Is the universe a life form?

For the universe to qualify as a life form, all we have left to prove is that the universe can reproduce somehow.

Does the universe being born add enough merit to the idea that it reproduces?

I sugget Lee Smolin’s “Life Of The Cosmos” Where he formulates a Darwinian theory of the universe… good read.

If an earthworm is cut in two both sides will live and grow as two seperate worms. With all that is in the universe and that incluse that which we do not know and what is out side of the universe, Yes I would say The universe is a life form.

Dan~,

Reproduces in what fashion? You’re presenting a construct without definition. ???

No it isnt

Im afraid that i would have to simply disagree overall, we do use the words “life forms”, and “living things” to qualitatively describe what we as humans can understand, extending this form of classification to the very medium that supports our existance is only showing us our own limitations. Objects that we consider dead or alive may appear to us as having a very distinct set of characteristics not in anyway interchangeble with one another. And from all experience it is safe for us to classify things as living or dead. However to exemplify my reasoning, I ask you to acknowledge the fact that you consist completly of atoms. Are atoms alive? rocks consist of atoms yet they are not classified as such. The classification of interacting systems of matter are not absolute, they are created to help us understand that which we can not. The universe is neither dead nor alive, these catagorizing systems are not adequate when attempting to explain large concepts. The universe cannot abide to this classification as a definitive answer. Any attempt to subject it to such an assumption does not answer anything, for it can only lead to a cyclical argument.

um…

Well, during the BigBang, within the fifth dimension all possible outcomes of the BigBang exist in the exverse of our fourth dimension, single universe’s time.

One of these almost-infinite other universes which exist in the realm of potentiality will cause another BigBang.

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It’s like our universe has* almost infinite tries at reproducing itself, and one of these methods has to work, even if the rest of the tries do not work.

There is toooo much we don’t know. Scientists have only studied for a realitively short time and studies often get refuted and or changed by new information. I would not dismiss the unknowable, the future has yet to show itself, in the future lies more knowledge that may prove things wrong or lacking. So yes it is possible the universe can be a life form. Heck we have microscopic and sub microscopic parasites, germs, viruses, living in us and on us. We are their universe.

You sweet little sceptic you! :laughing:

Yeah. We don’t even know for sure whether the universe is finite.

It is. What’s next?

It isn’t. What then?

The point is that we are unable to form a proper concept of the universe (as a whole), in order to use it other than poetically in discourse.

Wait a minute… Rewucki ? I owed you a reply in the Jabberwocki thread… God, I totally forgot, sorry 'bout that. I’ll get on it.

Well in my own body I am a godess with dominion over everything.
I even think I have the equivelent of earth floating around, Its somewhere near the bladder area or bowels :laughing:

Seriously though, if our bodies are a universe to such little critturs it is entirely possible that we are mere parasites or germs or viruses. Think of how our bodies look when viewed through a microscope.

I just don’t want to be around when it sneezes us out.

Natural Sciences:

  • don’t strive for knowing for sure
  • don’t stop at “we don’t know”
  • adhere logical reasoning
  • form hypotheses
  • and test them

This is not Creative Writing and I straighforwardly pointed the two directions a discourse might take.

No prob.

:astonished:

nasty.

We’re too small to be noticed.

1 little galaxy of the many
about 100 billion stars in that one little galaxy
many planets orbiting around the stars.

Earth is a tiny nothing.

The universe doesn’t have much reason to worry about humanity.

And supposing God made the universe?
Then God doesn’t give a damn about our planet at all, I’m guessing.

John 3:16 (KJV)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Geez Dan could you maybe cheer up, we are not insignificant to ourselves and that is what truly counts.

Why would the universe Worry about us in the first place? Unless we start colonizing like bunnies or cockroaches on different planets. Then we would be like a cold germs spreading throughout the body.

And How the devil would I know what god thinks? He hasn’t returned my calls. The secretary keeps telling me he is out of town. :laughing: :laughing:

too small to be noticed by whom?

Size is so relative, we are important at the same time that we are unimportant. We are huge compared to germs, we are small compared to the universe that we know of. The universe we know off is probably small compared to what else it is made up off.

Size goes in many directions, we are just caught in the middle, or maybe we are not in the middle. :slight_smile:

Can’t see any pic.

RESPECT

I have not had enough coffee yet to jump my brain into first gear, so I apologize for not understanding your post. Could you explain to this fuzzy brain what you mean? :astonished: :smiley: