I put together a thread with some links and a piece of a discussion.
Great, thank you.
What do you mean by “my text“? There are contradictions, but you shelter the contradictory (& controversial) half in the reader’s possible view (a method of detaching preemptively from a controversial implication…plausible deniability).
You know very well (why) they will be put down, Tyler Durden.
The thousands of words I wrote to open the topic with! I’m not saying it’s literary gold, but the only one who has provably read it so far and responded directly to the contents, as opposed to the headline is @futureone .
“The art of fighting without fighting”, don’t know if you noticed that? Tyler Durden would call me a pussy and go home.. Gandhi would be proud though ![]()
There’s a reason anarchy always ends in Mad Max scenarios and that is because there is no central institutional authority or government apparatus to keep people away from acting on their primitive violent impulses.
Violent gangs or mobs of people take over everything going to war against other violent gangs where after enough violent gangs fight each other overtime whatever remaining dominant gang and group of people left standing by themselves becomes the next defacto centralized government structure.
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Conveniently left out the part showing I scanned ya quite enough:
It’s an informal logical fallacy known as weasel words. A kind of sophistry.
My definition of anarchy is not as a replacement system of governance, it’s a mechanism to oppose an unjust one.
What I proposed was not a recipe to build utopia, it was possible counter moves against a system which appears to hold all the cards.
What emerges after that is largely irrelevant in the context, if the system is weakened or change has been incited, then it’s job done.
I’m not taking responsibility for Mel Gibson’s V8. This is just a way to fight, not a permanent way to live..
Yeah but point to something, give me an example, this vague hand-waving doesn’t help, if I don’t know what you are referring to, how can I respond?
I have a saying from my own experiences of life, those that live to see what real anarchy entails will stop being anarchists instantly because actual genuine anarchism is an environment fit only for psychopaths.
Real anarchism is lawless chaos.
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No it’s not. Ask anyone and get many different answers..
I described in the writing exactly what I believe anarchy to be, and the entire thing is based on that..
Jeez, I even provided a detailed list of what it is and isn’t, in the context of the text..
Until you have lived in an lawless environment for yourself you won’t understand.
The idealism of anarchists is nonexistent in such an environment. There is no anarchist environment of greater human cooperation, completely nonexistent in absence.
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No, your making assumptions and Mad Max is revving up the engine again..
This isn’t about lawlessness, it’s about finding mechanisms to combat the hopelessly corrupt system. Why do you think that lawlessness would be the outcome?
After the system has been affected and altered by the suggestions, then you can come along and introduce communism or whatever you like.
It’s got to be better than men who hold a trillion dollars of society’s wealth for bullshitting and taking all the credit..
Anarchy is a teenager’s wet-dream.
A rebelliousness against paternalism and its inability to meet expectations…formed in reference to a metaphysical ideal.
Young males are usually fanatical proponents.
Daddy issues, in short.
Feminization of man coupled by a loss of identity.
Another one who patiently read through everything
yes you’re right, your argument is so solid, how can I disagree. I’m off to X in disgrace..
I don’t read infantile nonsense.
But, please continue to dream of a world with no leaders and no authorities….
You don’t read it but you come to offer your “insight”, which is that I’m an incel and have daddy issues. So glad you’re here..
Not only didn’t you read the text, you didn’t even read the fucking comments..
I never called you an incel, did I?
But…I have experience with “anarchists”….and daddy issues are always what they have.
Absent fathers…inadequate fathers…..boys unable to go through the rites of passage from adolescence to adulthood….due to the decline of paternalism and traditions.
As empire declines…Americanized men-children become disillusioned…. seeking alternatives.
All the ideas they thought were indisputable truths, are proving to be lies….and they seek to overcome the daddy -state that sold them these lies.
But they cannot overcome an abstraction of masculinity, so they become trapped in a perpetual state of adolescence, dreaming of creating their own kingdoms..
Fine. At least I’m attempting to suggest solutions. What are yours?