Is pornography harmfull?

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Why Is Pornography So Widespread?

LASCIVIOUS material designed to arouse sexual feelings dates back thousands of years. But during much of its history, pornography was difficult to produce and was therefore available primarily to the rich and the ruling classes. Mass printing and the invention of photography and moving pictures changed all that. Pornography became affordable and available to the less affluent.

The development of the videocassette recorder escalated this trend. Unlike cinema reels and old photographs, videocassettes were easy to store, copy, and distribute. They also allowed for private viewing at home. Recently, the proliferation of cable systems and the Internet has made pornography even more readily available. The consumer who is afraid that his neighbor will see him in the adult section of a video store can now “stay at home and order by pushing a button on his cable system, or his direct TV,” says media analyst Dennis McAlpine. Easy access to this kind of programming has, according to McAlpine, contributed to “a lot more acceptability.”

Many are ambivalent toward pornography because it has now entered the mainstream. “It is already a vastly bigger cultural presence than all our opera, ballet, theatre, music and fine art put together,” says writer Germaine Greer. Modern attitudes toward pornography may be reflected by the ‘prostitute-chic’ fashions many celebrities sport, the music videos that increasingly flaunt sexual imagery, and the advertising media’s adoption of a “porno aesthetic.” McAlpine concludes: “Society is accepting what is being spoon-fed to it. . . . That’s helping create the idea that all of this is good.” As a result, “people don’t seem to have a sense of outrage,” laments author Andrea Dworkin. “They don’t seem to care.”

Echoing author Dworkin’s comments, retired FBI agent Roger Young points out that many people “just don’t see the big picture of obscenity and the problems that it causes.” Some are swayed by those who defend pornography, claiming that there is no proof that pornographic images have a negative effect on people. “Pornography is fantasy after all,” writes author F. M. Christensen, “a fact that its opponents seem to have difficulty keeping in focus.” But if fantasy has no power, then upon what is the advertising industry based? Why would corporations spend millions of dollars producing commercials, videos, and printed ads if they have no lasting impact on people?

The fact is that like all successful advertising, pornography’s main purpose is to create appetites where none existed before. “Pornography is about profits, pure and simple,” write researchers Steven Hill and Nina Silver. “And in this marketplace gone amok, anything is considered an exploitable and expendable resource, particularly women’s bodies and human sexual relations.” Greer compares pornography to highly addictive fast food, devoid of nutrition and laced with taste-enhancing additives and chemicals. “Commercial fast sex,” she says, “is fake sex . . . Food advertising sells fantasy food and sex advertising sells fantasy sex.”

Some doctors claim that pornography can spark an addiction that is far more difficult to overcome than drug addiction. Treatment for drug addicts usually starts with detoxification to remove the substance from the body. But addiction to pornography, explains Dr. Mary Anne Layden of the University of Pennsylvania, “produces mental imagery which is permanently implanted in the mind of the user and is scaled in by brain chemistry.” That is why individuals can vividly recall pornographic images from years past. She concludes: “This is the first addictive substance for which there is no hope for detoxification.” But does that mean it is impossible to break free from pornography’s influence? And what specific harm does pornography cause?

Internet Pornography Facts

* About 75 percent of Internet pornography originates in the United States. Close to 15 percent originates in Europe.
* It is estimated that some 70 million people a week visit pornographic Web sites. About 20 million of these users are in Canada and the United States.
* A study revealed that during a recent one-month period, Germany had the largest audience for on-line pornography in Europe, followed by Great Britain, France, Italy, and Spain.
* In Germany, Internet pornography users spend an average of 70 minutes each month viewing pornographic sites.
* Among European viewers of Internet pornography, those above 50 years of age spend the most time connected to adult Web sites.
* According to one source, 70 percent of Internet pornography traffic occurs during the day.
* It is estimated by some that 100,000 Internet sites include material on child pornography.
* About 80 percent of the Internet's commercial child pornography originates in Japan.

