Introduction to Chinese Taoism

In this thread we discuss all things related to Chinese Taoism.

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Taoism is wonderful. It has the secret of life: Alignment.

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And, just like all of the other religions, philosophies, and sciences, they ALL fit in perfectly with the G.U.T.O.E. Which, by the way, shows HOW ‘we’ all can and do end up living in Peace and Harmony together, as One.

I have put Wu Wei into practical use, and the results are astounding. I visit my daughter in Arizona, a 600-mile drive. The worst part of the drive is between Gallup and Holbrook. 75 mph highway, but not everyone goes the speed limit. Massive amounts of semis and rolling hills. Trying to go 75 leads to tension, stress, and anger, repeatedly jockeying for position and passing. I have been studying Taoism, so on my last trip I set my cruise control at 65 and let everyone pass me. I arrived at Holbrook, my turnoff to Phoenix, relaxed, and it only cost me 15 minutes. I aligned myself with the reality of the conditions and didn’t fight. That’s Wu Wei.

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I thought driving slower than the speed limit could contribute to causing tension, stress, and/or anger in other drivers.

Is part of “taoism” not caring about ‘others’?

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That’s only the case if there is a minimum speed and there wasn’t one on this highway. The tension comes from fighting traffic. If many people are already going below the speed limit, those are the conditions, no matter what the speed limit is. But I’ve found that on every road with a 75-mile-per-hour speed limit, you get a range of anywhere from 55 to 75. Wu Wei is about letting go and going with the flow. So that’s what I did. If people want to go to 75, they still can; they just have to pass me and everyone else who isn’t. So I wasn’t not caring about others. Just going with the current.

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Chinese Daoism and Politics

Nationalism: Rivers and mountains do not recognize state lines; treating artificial borders as sacred creates unnecessary friction. Oh, yes it does. The daoist practitioner relates to global issues with fluid, boundaryless empathy rather than tribal fervor.:smiley:

Women: The world functions through the harmony of complementary forces. By painting an entire sex with broad, hostile strokes, you are saying bye bye to Yin principles—receptivity, softness, nuance, and openness—in favor of rigid, aggressive Yang judgment. Booh ya, baby. Obsessively attacking the feminine often signals a person at war with their own inability to be receptive, vulnerable, or balanced. :joy:

Complaining in general: Wu Wei means flowing with life rather than forcing friction against it. Mm, you can almost feel it. It’s like the world is purring. Constant complaining is the ultimate form of forcing—demanding that reality conform to one’s preferred script. By radiating bitter resentment, he naturally attracts negative dynamics and repels healthy ones, creating a self-fulfilling cycle of bad experiences. Go with, like the flow, man. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

The Fall of the West: Where the dogmatic communist strays is in attaching their ego to the prediction. Gloating over an empire’s decline, fixating on timelines, or treating historical collapse as a victory for a human political theory misses the point. To a Taoist, watching an empire fall is like watching a dry leaf drop from a tree—it is simply the rhythm of things, not an ideological trophy to parade around. Help the elderly neighbor in from the rain, and do not worry about the leaf falling a thousand miles away.

The communist nation vs. daoism:

Chapter 80 (Tao Te Ching)
A small country with few people. Though there are labor-saving devces, no one uses them.The people take death seriously and do not travel far. Though they have boats and carriages, no one rides in them.Though they have armor and weapons, no one displays them.They return to the use of knotted cords instead of writing. Their food is savory, their clothes are fine,Their homes are secure, their customs are joyful.Neighboring countries look at one another,Hearing the crowing of roosters and the barking of dogs,Yet the people grow old and die Without ever coming and going between them.

Small & Local - no national bureaucracy. No central planning. The villages handle themeselves, simply without hierarchy.

Rural vs. Urban: simple self-sufficiency, no great proletariat in factories.

Right now and until all this yang eases, the Masters won’t look at you while they exercise:

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But if everyone is passing you, then you not going with the flow.

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I’m aligning with the Tao, which is the condition present on the highway at that time. I’m going with the flow of traffic and not fighting against it, which causes stress and anger. Because of the structure of the road with rolling hills, the truckers can not go 75. They slow down on the uphills and speed up on the downhills. If you pass a truck on the uphill, it will pass you again on the downhill. Better to let it pass you and never see it again.

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If ‘everyone’ is passing you, as you said and claimed, then you are not exactly going with nor matching the ‘current flow’ of things around you.

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I’m matching the traffic’s minimum speed on that road. Just like I’m matching the minimum speed of the water in a river at a particular place. If the river narrows, the speed of the water changes. If the highway’s structure changes, it becomes flat, and traffic spreads out and speeds up; I go with the flow.

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But, again, if ‘everyone’ is passing you, then you are obviously not matching the flow. Just like if you were a part of a river and ‘all’ of the water is passing you, you are obviously not matching the flow, and literally nothing going ‘with the flow’.

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Everyone is not passing me. Only those drivers who want to go faster. Let them. I’m not stopping them. If they want to be constantly jockeying for position with hundreds of semis that slow down to 55 or 60 on the uphill, they can, and if they want to speed to stay ahead of them on the downhill, they can, but this is not Wu Wei. When a semi got ahead of me going up a hill, I slowed down temporarily. When they sped up going down the other side, I let them.

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Why then did you say you let “everyone pass you”, exactly?

Are you suggesting that if you were doing the actual speed limit then you would not have let “them pass you”?

Would it not be the best thing to do, in Life, to just let everyone who is going faster than you pass you, no matter what speed you are going at anyway?

I am not sure why any human being would not just want to let someone go past you even if you were going faster than some number on a so-called speed limit sign. Was it not already known to just not get in ‘the way’ of others and let them pass always, no matter how fast you are going? After all, obviously others might be in a hurry or have some medical emergency, for example.

Did you prevent or stop people previously?

Okay.

How long have you had your driver’s licence for?

Also, this “jockeying for position” can be seen throughout in this adult-created, money-driven world, and not just on the road.

Adults are in “a rush” to obtain and gain as much money as they can before they can’t anymore. Only younger children ‘go with the flow’, and maybe a few elders who are not “rushing” for “a position” anymore. The rest are mostly too busy ‘trying to’ make and get as much as they can.

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I thought the “everybody who wants to pass me” was implicit in the context.

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Okay.

Was the ‘you would not have let them pass previously’ also implicit in the context?

In Life, does not every person just let ‘other’s pass them’ anyway? I thought this was a given.

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I give up…

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‘I’ do not.

What I am reading here is that you are not in ‘a rush’ as you used to be, and in your ‘slowing down’ in Life, ‘you’ have had ‘more time’ to think about and recognise more about what is going on ‘around you’ and in Life.

What is is now seeming like is that, previously, you would purposely not allow others to ‘pass you’, and you ‘scrambled’ to be some sort of “winner” in Life. But, ‘now’, that ‘you’ are ‘older and wiser’, ‘you’ are learning to just go with ‘the flow’ and let things ‘just happen’, instead. ‘you’ seem to have ‘more awareness’ of this as well.

But, then again, ‘I’ could be partly or completely Wrong here.

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