Is pornography harmfull?

Ah, you kid. I did inanely attack with my ‘bullshit metaphor’ comment. But in truth I find this a fascinating discussion and so to fuck it up with needless and feckless aggression would be folly of aristocratic proportions.

This is couched in Freudian presumptions but I’ll let it go. Personally I believe boredom is the most powerful driving force in human history, but I’m a mock-Hegelian.

Nonetheless according to Freud the ‘phallic stage’ occurs normally in children of 3 to 6 years of age. This would indicate that, in some sense of the word, most children become sexual, certainly autosexual if not beyond that, by the age of 6. I’m not defending pedophilia, far from it - I’d happily castrate perverts, chemically or otherwise. I’d prefer chemical castration, there’s a comfortable, clean, modernist aesthetic to it.

I don’t see that respective sexual organs are particularly fundamental to gender differentiation. Of course, they are the most obvious anatomical feature, though hermaphrodites (a term that originates in medieval latin but has an obviously Greek connotation) pose a question here. I see gender as being more about temperaments than about anatomy, in it’s more basic and immutable sense.

So will masturbation - no? And if Freud is correct (or the vast majority of sexual researchers) masturbation tends to occur well before the age of 10. Again, I’m not equating a 8 year old’s understanding or appreciation of sex with that of a mature 40 year old but nor am I willing to replicate as strict a definition and distinction as is implied (and only implied) by your comments.

And there is the odd freak, Fortean occurence that throws a total spanner in the works
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Sounds pretty damn cool to me. Sorry to be flip but I got erections when I was a pretty young kid and I’m relatively normal, sexually speaking. Well, within mainstream boundaries, shall we say…

I can see the connection but I don’t see that early puberty is necessarily a bad thing. It has massive cultural implications, sure, but in terms of a necessary connection…

Sure, but all this affects people regardless of whether or not they masturbated at 6 to a picture of some Cuban refugee penetrating a sheep. You do account for this with your closing comment, I suppose.

I think that children’s minds are more flexible in many instances than you are implying. That is not to say that I’m all for libertarian freedom, fuck 12 year olds and horses sort of behaviour or politics, I’m merely questionning the basis for a policy of limitations and censorship.

Sure, I can appreciate this.

So, given that we essentially agree we’re left with the question ‘is this enough to justify a politics?’

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First off, I just took your “bullshit metaphor” to be typical siatd aggression, not necessarily a personal attack … but it is understandably erroneous, if you state your intent was otherwise.

Do I have to answer this question? Really? Because if I answer it honestly, you are going to call me something like “a foul hypocritical git” … and I might just take that offensively.

Fuck it. No, politics/policies never seem to correct these sorts of issues, if anything they encourage a conflagration of the unethical behavior to a far worse degree.

Perhaps my best answer was in the earlier post, because quite honestly there is no belief in rehabilitation, and there has yet to be an instance where a bullet through the back of the skull doesn’t cure any and all “Freudian aberrances”.

Hello F(r)iends,

The human condition… so tragic, wouldn’t you agree Mas?

-Thirst

Mastriani,

I call almost everything that I don’t believe a ‘bullshit metaphor’. That isn’t to say my comment is inaccurate, the relativist in me (like Tibet, not diplomatically significant) says that this whole game called conversationi is composed entirely of such metaphors.

No. If you hadn’t then I wouldn’t have concluded anything from that.

So be it. Love fate.

I don’t see how this makes you foul or hypocritical. You are merely commenting on a situation rather than supporting a politics so to say at this stage that politics is probably a total waste of time if not a way of making the situation worse would seem to be in keeping with everything else that you’ve said so far.

Sadly, I think that you’re right. Like I said, castration is an option for some but in many cases I suppose that such a policy would turn some violent, from perverts into murderers…
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Yes brother thirst, tragic is most certainly the word.

I have no right whatsoever to share my views of pornography , i’m a very sensetive teen , if you didn’t notice , thats becuase i’m wearing my masks alot.it’s not hard to notice why , i have nothing to hide , i’m a pervert and i will agree towards anyone who says i am , because we (all ILP individuals understand this , we like it or not , i know i don’t , i hate my obsessions because i’m not bf material nor do i belong on earth if i’m having trouble trying not lie to the friends i admire (not sexually , even though i only act it).

Your need 4 sex is hard to deal with, but don’t feel guilty about it – remember that long ago human populations on earth were very low and peopled needed to have sex as soon as possible to save the species.

That instinct didn’t die out really.

He made the world a grassy road before our bare, wandering feet,
and crushed the stones into the softest sand between our toes,
but we’re wondering where to sleep,
clever words on pages turn to fragments;
Circles, points and lines, and cover them like carpets, with graceful,
meaningless ornamental designs come quick,
you light that knows no evening
Come, alone to the alone!
There are a thousand half-loves well worth leaving, just to take your madness home,
you dance inside my chest where no on sees you,
but sometimes I see you rejoice, the cleansing of my lips
Rejoice, salvation of my soul!
But I still have a thousand half-loves
(Oh my God! I want to shoot myself just thinking about it)
And you think I don’t mean what I say?
I mean every word I say.
I threw a stone at the reflection of my image in the water,
and it altogether disapperared.
I burst, it shattered me like a bullet through a bottle,
and I’m expected to believe that any of this is real.
MewithoutYou

porn is one of a thousand half-loves, you love them but they don’t return
the feeling and leave you feeling empty afterward.

that won’t stop me from enjoying my half/loves( T.V, Philosophy, Food, Murdering innocent people and fucking peoples minds) i believe in the epicuran sense of life as a pleasure palace of the senses.

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You say its been proven , Can you provide us with the evidence which proves this ?

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herballove.com/
you could read about the subject here, if you like.

Your soul has been killed by capitolist-democracy.
Life is a cheap thrill now for you all, not a meaningful family experience.

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This is,nt evidence

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life is certainly not cheap and thrills are only a part of it.

Maybe I should call life a costly distortion?

it doens matter what you call life(it doesn’t change the fact that the only way out is death)

I’d say lets all make the best of it we can.