The Harm Pornography Causes

SEXUAL material of all kinds is easily accessible through television, movies, music videos, and the Internet. Is this relentless intrusion of pornographic, sexualized imagery harmless, as many would have us believe?*

Despite what its defenders say, pornography has profoundly negative effects on people’s views of sex and sexual behavior. Researchers at the National Foundation for Family Research and Education concluded that “exposure to pornography puts viewers at increased risk for developing sexually deviant tendencies.” According to the report, “the rape myth (belief that women cause and enjoy rape, and that rapists are normal) is very widespread in habitual male users of pornography.”

Some researchers say that the repeated use of pornography can interfere with the ability to enjoy and participate in normal marital intimacy. Dr. Victor Cline, a specialist in treating sex addiction, has noticed a recurring progression in the use of pornography. If left unchecked, what starts as casual viewing of pornography can eventually lead to an escalation to more hard-core, aberrant material. This, he claims, can lead to deviant sexual acts. Behavioral scientists agree. Dr. Cline reports that “any type of sexual deviation can be acquired in this way . . . and that it cannot be eliminated even by massive feelings of guilt.” Eventually, the viewer may try to act out the pornography-based, immoral fantasies, often with devastating results.

The course of this problem may be gradual and undetected, concluded Cline. He states: “Like a cancer, it keeps growing and spreading. It rarely ever reverses itself, and it is also very difficult to treat and heal. Denial on the part of the male addict and refusal to confront the problem are typical and predictable, and this almost always leads to marital or couple disharmony, sometimes divorce, and sometimes the breaking up of other intimate relationships.”

“Some researchers say that exposure to pornography can affect the natural development of a child’s brain.”

Statistics show that the primary consumers of pornography are boys between the ages of 12 and 17. In fact, for many, pornography is their primary source of sexual education. This has very disturbing ramifications. “Teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases like AIDS,” notes one report, “are completely nonexistent in porn, giving a false belief that there are no adverse consequences to behaviors depicted in pornography.”

Some researchers say that exposure to pornography can also affect the natural development of a child’s brain. Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education, concludes: “Health-based neurological observations about the instinctual brain-imprinted response to pornographic sights and sounds indicates that viewing pornography is a biologically significant event that overrides informed consent—and that is harmful to children’s [moldable] ‘plastic’ brains because it compromises their grasp of reality and thus their mental and physical health, their well-being and their pursuit of happiness.”
The Effects on Relationships

Pornography shapes attitudes and influences behavior. Its messages are enticing primarily because they are fantasy and thus presented as more exciting than the real thing. (See the box “Which Message Will You Accept?”) “Individuals using pornography set themselves up for unrealistic expectations leading to damaged relationships,” notes one report.

Pornography can destroy trust and openness, essential qualities in a marriage. Because it is primarily viewed in secret, pornography use often leads to deception and lying. Mates feel betrayed. They do not understand why their marriage partner no longer finds them desirable.
Spiritual Harm

Pornography use causes serious spiritual damage. It can become a real impediment for an individual seeking to have a relationship with God.# The Bible links sexual appetite with covetousness and idolatry. (Colossians 3:5) The one coveting something desires it so much that it becomes the dominant thing in his life, eclipsing everything else. In essence, those addicted to pornography put their sexual desire above God. They thus make an idol of it. Jehovah God’s command states: "You must not have any other gods against my face."—Exodus 20:3.

Pornography destroys loving relationships. The apostle Peter, himself a married man, urged Christian husbands to assign honor to their wives. A husband who fails to do so will find that his prayers to God are hindered. (1 Peter 3:7) Would secretly viewing indecent images of women be treating one’s own wife honorably? How would she feel if she found out? And what would the God who will bring “every sort of work into the judgment” and who makes “an estimate of spirits” think? (Ecclesiastes 12:14; Proverbs 16:2) Could one who uses pornography have any reason to expect that his prayers would be listened to by God?

