Ah, the United States, the nation that has the highest prison population on the planet. Statistically crime steadily rised from the 1960’s onwards. It especially exploded in the 1980’s.
Now, what caused this huge rise?
Do you want to know what else happened in the 1960’s onward?
The outsourcing of jobs and industrial labor. I’m sensing a correlation between these two subjects here.
When you outsource people’s livelihood and ability to survive meaningful, maybe they turn towards crime?
Too bad our ivy leaguers can’t figure this out, or maybe they’re paid just not be vocal on it whatsoever.
The great irony of the United States is how so many people there buy into the deregulation/free market myth, and yet they bitch and moan like a bunch of teenage girls when some kid in China is willing to work for less than them, thus making them unemployed.
Since the 1980’s, crime rates are down. Did we stop outsourcing jobs? Why, in general, does your consideration of this trend only include 30 year old data?
No, I’m fine with my reply. You’re still talking about the 60’s as if they matter. Crime rates turned around in about 1990, and have been on a downward trend since then. What does prison population have to do with anything? It seems as if you’re trying to use prison population to imply something about crime rates- which is unnecessary since we have crime rate stats readily available.
Crime rates are down since 1990, by a lot- a continual downward trend. Is Job outsourcing on a downward trend too, or no?
So, you’re implying that a explosive ongoing increase in the population of the imprisoned along with having the highest number of imprisoned people on earth within the United States is much to do with nothing at all?
The 1960’s was the tipping point where jobs started being shipped overseas, but didn’t really explode until the 1980’s.
The 1990’s a signature of crime rates going down? Also, the same period advanced security and surveillance systems became put everywhere via the computer revolution.
I’m saying that crime rates are down, outsourcing is up, this has been the case for about 20 years, so it’s highly unlikely that there’s a connection between crime rates and outsourcing- which is the thing that you asserted in your opening post.
Why prison populations are rising (assuming they are) even as crime rates are falling is a potentially interesting thing to talk about, but I don't see how that could possibly relate to outsourcing, either.
One of the primary reason why our prison population continues to increase is that our sentences are so long.
Ship proper jobs overseas. Employ domestic labour in security roles.
It’s just like those automated checkouts at the supermarket. They make the cashiers unemployed, so some of the cashiers get re-employed as security, watching the customers for the ‘undeclared item in bagging area’.
Moving from a manufacturing and distribution economy to a security economy (an obvious trend in the post 9/11, post peak oil world) will be the ruin of the US. The disaster capitalism of the Pentagon has already bankrupted the country, now the same base philosophy is expanding into the rest of the economy.
It’s quite simple really, but it’s no surprise to me that you struggle to understand it. After all, you’re trying to take a 2000 year old ideology and apply it to the modern day, expecting good results. It’s like watching a bunch of Muslims trying to design a computer…
You still seem to be missing my point- that the data doesn’t actually support that this is happening. The OP suggested that outsourcing was responsible for the rise in crime. There hasn’t been a ‘rise in crime’ for 25 years. He was talking out his ass, that’s all.
You’re right there crime has been broadly falling for decades, but I was talking about the link between the economic changes and the increase in prison population, regardless of actual crime…
Maybe! The problem is that prison population increasing has an internal explanation- our sentences are super long compared to other parts of the world, so even if our incarceration rates were flat, prison populations would rise because of the crime boom in the 80's and how long we keep people in there. In general, more poor people go to prison, so I'm sure there's a correlation you could draw.
Yes, it is obvious to people with half a brain. It takes people with three-quarters of a brain to actually spend 30 seconds of time researching to reveal that [i]there isn't a fucking rise in crime going on[/i]. I thought we were past that.