Hello, as any reasonable person would reasonably surmise, this debate challenge thread is not the debate itself (otherwise people will try everything in their power to derail the topic and prevent the debate occurring), but a request for debate. The only leeway l can think of is to ask for clarification of the challenge in the OP and to accept the debate challenge. There is no basis for other types of reply. Please do not be scared.
Muslims claiming to act according to their faith. How common is this in the Islamic world, treating women and girls as slaves?
" * RUKMINI CALLIMACHI, The New York Times:
It was exactly a year ago, on August 3 of 2014.
ISIS had recently taken the city of Mosul. And they then set their sights on Mount Sinjar, which is just to the north. They invaded Mount Sinjar. And people assumed that — initially that it was just another part of their expansion strategy.
But from the very beginning, it was clear that there was something else going on. Survivors tell us that men and women were immediately separated within the first hour, and that the fighters arrived with fleets of buses and empty trucks, and that those were used to herd the women away.
So they came with a plan to take the women and girls for the sexual conquest that then followed.
- JUDY WOODRUFF:
What did they do with these women? You write how they transported them and took them to different locations. How did they treat them?
- RUKMINI CALLIMACHI:
What happened is they were initially taken to a series of, if you will, holding pens. Most of them were in the city of Mosul inside the Galaxy Wedding Hall, inside the Ministry of Youth, inside a former prison.
And the women say that they arrived at these enormous halls. They were already outfitted with plates, with accoutrements, with food, so they had planned to put large numbers of people there. And they — very soon after, ISIS fighters showed up, and they began doing a very detailed survey of the people in their possession. The women were asked to give their first, middle and last name, their village, their marital status, the number of children that they have.
And then they were asked incredibly personal questions, such as, how long ago did you have your last period? And they then divined from this that the fighters were trying to figure out if they were pregnant or not, because there is a Sharia ruling about not being able to have sex with a pregnant slave.
And from there, the women were further separated into young and old, beautiful and unattractive. And, in batches, they were taken away, and then bought and then further sold to fighters, who used them as sex slaves."
Or, from the koran,
Surah al-mu-minun 23:1-6,
“Successful are the believers, those who… those who guard their chastity, except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession,1 for then they are free from blame”
Hm, I wonder what “bondswomen” means?
“possesing a slave girl…”
Oh… well shit.
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There are multiple religions, all that matters is how they are applied. You can have any number of concepts, but in the end it is how you treat other people that counts. Child marriages, honour killings, the overturning of a host nation, and other examples are not acceptable.
There are many honourable Muslims and I’ve worked with many and employed many. We never once made their religion a reason for or against them, only whether they do the job.
When the religious concepts are more important than interaction, there’s something wrong.
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You were never invited to the debate, but l offered you a chance as l don’t want to be seen to be too selective. However, you are just a spammer and a Whoremonger. You are bad quality.
Here are the original contenders:
@reason4emotion
@Jakob
@Ichthus77
I honest-to-God believe @Jakob is mentally ill, either schizophrenia or dementia, possibly Alzheimers. But @Bob was not invited either, he is a spammer and appears to be propped up by AI.
Thank you.
Again:
The truth hurts, I guess.
I love the Truth
You are not a suitable candidate.
Hello, as any reasonable person would reasonably surmise, this debate challenge thread is not the debate itself (otherwise people will try everything in their power to derail the topic and prevent the debate occurring because they know they are defeated by my proposal), but a request for debate. The only leeway l can think of is to ask for clarification of the challenge in the OP and to accept the debate challenge. There is no basis for other types of reply. Please do not be scared.
Everyone has seen you for what you are by now. Give it up.
Hello, as any reasonable person would reasonably surmise, this debate challenge thread is not the debate itself (otherwise people will try everything in their power to derail the topic and prevent the debate occurring because they know they are defeated by my proposal), but a request for debate. The only leeway l can think of is to ask for clarification of the challenge in the OP and to accept the debate challenge. There is no basis for other types of reply. Please do not be scared.
That sort of respect for individuals, regardless of their religion, only exists in certain types of societies though. I don’t need to mention the type where it doesn’t apply.
A question many people are asking is whether, over time, we will let our societies turn into the other type.
Hello, as any reasonable person would reasonably surmise, this debate challenge thread is not the debate itself (otherwise people will try everything in their power to derail the topic and prevent the debate occurring because they know they are defeated by my proposal), but a request for debate. The only leeway l can think of is to ask for clarification of the challenge in the OP and to accept the debate challenge. There is no basis for other types of reply. Please do not be scared.
It is interesting how Catholicism and Islam stand side by side in all the Islamic countries with the cathedral and the mosque next to each other and in the great Mosque in Damascus they claim that this place has the head of John the Baptist, so an Islamic shrine in Damascus, in the oldest mosque, the most illustrious in that country has this head, (fortunately the roman catholic church has a shrine with the arm of John the Baptist. 