The insistence on selfish gratification at all costs is inherent in pornography use. Hence, viewing pornography is unloving. It undercuts a Christian’s fight to maintain chastity and a clean moral standing before God. “This is what God wills,” wrote the apostle Paul, "that you abstain from fornication; that each one of you should know how to get possession of his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in covetous sexual appetite . . . , that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother."—1 Thessalonians 4:3-7.

Pornography especially exploits women and children. It demeans them and robs them of their dignity and rights. One who uses pornography participates in and supports that exploitation. “No matter how good a . . . man thinks he is,” point out researchers Steven Hill and Nina Silver, “his tacit approval of pornography makes him at best [insensitive], at worst misogynistic, toward the very person he professes to care about.”
Getting Help

The struggle to break free from pornography should not be underestimated; it may be a difficult battle. Says Dr. Victor Cline, who has treated hundreds of sex addicts: “Promises don’t work. Good intentions mean nothing. [A sex addict] literally cannot do this by himself.” A prerequisite to successful treatment, according to Cline, is involving the mate, if the person is married. “It goes faster if both are involved,” he claims. “Both are wounded. Both need help.”

If the person is single, often a trusted friend or family member can be a pillar of strength. Regardless of who is involved in the treatment, Cline has one unalterable rule: Talk openly about the problem and any relapses. “Secrets ‘kill you’,” he says. “They create shame and guilt.”
Breaking Free of the Pornography Habit

What if you are presently struggling with an addiction to pornography? Can anything be done to break free? The Bible provides hope! Before coming to know Christ, some of the early Christians had been fornicators, adulterers, and greedy persons. “But you have been washed clean,” noted Paul. How was that possible? He answered: "You have been sanctified . . . with the spirit of our God."—1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Never underestimate the power of God’s holy spirit. “God is faithful,” the Bible says, “and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.” Indeed, he will provide the way out. (1 Corinthians 10:13) Fervent prayer—persistently setting your problem before God—will produce results. His Word encourages: "Throw your burden upon Jehovah himself, and he himself will sustain you."—Psalm 55:22.

Of course, you have to act in harmony with your prayers. You need to make a deliberate and heartfelt decision to reject pornography. A trusted friend or family member can be an invaluable aid, providing needed support and encouragement to stick to your resolve. (See the box “Getting Help.”) Remembering that such a course of action is sure to please God can help you stay committed to your course. (Proverbs 27:11) In addition, knowing that your viewing pornography offends God can also serve as an added impetus to giving it up. (Genesis 6:5, 6) It will not be an easy struggle, but it is one that can be won. The pornography habit can be broken!

The dangers of using pornography are real. It is harmful and destructive. It corrupts those who produce it and those who use it. It is an insult to men and women, a danger to children, and a practice that should be rejected.

  • For a detailed discussion of the dangers of Internet pornography, please see the series of articles entitled “Internet Pornography—What Harm Can It Do?” in the June 8, 2000, issue of Awake! pages 3-10.

For a discussion of the Bible’s view of pornography, please see the July 8, 2002, issue of Awake! pages 19-21.

Which Message Will You Accept?
Pornography’s Message

The Bible’s View

Sex with anyone, anytime, under any circumstances, and in any way is good and has no negative consequences.

"Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers."—Hebrews 13:4.

"He that practices fornication is sinning against his own body."—1 Corinthians 6:18; see also Romans 1:26, 27.

Marriage is an obstacle to sexual fulfillment.

"Rejoice with the wife of your youth . . . With her love may you be in an ecstasy constantly."—Proverbs 5:18, 19; see also Genesis 1:28; 2:24; 1 Corinthians 7:3.

Women have only one purpose—to satisfy the sexual needs of men.

"I [Jehovah God] am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him."—Genesis 2:18; see also Ephesians 5:28.

Men and women are slaves to their sexual urges.

"Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry."—Colossians 3:5.

"Each one of you should know how to get possession of his own vessel in sanctification and honor."—1 Thessalonians 4:4.

View the "older women as mothers, younger women as sisters with all chasteness."—1 Timothy 5:1, 2; see also 1 Corinthians 9:27.[/u]

Porno is suffering, hiding behind pleasure.

dan, that’s one of the most intelligent things i’ve ever heard you say. i may have to quote that one day.

I don’t agree. Going around horny all day is not good. It even been proven that cuming at least twice a week is important to keeping your self healthy down there.

So if you don’t have a girl you have to masturbate. Why does it matter what you look at when you masturbating? How do I suffer more from looking at porn then I would using the images in my head. I just don’t see where the suffering coming from. Now if it becomes addiction then there a problem but anything can be a problem if it becomes addiction.

Now if you want to argue that young ladies are suffering because by becoming porn stars you might have a case but I don’t see how watching porn causes the watcher to suffer in any way.

Hiding I dont get it what am I hiding from? from being horny all day?

Can I get a gong?

I’m not saying the message here is wrong, but you should question what you read.

Is pornography harmful…?

  • Only if a whole bunch of it lands on your head.

Having worked in a adult book store for 6 months,
I believe that porn is not harmful in of itself.
If you already have “issues”, porn will just bring
those “issues” out.
Said another way, if you are a sick puppy, porn will
just be the focus of that, not the cause.
Most people with problems, have them already,
long before they ever see porn.

Kropotkin

The harmful thing about pornography isn’t its depiction of physical acts or its caricaturing of lascivious needs – although even this is a degradation of privacy -, it is mostly its symptomatic reference to a social and cultural trend that makes it disturbing.

Pornography represents the end result of a cultural phenomenon that has made sex into just another entertainment device and has made intimacy into a public spectacle to be shared by all or flaunted as proof of self-worth.
The mystique is shattered along with the severity and it seeks out contentment in hyperbole, as the mundane often does.

Sex ceases to be an act of procreation, creating gender roles and leading to life altering circumstances, and becomes a show for performers where penetrated and penetrator become interchangeable and determined only by a matter of taste, and where members and orifices can be swapped and experimented with, in pursuit of higher pleasures or, perhaps, of greater and greater objectification.

The triviality of sex, as it has become nothing more than a means towards pleasure, is exemplified by its decline into an inflated fantasy, where one lives vicariously through the participants, and into another form of escapism from ones own ordinary and often deficient existence.
The fantasy cannot be reached, thusly creating the necessity for more and more of it as the average seek to escape themselves in the depiction of the extraordinary or the depiction of the unreal.
Flesh trying to lose itself, run from itself, using the other.

As with all fantasy, repeated enough times and shared by enough people, and it becomes a shared reality, as the voyeur seeks to imitate what is depicted and perceives it as being ideal.

Pornography is also a symptom of consumerism and the loss of distinction and identity within social constructs and the institutionalization it produces.

Pornography objectifies the act, makes the experience purchasable and so just another consumer good feeding a market; another product anyone can buy and own and experience.
It does not only objectify women, by making them inflatable flesh-dolls with enhanced parts to be used and discarded, but it also objectifies men who become performers - thusly judged by their performance’, and a mere penis detached from the body, but also from the act itself which it performs mechanically and with little interest in the partner beyond her many holes.

Look mha! I’m laughin’, I’m laughin’!
:laughing:

@ Satyr, yeah, porn is like a mad-cow report. It’s like a wasp stinging the same spot twice. Our culture is screwed!

Wait, wait… what’s that word?.. Dunno if there’s a word for this:
Sensations and memories of events or concepts combine.
The “meaning” of anything can be reprogrammed.
Shoot! I had something on the tip of expression then I couldn’t put it into words, but it touches our entire state of being and our reaction to life itself! It’s the difference between satisfaction and suicide! It’s cultural to! Ingrained patterns all around us! Monkey-see-monkey-do-on-its-way-down-to-hell. That kinda thing. Like a black hole of human focus! Like a plauge of appeal and advertisement! Like a swarm of locusts consuming and squadering natural and even non-renewable resources! Like a moron-march towards a open wood-chipper? Head or dick first, depends which one was idolized.

Can’t put it into words…

More studies here^.

