so what… philosophy is the pursuit of wisdom therefor we don’t ever want to find it so we can continue philosophizing?
couldnt have said it better. i dont think philosophers care about finding the truth as much as they care about furthering their own goals. as far as im concerned we are still in a medieval mentality when it comes to philosophy.
the “enlightement” was only half a joke with people attempting to move forward and no one truly thinking about what the most logical way of doing so would be. and im sure im going to get attacked for being logical but so be it.
If you can argue that wisdom is “100% certainty” and that wisdom is also otherwise known as “logic,” feel free to do so.
Otherwise I don’t see why anyone would attack someone who clearly does not even know what philosophy is.
yea…
thats what 2500+ years of philosophy has shown us. wisdom isnt perfect enough to be used. awesome. im glad you spent all that time reading shit on how to live just so you could be told that people arent really omniscient in the first place. what a profound revelation. im glad that discourages all practicality and purpose of philosophy.
and then you wonder why philosophy degrees arent worth anything.
clever way to be a dick though. congrats.
Considering wisdom is not about perfection, you are just babbling innanely.
And no, I don’t wonder as I don’t have one. You do know what a PhD is, don’t you?
Too bad you left off the clever bit. Congrats.
no personal insults about other posters please…
-Imp
you can at least be objective when dishing out criticism.
wisdom is about truth. weve decided there is no such thing as absolute truth. therefore we have decided there is no absolute wisdom. therefore we can question everything and believe whatever we want. thus we might as well not be philosophizing.
seriously… what the hell do Phd’s have to do with this conversation?
my statement was rhetorical by the way.
No, it’s not necessarily about truth.
We did? I have only postulated that we cannot be certain of whether or not truth is absolute. Whether or not “absolute truth” exists depends a great deal on how the terms are defined.
Again, no. Wisdom =/= Truth
Your logic goes against the accepted “truth” of what qualifies as being wisdom.
OF course you can believe whatever you want. But is that wise to do so? I sure don’t think so.
Well, perhaps you should not be.
In the pursuit of knolwdge the highest degree on can obtain is still called the “philosophy doctorate.” Because we know we don’t know all there is to know, and the lover of knowledge who continues to question what they know earns the letters. They still ask questions.
It was a statement that lacked wisdom, regardless of its rhetorical nature.
Perhaps you should not post in this forum? At least you should adjust your attitude and learn about the basic elements and terms of epistomology.
You lack wisdom, imho.
Yeah
It seems like some people think that Philosophy=Answers, and when you don’t get them, it seems like a waste of time.
But umm…
I would term philosophy as more of an ‘explorative’ subject.
We’ve found certain philosophies which work to our advantage in life, right?
“Look before you Leap”
“Say please and thank you”
etc etc. They’re just taken for granted.
If Colombus didn’t keep sailing, he wouldn’t have come across all those foreign lands, would he?
And he didn’t even know where the hell he was going in the first place!
Like philosophy. Some of us might sail and sail and never find any land!
Some of us will journey and find things noone else will find.
Once again, ahem, an explorative subject.
please… socrates, confucius pick your philosophy and go read that wisdom is a direct relation to truth and understanding. i mean look at your stupid definition
1 a : accumulated philosophic or scientific learning : KNOWLEDGE b : ability to discern inner qualities and relationships : INSIGHT c : good sense : JUDGMENT d : generally accepted belief
knowledge via scientific learning. what do we call scientific understandings? facts or truths. this is the dumbest debate im ever goign to have and go figure its rooted in your fucking ego. i dont want to deal with this i dont care about you and i definately dont care about getting through your desne skull. i dont care. stop.
every conversation ive had about philosophy reverts back to some subjective skepticism or some other bullshit. if youre unaware of the enormous impact those ideas have on philosophy than maybe you shouldnt be posting on this forum seeing as youre way behind the communal understanding of things and are just goign to have to debate this until someone makes it 100% clear to you that youll never be right.
OF course you can believe whatever you want. But is that wise to do so? I sure don’t think so.
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what the hell do you know? who are you even? no one. thats who. what value do your opinions have? have you unconvered the meaning of life? can you unify ethics? can you create world peace? no. you cope with humanity the best any one else can and you do a piss poor job too because it results in egomaniacal classes on internet forums.
what the fuck… no this is what i was saying. there is no point to the pursuit of wisdom and now youre just repeating what i just said. dont pull this shit. you either agree or you disagree. you already picked the opposing side. dont weasal your side onto my side of hte debate.
perhaps you should adjust your attitude and learn how to not come off as an abrassive asshole. it lacks wisdom to piss people off with haughty condescending bullshit.
i dont give a shit about your opinion.
Wow, when did this happen, must have been in the last few minutes.
According to all known polls and history the vast majority of all human kind would strongly disagree. If there is no absolute truth then there is no truth or false, or right or wrong, or good or bad.
Did I misunderstand, or do you really assert that this is TRUE. 
Now you’re on to something.
I’ve already given many examples of logically irrefutable absolutes however. This should at least open the possibility of an absolute truth.
Please link me, or start new forum thread, I’d like to discuss it with you.
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Ahh, full of wisdom you are.
thats whats being taught in philosophy classes as well as preeched in just about all instances. “acceptance” bottom line. not truth.
opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink right?
bottom line of philosophy theres a counter argument for every belief thus you can do whatever the hell you want. hence the topic of this thread. you can disagree all you want but i gurantee you that not everyone agrees with your version of the “truth”. you know that.
still a dick.
Give him a break, he’s a New Yorker. It’s like a gradient of rudeness as you move from West coast to East in the USA. 