In the world of people making arguments and then talking about whether those arguments are good ones or bad ones, there’s this whole trend of accepting that in one way or another certain arguments might lead to some kind of knowledge of something, as they intend to prove, or illustrate, or deduct or whatever, something.
But I’ve seen it a million times. Just about the moment when someone has nearly convinced me that the only logical thing I can believe is that the sky is purple or I’m not real, out of nowhere I realize that everything they said can be turned back one way or another to literally lead to an opposite conclusion in spite of all this reasoning being about the same objects in the same world.
So what does that mean? Either I’m wrong, and some arguments can’t be reversed as I’m saying, as in turned around to lead to an opposite conclusion, OR, all of them can be and there’s nothing to be gained from even going back and fourth about certain kinds of things because it doesn’t do anything exhibit some kind of skill on the part of the arguer which may or may not even be related to finding out the truth of any given matter.
Am I making any sense here? Any ideas on how we could argue for something in a way such that our argument wouldn’t also imply, or allow inference of some conclusion other than the one we originally argued for?
Can one achieve something useful by arguing or debate . May be winner will get applaud.By that does his concluded theory become fact in real. Nope , but surely for people who accept it , that will be the world.
It doesn’t matter who say what. You have existed , your will is to exist.Then why hesitate?
How you maintain your existence, should be the matter of question.
That question is pushed to Answer , where a term called ETHICS becomes evaluation part of the conclusion.
EXISTENCE AND ETHICS :
As dizzy say, Getting knowledge is not wrong but , what way you use it , is what important.
What way do you want to exist , and in what environment do you want to exist.
May be where Brahmin educated class lives.Why ?
A society where each and every one are trusted, and expected the same from the other.
Country , culture concept is build to help a Brahmin society to exist . But , certainly not Brahmin class for country and society.
Because of this such kind of society is necessary to exist where educated class is given consideration, (may be a place like NY).
So , if one owns the ethics of Brahmin class , that fellow using society according to his way is not con act.Surely , his earnings will be used to strengthen his class , which is educated one.
Confusing ??? No racism intended , here after … be careful in grasping !
What is the best way to be safe and exist. A place where your existence is accepted.
Why should your existence be accepted ?
Because you have proved your worth of existence.
Is there any kind of relation that exists in nature, where you do not have to prove your worth to exist , yet you are accepted?
Yes , Its MATERNAL 's relationship .
It can be any one , your mom, sister , aunt . But ,why feminine always .
Well , that’s how existence has happened.
Then how can masculine brought near to this concept of maternal , while masculine instinct are different from maternal 's instinct .
Answer is Religion , perception .
How to demolish one’s instinct , OR how to establish certain instincts in one.
When and how does THOUGHTS BECOME INSTINCT.
Is it by making them practice ritual .
Patriotism is one such kind of religion , where patriotic doesn’t understand the worth of the constitution of the country being build yet , yells about giving up his life for his land.
Brahmin class is one which understands the worth of existence and freedom of speech , wants that land to exist for safe guarding their class.
Brahmin class also follows certain kind of religion , that can make one’s mind stability equal of that of maternal 's the superiors.
But , Brahmin’s are not as innocent as maternal are. They intend to stay matured.
What is maturity ?
Staying away from instinct act of warrior class.
Staying away from instinct act of business class.
Staying away from instinct act of Labor class.
Trying to get or won mental ability like Maternal class.
Is this feminism?
well, Your existence has happened like this , nothing can be done , you have to accept it!!
What to accept ?
MATERNAL AS BEST.
But , why ?
YOU MUST BE FOOL TO PUT THAT QUESTION.
Even if god existed , God should be respected for this maternal instinct .Nothing else.
If it’s just about psychic power and no maternal instinct in it. Then Brahmin class has each and every right to
get access to that psychic power and control even that ‘being’ which is termed as god unnecessarily.
Know one thing , SEX , DRUGS , WAR certainly not best.
It puts your heaven like existence in problematic situation.
What all one can do to stop anti - Brahmin from rising and having power ?
Is that really your bike? gr8.
But, if one can buy good washing machine / help for mom by selling your bike , it’s worth a BRAHMIN class act.
Have you heard of NGO ? Where do money come from ?
Before that , it’s nothing wrong if you get money of millionaires in any way and try to build institution that can raise Brahmin class , that respect the reason behind their happy existence , that is MATERNAL.
If society has made Maternal/God class and Brahmin class do that act , then it’s mistake of that society.
Such kind of class should feel guilty for being reason for such situation.
Make money , get rid of non sense class and get into Brahmin class and live happy life with mom , sister , aunt , granny loved ones . Never get married , No to sex( it’s low class act) , Think about being immortal and making your loved ones happy and immortal. Nothing wrong in that .
Aliens and that big being ( Unnecessary god ) have no right to question our existence .
I think you really need to give an example here, as all arguments concerning matters of fact have to submit to the qualities of those facts.
Aside from that a "reversible’ argument does not disprove the argument at all.
A reversibile argument is what is known as a circular argument, and is neither proven nor disproven; it just relies on its own premises.
This is another reason for giving an example.
I have a feeling that you don’t actually have a very good example of the phenomenon that you are alluding to, but I am willing to wait and see.
You started the thread with a ridiculous claim that you have, so far, not bothered to substantiate.
What you are after is not making sense.
Show us what you are talking about then we can move on. Otherwise the whole thread is just empty words.
Let’s take a look at what you said…
But I’ve seen it a million times. Just about the moment when someone has nearly convinced me that the only logical thing I can believe is that the sky is purple or I’m not real, out of nowhere I realize that everything they said can be turned back one way or another to literally lead to an opposite conclusion in spite of all this reasoning being about the same objects in the same world.
You’ve seen it a million times??? Really? Or are you just lying? If you were 50 years old that would mean that you have seen “IT”, more than 50 time a day for your whole life. And what is “IT” exactly?
So tell me how it was proved to you that the sky was purple, and how you can ‘reverse’ the argument to prove it to be untrue.