Turns out it does increase “agression towards women”.

But, listening to rock music also increases “agression” (towards everybody).

So???

Well, I say:
“Pornography is harmful” arguments were invented by moralists who think that sexual immorality is harmful to them, because the immorality is attached to the concept of God’s punishment, therefor the moralists search for evidence supporting their original premise.

But, Porn makes people want to fuck; that’s generally it, IMO.

“No fucking!” ~(Shakespeir)
lo.

All this fucking causes problems. The medias promotion of a sexually casual lifestyle to minors doesn’t help the AIDS/STD epidemic. I don’t know anyone who will say that it’s better off for a teenage girl to get pregnant and for a guy to knock up a teenage girl than it is for them get pregnant at all. Yes, protected sex within a monogamous relationship is fine. It’s too bad people don’t know how to use a condom on properly.

That porn addiction is so true. I’ve seen alot of kids in my high school class get screwed up becuase of porn and masterbation. They addicted to it. They can’t even go one fucking day without it. And when my best friend who was super horny all the time and masterbated at least 10 times a week actually lost his virginity, he said it wasn’t even that great. He had desensitized himself to sexual pleasure at an early age so he wasn’t even able to enjoy his first.

Drift,

Just for the sake of mental exercise I’ve decided to pull apart the article that you’ve provided. Personally I think that it’s bunk. There are dangers that come with a pornographic culture but this article overlooks them.

Funny how the consumer of porn is always, without fail, characterised as male. Women do watch porn too, you know…

You still aren’t allowed to show an erect penis on TV. Until you can, I’d say that porn is legally excluded from the mainstream. Funny, woman can be as aroused as they like on TV but men have to keep it covered up. Even an advert depicting a man with a large horn (like a medieval warrior might blow before going into battle) down his trousers was removed due to complaints.

Who is notorious for speaking total bullshit about pornography and this is merely another example. More money is spent on music (by a country mile) than is spent on porn. Think of all the ringtone downloads…

Right, so what job is it of the Jehova’s Witness minority to tell them that they should care?

The desire to increase sales, which is very, very real.

A false analogy, a TV advert doesn’t bear the same relation to it’s product as porn does to sex.

This is clearly true of some aspects of pornographic culture. To brand all porn in this way is ignorant and futile.

You are aware that men appear in pornography too. Quite often. In fact, unless you’re into niche market porn the ‘money shot’ is impossible without treating the male body (in particular male ejaculate) as an expendable resource. My guess is that the writer of this article has never, ever watched pornography and therefore has absolutely no idea what they’re on about.

Two people fuck in front of a camera. A couple of people film it. Where’s the fantasy? This is such a spurious, unsupported claim.

And some doctors (including my GP) say that it is harder to give up smoking cigarettes than to give up smoking crack, so some doctors are clearly morons. Just because a doctor says something doesn’t mean that there’s any evidence to back it up.

This is merely an assumption for which there is no proof. I’ve seen brains be sliced open before (there was a live autopsy on TV a few years back) and I didn’t see any images burnt into that mind. That this Dr uses metaphors like ‘implanted’ and ‘scaled’ demonstrates just how specious this sort of neuroscience is. But that’s all to do with with neuroscientists never bothering to study the philosophy of mind…

wow, like, I can also remember a certain goal that I scored while playing football when I was 8 years old, this image must be dangerous and I must stop playing football and stop others playing football too.

Child porn is sick, though problems arise when in some countries a 14 year old is considered sufficiently adult to consent to sex (and presumably to being filmed and photgraphed) whereas in others it is as high as 21.

‘Intrusion’ - ? No one is forcing this moron to read pornographic magazines, in fact I reckon that the writer has never read a pornographic magazine, not even while researching this article.

By ‘very widespread’ I think that we can safely assume that a woman did this research and did it in such a cackhanded way that the result is totally disconnected from the data, as with almost all research into this sort of thing. Some women do enjoy rape, as do some men. Just like some people like being savagely assaulted (indeed, there’s little difference between the two). There’s a lot of ill-formed beliefs out there. For the writer of this article (clearly an idiotic and presumptuous cretin who hasn’t bothered to check any of this out) to criticise others for holding unfounded and stupid beliefs is hypocritical.