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Who was first Catholicism or Islam …Catholicism was first and Catholicism had a major problem, you see the Byzantine church initially was on the side of Rome, in fact the Byzantine emperor elevated the Roman Pontiff to his level of Corrector of Heresies of the entire world, so yes the Byzantine church in Rome were initially one. Only after about a thousand years did a split come between the Orthodox and the Catholic church when the Orthodox patriarch refused to accept and acknowledge the supremacy the Bishop of Rome then war broke out between these two groups and has been waging since after the Russian revolution. The Orthodox church is saying, I am sorry, so that has been resolved but in the first few hundred years of Catholicism’s rule what was the main problem of Catholicism, who was the problem. The true Christians.
The Jesuits created a front organization, Freemasonry, to do the work if something happens, they say it wasn’t us, it was the Freemasons, they blame the Jews, no it is not us who rule the world, it is the Jews, its them, its Zionism but in actual fact it is Catholicism who rules the world.
A Vatican insider Dr Malachi Martin has said that based on the message of Mary in a personal visitation, John Paul believes there will come a day when the heart of Islam already attuned to the figure of Christ and Christ’s mother Mary will receive the illumination.
Rome controls the Catholic world and today there are two sects the Sunni and the Shia and they control vast areas, huge areas and initially where Christianity was, today you can put Islam.
There are tremendous links between the Templars and the islamic secret societies, the Ismailis the Karmatities the Fatimites the Druzers and the Assassins The Assassins were interesting because they would kill themselves to gain an advantage, they could blow themselves up to destroy others, sounds familiar. So nothing has changed, history is repeating itself.
Thus by the lure of paradise the Assassins enlisted instruments for their criminal work and established a system or organized murder on the basis of religious fervor. Nothing is true and all is allowed as the ground of their secret doctrine. The Jesuits have the same doctrine today which however being imparted but to a few and concealed under the veil of the atmosphere religionism and piety.
So should the world be afraid, the world is meant to be afraid, so you have thesis you have antithesis in the world wars. They said Communism is the threat, you are supposed to be afraid, so that you will accept any changes that are necessary to meet the threat.
So what is going to happen, the two religions will rub up against each other, Christianity Judea Christian culture, Islamic culture, rub them up and destroy each other until what is left, synthesis and then you have One World religion.
Isn’t that what Albert Pike said he was going to do?
"Masonry is the universal morality which is suitable to the inhabitants of every clime, to the man of every creed.[
He adds, “Religion, to obtain currency and influence with the great mass of mankind, must needs be alloyed with such an amount of error as to place it far below the standard attainable by the higher human capacities.” Masonry, however, strips sectarian religion of these encrusted errors and reveals itself as the universal religion. While religion gathers the barnacles of superstition and error, Masonry remains pure and undefiled. It becomes Christianity without Christ, Judaism without the Law, Islam without the Prophet."
Yeah, funny how after all the evidence I posted, including quotes from his own holy book, he ignores it all and runs away. Can’t say I am surprised though. I guess that whole “i wanna debate” thing was just for show.
Islam isn’t about peace, or love, or freedom, or human aspiration, human dignity, human rights or anything remotely close to any of that.
Islam is about servitude and slavery. A backward archaic cult-religion that will kill you if you try to leave it. Absolute hell for the women and girls sadly forced to live under its influence. Probably absolute hell for any free-thinking men too. Mass conformity, turning off your brain, taught to lie and deceive in the name of their god, taught to oppose those who will not convert and kill anyone who makes an image of their prophet. They do all of that stuff, every day. All around the world. This isn’t a storytime fantasy, this is the real world.
Reality check: there are anywhere from 5-10 million people enslaved TODAY in Africa. Top countries with slaves include Mauritania, Niger, Mali, Chad and Sudan. Guess what they all have in common?
You guessed correctly. Islam is the dominant religion in all of them.
Arguing with a narcissist can be extremely difficult, people with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) feel very little empathy for others and are often manipulative. They may use tactics like turning the blame on you, gaslighting you, and resorting to disrespectful behaviour. Sound familiar?
I would have to view a vid on How to argue with a Narcissist and win!
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I am not going to read your lengthy post.
I am not narcissist and as per OP, the debate will proceed by avoiding sophistry (logical and argument fallacies).
The debate was really aimed at you and ichthy.
I take it you are too scared to debate?
Peace be upon you. I have won the debate by default.
Keep ignoring the many proofs I already showed you. Nice "debating " skills 
I’ve already proven my point here. Unless you care to respond point by point to what I wrote above… gg no re.
You are a known Whoremonger and apparently a paedophile as you accused us of being .
Your Islamophobia outdoes the earth’s core in irony.
Peace 
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I HAVE NOW EDITED THE TITLE TO REVEAL WHY THIS THREAD IS BEING TROLLED
Thank you
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Ah but you will… the fire within you burns with curiosity.