Is defamation of religion a human right?

To defame religion is a human right

We must defend the right to cause offence to believers, when this is not meant to stir up hatred
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Peter Singer guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 15 April 2009 17.00 BST Article history

Last month, the UN human rights council adopted a resolution condemning “defamation of religion” as a human rights violation. According to the text of the resolution, “Defamation of religion is a serious affront to human dignity” that leads to “a restriction on the freedom of [religions’] adherents.”

The resolution was originally proposed by the 56-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), and was put to the human rights council by Pakistan. It supports that it was aimed at such things as the derogatory cartoons of the prophet Muhammad published in a Danish newspaper three years ago.

Germany opposed the resolution. Speaking on behalf of the European Union, a German spokesperson rejected the concept of “defamation of religion” as not valid in a human rights context, because human rights belonged to individuals, not to institutions or religions.

Many non-government organisations, both secular and religious, also opposed the resolution. Ronald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, said that that body saw the resolution as weakening “the rights of individuals to express their views”.

This seems like a sound argument. While attempts to stir up hatred against adherents of a religion, or to incite violence against them, may legitimately be suppressed, criticism of religion as such should not be.

The resolution is non-binding, but if nations were to enact laws putting it into effect, there can be no doubt that it would interfere with freedom of expression. For a start, what counts as “defamation of religion” is contested.
For example, the OIC said in its statement that “Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism.” Are those associations wrong? If the OIC wishes to change many people’s perception that Islam violates human rights, suppressing freedom of speech is hardly the best way to go about it. The way to change such a perception would be to marshal evidence against it, and to make the case that human rights – including the rights of women – are as well protected in Islamic countries as they are in non-Islamic countries.

To demonstrate that it is wrong to associate Islam with terrorism, the OIC might begin to compile statistics on the religious affiliations of those who engage in terrorism. By contrast, suppressing the freedom of speech of Islam’s critics merely gives rise to the suspicion that evidence and sound argument cannot show their arguments to be mistaken.

Coincidentally, in the same week that Germany and the World Jewish Congress rejected the idea that defamation of religion is an affront to human dignity, and upheld the right to freedom of expression, Germany’s highest court issued its ruling on a case brought by a Jewish organization, and two Jewish individuals. The court ruled against the right of the United States-based animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals to exhibit posters that juxtapose photographs of victims of the Holocaust with photographs of animals in factory farms and at slaughterhouses.

The posters bear the heading: “To Animals, All People are Nazis” – a line from the Polish-born Jewish writer Isaac Bashevis Singer. According to the court, Germany’s laws on freedom of speech did not protect Peta’s campaign, because to make “the fate of the victims of the Holocaust appear banal and trivial” was an offense against human dignity.

Peta was, of course, not arguing that Holocaust victims’ fate was banal or trivial. On the contrary, it was using the Holocaust – which we would all agree was utterly horrific – to suggest, as Isaac Bashevis Singer did, that there are parallels between the way the Nazis treated Jews and the way we treat animals. The conclusion Peta wants us to reach is that both the Holocaust and the mass confinement and slaughter of animals are horrific. A free society should be open to discussing such a claim.

Irrespective of the merits of Peta’s campaign, however, those who stood up for free speech at the UN human rights council should be able to see that the fact that some forms of speech cause offense is not sufficient reason to censor them. If Peta is not allowed to state its case against our abuse of animals in the way that they judge best, because doing so might offend some people, then criticism of religion could also be prohibited on the same grounds.

If, on the other hand, a religion’s adherents have no right to protection against criticism of their religion, then, even in Germany, Holocaust victims and their descendants (I am one) should not be protected against advertising campaigns that, though not intended to incite hatred or violence, may cause them offence.

by this logic, people should not be able to promote religion because it is an affront to the peaceful lives of atheists and agnostics.

Anti abortion religious groups are a case in point.

Legislating good manners can only lead to its opposite.

Determining what is ‘meant’ seems like a confusing morass to me. Heck, I am religious, and I think free speech should cover even defamation of religions - not necessarily people. But I do think it is immoral. I mean, if you have defamed the religion it is. Saying negative even extremely negative things is not defaming. The word implies false accusations are made.

So it should be legal, but it is immoral.

I guess ‘intent’ would delineate between legal or morality. Such as the Pope is part of the framework of religion, but you couldn’t say “I’m going to kill the Pope” in a public setting. Especially if you are within a conceived striking distance even if you had no intention of doing such. Whereas you could say the Catholic religion needs to be done away with would lie in the area of morality.

Saying you are going to kill the pope is not defamation, it’s a threat, at least potentially.

If the concern is regarding people defaming religion in a way that prevents people from safely of peace of mind and body practicing or adhering to their religion, then I agree; that is a problem.

If, on the other hand, we are talking about people being restricted from personally defaming religion on their own accord non-intrusively against religious practitioners, then no, I don’t agree.

I suppose if one were to say to large numbers of people that Mormons are all pedophiles, I could see making that a legal issue. Sort of along incitement to riot lines.

Here’s an example…

I hold that people surrounding a religious place with protest of religion (even just religion in general) are infringing on the freedom of religious practice without fear of oppression or moral ridicule.

To me, this kind of action is just the same as if people rallied around an African American college and protesting African American rights.

On the flip-side, I hold that if there is a religious group of people standing outside of a given place of science, academics, medicine, or the like, in protest on the grounds of religion, then they are infringing on the rights of the secular sanctity, which such places must have.

This too, is as the above concept of the protest of the African American rights.

I’m pretty sure this is specifically about appeasing extremist muslims.

Using libel or slander is not a right since doing so violates the rights of the one who is slandered. If one is defamed by the Truth, that is not libel or slander by definition and therefore neither is it defamation.

The answer to the real question here is: no, one does not have the right not to be offended.

Ditto.

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Ditto on the ditto.

The UN are pussies that try to suppress things such as revolt and revolution.
Our western government’s main task is to put all people into a state of sleeping while awake.

or consuming while asleep
and working the rest of the time

true.

no one has a “right” to not be offended. you are not harmed by others ideas and words, you are harmed by their actions. that is why forceful actions against another are (and should be) illegal, but forceful words and ideas should not be illegal.

anti-free speech proposals of this sort, masking as altruistic humanitarianism “for the greater good” of the “poor, weak, helpless religous common man”, should wake everyone up to the precarious position that freedom is in… big brother is coming, and the UN is merely the precursor to whatever form it will take in the near future. dont let yourself be fooled by their talk of “protecting the rights” of people who “feel offended by religious “defamation” (i.e. disagreement)”, its a ruse to take away individual liberties from all people, everywhere. the UN, and any government for that matter, doesnt give a crap about your or my or anyone else’s rights, because if they did, proposals of this sort would never happen.

It’s too late!

It is international law!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

There is nothing you can do about it!

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Actually, I wish the U.N. had some real power regarding environmental issues. But that’s a different animal.

just wait, theyre already gearing up to tax every business transaction and step of production in existence with carbon taxes, and not only that, but give you personally an extra tax for every mile you drive in your car, as if you dont pay taxes on your vehicle at sale, every year in registration, on your insurance, and huge taxes for every gallon of gas you buy…

… oh, and of course lets not forget the Life Tax, which will tax you for breathing, since of course, thats a “poison” which is creating global warming coming from your mouth when you exhale…

the US and the UN are well on the way to totalitarian environmental “regulation”, so i dont think you have anything to worry about regarding “environmental issues”.

gotta keep that industry plant or job- and life-sustaining business from being built, after all, wouldnt want to disturb the habitat of some little swamp frogs, now would we?

Simplistic rhetoric is always disappointing to see here.