Like wow, I’d never thought of that before. This really is earth-shattering stuff, isn’t it?

Yeah, just like calling manhole covers ‘manhole covers’ can make someone into a raving patriarch, according to ‘scientists’…

Exactly, they ‘may’ do this. They may do it anyway…

Once again, females consume porn too…

Relationships split up all the time for all sorts of reasons. If we were to eliminate all the causes of the breaking down of relationships then we’d get rid of almost everything on which relationships are founded in the first place.

I’m assuming that these researchers have actually forced pornography onto developing children, clockwork orange style, and measured the results, in which case they are the immoral bastards, not the average consumers of porn…

So now the article is blaming porn for not being sex education. Besides, in most European porn they use barrier contraception (i.e. condoms) as an industry standard.

I can’t help but think that the article has already included this sentence.

Wow, the porn is infringing on these children’s constitutional rights. Who is this Reisman and how did she get this job? If it was by making claptrap statements like this about ‘reality’ and ‘the pursuit of happiness’ then the IME isn’t worth much.

All fantasy leads to unrealistic expectations (though I’m struggling to understand what is meant by ‘fantasy’ here). Once again, if we get rid of all fantasies for producing unrealistic expectations then…

See above.

Here we see the real reason for the writer’s dislike of porn/porn culture.

Ditto

No, it’s inherent in masturbation, porn is merely an extension of this. The writer is actually objecting to masturbation.

Ditto.

And here we see the matriarchal/patriarchal bullshit once more.

And again…

And again, as though sex addiction only affects males…

This is such crap. I’ve no objection to discussing this issue but this article is full of unsupported assertions and sexist presumptions.

Time to clean out the loft…

I’m only going to address one part of this, in particular … for the rest, an addict is an addict, and as long as there desires do not affect their social behavior, then it is their business … if it does bleed out into a social sphere … treat them the same way you should treat any addict … a bullet through the back of the skull does wonders for addiction.

Wisened old monkey man and siatd:

No offense gentlemen, but you are delving into an area, with respect to children, where your knowledge is limited, if not absent … no offense.

My middle child is not mine biologically. I’ll keep this dry and limited, it tends to incite rage. He suffered “abuse” before I adopted him. It has completely distorted his psychological makeup … affecting his self-esteem, moral foundation, and ability to interact socially in a “normal context”, (don’t go there, we all understand the normalcy fallacy).

He was never physically violated, but was exposed at an early age to open acts of adult sexuality and pornography … his puberty started at nine … which is a direct side effect of these events. He has also been a case study, and this is the most used manner of finding these results for these studies.

He is a definitive threat as a sexual predator, so the idea that “pornography doesn’t cause the problem”, is utter bullshit. It may not always be the case, but it certainly can be the case. He objectifies females, he has no respect for them or their authority, (again don’t go there, in my house disrespect of a female tends to end badly for anyone), and sees them as implements for his devices.

It pays to have experience in a given area, even ones with negative outcomes.

The other side of this is just straight empiricism: The formative years of development are from neonatal to around six to seven, with the first two years being most important, and the next three, (generally), are the social interactive development years.

A young child exposed to something such as pornography, which actually alters body chemistry, has permanent, and often devastating, effects.

Precisely how does pornography directly affect the chemical make-up of a young child?

All of what you’ve said may well be true, but I never condoned giving young children pornography, I simply disputed the arguments used in the article and the implicit principles on which it is founded.

The truth is that regardless of formative years or whatever other bullshit psychological schematic metaphor you wish to use, people can be deeply affected at any age by any number of things. The truth is also that there are other people with symptoms like your adopted son who have developed them due to different reasons. There’s no one to one connection between pornography and misogyny…

Ultimately, porn trivializes intimacy. (thank you, Satyr) That in itself is enough to see it negatively. That it can contribute to all sorts of psychological problems is also understood. But wherever an individual is, from complete addict to casual observer, the results are almost always harmful.

