Jesus should have not been killed

This is from my hidden thread that Carleas or Flannel made. I’m posting it public and see where it goes from there.

What you don’t get Ichthus is that it’s not some grand conspiracy theory.
People really want to hear true things. Jesus couldn’t deliver.
Think about it for a moment…

I am the way, the truth, the light and the resurrection, I and my father are one and my father is the power and only glory forever and ever.

Who the fuck says shit like that? People on these boards call me crazy. What Jesus said is batshit crazy. Minimize him? He certainly didn’t minimize himself.

I am the resurrection? Most people don’t want to live. All of a sudden he’s the enemy of most people instead of the hero.

He did say he was the light, but the parts you are quoting… the word is life.

People want to live (forever). If they want to die, what they want is to stop feeling pain/emptiness.

Life doesn’t stop pain, it just gives it worth/meaning. The emptiness is meant to be filled by meaning.

…by loving each other despite being batshit crazy. That sort of thing.

They killed him because the truth he spoke threatened the way they exercised their authority…what made them feel valuable and significant.

Same reason you want to minimize him in certain respects, and equate yourself to him in others. You don’t want to hear/see what kicks your psychological crutches out from under you. Unless, of course… you do.

Paul was of the Pharisees who crucified him and went on to persecute Christians, but he changed his mind when Jesus broke through to him. He considered life meaningful whether in this life (fulfilling his purpose by explaining the purpose of Jesus’ death & resurrection) or after death & in the resurrection. He said if Christ had not been raised (some had falsely claimed there is no resurrection…which would have logically meant Christ’s resurrection was impossible, not to mention ours…see 1 Corinthians 15), we who take his resurrection as confirming our future resurrection are most to be pitied. If hope ends with this life, it is false hope. We hunger for meaning/life that never passes away.

@Carleas this thread should be merged with the Pascal’s wager thread.

Jesus is a member of Jewish sexual minorities who was executed for calling for sex between men. Do you seriously want to discuss this pathetic lowlife?

false… please go elsewhere

You’re debating something you don’t understand. Me. I would proudly walk to an anti-abortion rally with a sign that reads, “I wanted to be aborted”. It’s not only true, it’s also funny, and I have a very good sense of humor. Nothing I do to make people laugh will excuse that I was born. I never wanted to be. I’ve always been that way. Some people might think I’m depressing, but do they ever think that deep sleep is the best time of their lives? Now imagine if your soul could sleep forever. Beauty beyond comprehension; perfection. I’m not about death; I’m about a nap forever. These are two very different things, but people can misunderstand me.

Nothin like a good nap.

Unless you sleep through something you didn’t want to miss.

But if a dream was rudely interrupted… it’s obv not oblivion you like about naps.

Those who think with an ass are ridiculous and pathetic, like their idol.

bye bye “Demon”

I have to be perfectly honest here. The first time I saw a woman on earth; I knew life wasn’t worth living. I found out later that they’re all the same. If the universe can even allow that in one place, The best option is death forever. That’s not an easy thing to accomplish though, much to my chagrin. You have to earn naps. So, I’ll be kind to all this whole world of bitches, to earn my nap.

I’ll add to this. If women had had sex with me, I’d have never known life wasn’t worth living…
So, I actually thank them for being bitches.

I’ll even add to that, in case men and women are wondering.
Yes. It really is that bad.
And you’re going to lose a very good soul because of it.
I’m going to earn my eternal sleep.

The cross is a diagnosis. It doesn’t matter if you’re an atheist or a believer.

The cross is a joke. It’s impossible to die for a sin. It is possible to live for one though. That makes the world a worse place. I’m leaving. The only way I can leave is to teach you everything I know so that you don’t need me anymore. I don’t want to be called back. I saw the women.
I’ve said this before, but humans don’t really understand this. I’m a resurrected being.
I came back because I had to teach you. I have nothing left to teach you. Well, that’s not exactly true… but I’ve taught you enough.

All the women, on behalf of Mel… do not feel sorry for you.

Whine & cry about it.

I dunno if we can know for shir if J was having sexy time with his homeboys, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea when inventing this character type to exist as a passifying idol for the exploited peasant and slave classes to make him act kinda gay maybe. You’d want this imaginary idol to be feminine, I’d think. It’s the best strategy for the ruling class scribes and holy men to use when designing a religion for the masses, shirley.

@meno41 … aren’t you gonna tell Bribri to keep Shirley’s name out his mouth?

As for what he said about J… Bribri’s mom & I call projection.

What else is not new? The matras and kundalini fires to be tamed did not exclude consciousness, because it was from it. The dharma , and the karmic involvement also played a part, the humanness, of being a man was also part and parcel, but so what, how mere processes of controlling human feelings exclude sinlessness, just tell me two thousand years ago?

The God in a man like Jesus saw the connect between the pleasure and the death to the soul, and he may have felt he always knew the meaning of Nichiren’s description of Buddha when he maintained that he never died, except he needed followers to believe that he did,

Otherwise how could he claim immortality? You have them to think you die to believe you can resurrect! Especially when belief was strictly seen as a requires without which there was no faith in the matter.

That made IT last through the ages, and think about it, at least it prevented fear, to form projective judgement early on to nihil all progression onward, it had to wait until IT died, for lack of the use of the senses, that memory followed that death by denial.

Denial ironically followed the sense of sight, an expected reverse trespass, otherwise the Jews could never had passed over.

Now memory is reinvented by simulation that familiar sense of absolute faith by who other?

Kierkegaard was the greatest thinker to negative nihilism, by reminding an ontology of simulated reps.

The eternal slavery to the senses (existence) was severed, the doubly edged blade separated that pre-existent being, so that simulation can save man and his fate in God. The second covenant was lifted out and upward toward the fate,

Jesus was killed, He wanted it that way, so that man can again keep in mind they are forgiven because they know of this .

Jesus actually committed suicide and resurrected instead of teaching correctly.
I’m also a multiple resurrected being. I teach correctly.
Jesus would have done better being an ancient Greek philosopher who said all women are bitches and whores and to heal the world we men need to not accept it. And to make the world better men need to not sexually assault women.

That would have actually helped us. Jesus misused the power of resurrection.
I don’t blame the guy. It must have disoriented him to be resurrected, thinking he was so special with what he said.

Fuck. A simple rap artist teaches better philosophy than Jesus

I’m different then some other philosophers in that I’m in full agreement with what you say, except Jesus was an extroordinary man, if in fact claims others make of him are true.

He could actually transcend reality, to last for as long a time as He has, for sure among all the other gods man inclined to believe, His name will surely be within that group ‘eternally’

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