâ of this as well.
But, then again, âIâ could be partly or completely Wrong here.