What is the difference between “recreational” use of a drug and total addiction? Just the quantity. Even deadly poisons can be endured in small quantities.

Porn is a poison that takes the individual directly away from their initial desires which is intimacy. Instead of learning how to deal with all the variables inside an intimate relationship, porn allows the individual to objectify and externalize those desires.

Porn alienates the individual, both from themselves and others.

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This is why you have my admiration. You disagree with what is said, and not trivialise through inanely attacking. Thank you.

Well good man siatd, let’s take this from a purely empirical view of biochemical physiology.

Sexual stimuli is one of the most vigorous biochemical processes in the body, next to perhaps fear.

Even though a child may not be cognisant of the parameters of sexual activity from a logical perspective, they are still observers, and observation is the first stage of stimuli.

Though not sexually mature for procreation, all the necessary components are already in place. I’m certain you agree we don’t grow into our testicles or ovaries, they are there, though latent … to a degree. That a body is not ready for the procreative processes does not mean that those organs that are involved are entirely without activity. If they were completely latent, gender differentiation of children would be quite difficult, until they were stripped of all clothing.

Supplying any mind with sexual stimuli, will activate the natural hormones and endorphins that are intended to occur. These chemicals are not isolated to the brain, they are part of the blood network, i.e. siatd’s eyes see a heavenly female form, (whatever that may be in your view), your brain translates those images into chemical information, releases endorphins into your system, including a degree of adrenaline, your heartrate rises, your testicles become stimulated, releasing the male hormone testosterone, you get an erection, and your prostate becomes busy with semen development activity.

The fact that a male child’s “equipment” isn’t ready to go to the extent of creating procreation material, is not limited by age. The more these instances occur, and the more these chemicals are introduced to the system, the more the body begins to assume it is ready to start procreating. This encourages early puberty.

The inherent problem is, the child’s mind before puberty has not been chemically “rewired” for the adult logic methods, so a confusion is created. Feeling stimulated sexually, without the logic to understand that is what is going on, is an impossible conundrum for one so young. Then the aberrances begin with fear, possibly anger, depression, insecurities, feelings of oddness, dirtyness, etc, etc.

The end being that giving/forcing this stimuli on a child activates processes that are not intended to occur until such time as the mind can adequately relate. This then, is where the damage occurs.

If necessary, it is likely you can be found some “internets sites” with relevant information … for being “internets sites”.

In my sons case, all other possibilities have been ruled out by default, misogyny does not occur in my presence. Although it is possible that there was a genetic predisposition towards the behavior, that would be far harder to prove/accept.

You should notice I was clear that pornography is not always the precursor of such behaviors … I clearly stated that it has been show that it definitely can be the impetus.

Hello F(r)iends,

  1. I think pornography can be harmful, but not necessarily.
  2. Alcohol can be harmful, but not necessarily.
  3. Current politics tend to dismiss anything that has a potentially harmful effect like…
  4. Alcohol/drugs, pornography/prostitution, movies/TV, rock/rap,–all allowed to influence children.
  5. Liberals, atheists, and the like, derride the effect of these “subtle” influences.
  6. But you will see them marching the street to keep prayers out of schools…

-Thirst

May 11, 2006

Hello tentative and All,

There is nothing evil in itself. It’s too easy to condemn things like porn, drugs, etc. and miss the true poison or ‘evil’ in mind (misguidedness, confusion) that I sense you probably understand despite your words and expression. You said “Porn alienates the individual, both from themselves and others”. My elaborated interpretation is: It is our involvement in sex without the highest of Love that suppresses the expression of that Love within us that is our True Self, and prevents us from loving the highest Love in others and receiving the highest Love from them in return. Simply put, indulgence in porn can make you a bump on a log, hehehe.

I love Tabula Rasa’s humour in his “Is pornography harmful…? Only if a whole bunch of it lands on your head.” One needs to laugh at anything; life is too serious to be taken seriously. I do not condone porn, but recognize its existence is a fact of life that is only a symptom of degeneration, or humanity’s compulsion to fall into a temporary or permanent state of spiritual death through complacent enjoyment of pleasure. One may try to justify this enjoyment of pleasure without true love by emphasizing the physical beauty of sex.

I have had a weakness for porn and all the levels of beauty of women since age 16. It is only recently that I seem to have been able to ‘turn my back’ on it most of the time. For a healthy person, I believe this is only possible if one has a true love and appreciation for ALL aspects of one’s partner in life PLUS a commitment to expressing the highest creative aspects of one’s nature. To diminish the pain of further failure, one should not delude oneself that one can become completely free of addiction, even when the perceived causes are removed. I believe ‘once an addict, always an addict’. “If you would be strong, know (and never forget) your weakness”.

It is not porn but my weakness for it that can harm me. But I am too ‘smart’ or conscious to allow it to destroy me. Fear, worry and depression are the open doors leading to obsessive addiction for the mind that is conscious of good (the former name and root of the word ‘God’). To understand the reason for those open doors is to understand the cause of mental illness, which most of us are subject to to some degree. My ‘power’ or noble resolve returns when I see the futility and waste of addiction; when I see my wife who loves me crying in helplessness; when I think of all my friends who I believe need me, including my pot-addicted genius jazz guitarist friend; and perhaps the most thought-provoking thing one comes to witness in viewing porn videos: the low language and behaviour of ‘porn stars’ or ‘false prophets of sex’ with a ‘pretense of sexuality’. This last thing forces me to turn my mind away, because these ‘lost souls’ are not going where I am going, and vice versa. The ultimate low is of course found in snuff films, the existence of which is disputed. I refer you to the book, “Gods of Death” by Yaron Svoray, who writes of Robert De Niro’s viewing of a snuff film on the premise that he might buy it for $85,000; he was doing research for a role and apparently did not buy the film, just wanted to see it. To be able to stomach the viewing of a film that allegedly showed a lady being dismembered alive indicates a real lack of compassion. “The feeling is so good, it makes everything else seem so trivial, so stupid,” a filmmaker identified only as Raymond A. told Yaron Svoray. “Can you understand this moment of sheer joy? I am God. I decide if she lives or dies.” I only perused the book in the bookstore; it’s good that such a book exists for information purposes.

In the midst of the seemingly great outward beauty of porn is a tremendous waste of human potential. As Dan says above, “Porno is suffering, hiding behind pleasure.” As The Gnostic Gospel of Thomas states: ‘If you bring forth that which is within you, then that which is within you will give you life. If you do not bring forth that which is within you, then that which you do not bring forth will destroy you’. In other words, if the consciousness of Love and Truth that lies within all is not allowed to bring a balance, thus effectively ‘curing’ mental illness or imbalance and all its ramifications, Nature takes us out one way or the other.

On the topic of porn ‘corrupting people’, Peter Kropotkin states it well above: “Having worked in a adult book store for 6 months, I believe that porn is not harmful in of itself.
If you already have “issues”, porn will just bring those “issues” out. Said another way, if you are a sick puppy, porn will just be the focus of that, not the cause. Most people with problems, have them already, long before they ever see porn.” “A man is led the way he wishes to follow”. (Huna, Talmud: Makkkot) The idea that porn can corrupt kids is rubbish. To most kids it will mean nothing until the age of puberty.

For those who don’t have a partner, perhaps the ideal is to fantasize you have one while satisfying your desire. For those sensitive, idealistic and reflective types who think celibacy is a ‘solution’, I offer: Jesus utters a veiled reference to the spiritual death of both ascetics and hedonists in Matthew 15:4: “For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Father and mother are figurative, and mean one’s inner and outer natures (spirit and emotion).

Porn in itself is not harmful; it is only a symptom of the harm that we are doing to ourselves; a symptom of human waste.

Love,

Luxin
luxin729y@yahoo.ca