That’s because you think that the object of faith must be worked out into a left brain philosophical system in order to warrant believe. Whereas faith is basic trust in Ultimate Reality. All religions point to it metaphorically. All theological systems as systems fall short of one-to-one correspondence with the ultimate One. Faith in a system results in error. You have directed your attention towards pointing out the errors. Going about it the way you do, that’s where you’ll stay stuck. But you seem to be deeply attached to this MO. You can plug in your determinism proposition here.
Of course: another general description intellectual/spiritual contraption that steers completely away from the points I raise above.
One can imagine felix on Judgment Day making these point in the interview with the admittance officer – God? – at the entrance to Heaven or Nirvana or whatever he imagines the fate of his very own “I” to be.
Technically, he’ll point out, what really is an “error” when it comes to going up or down?
And why not his own Ultimate Reality, he’ll insist. He can argue as I would that this is rooted subjectively in dasein out in the particular world historically and culturally understood in a particular way. A world he was just thrown into at birth. Completely beyond his control.
Really, what would – what could – God say to that?
Don’t be fooled by this. This is just one more tiresome example of the “any enemy of iambiguous is a friend of mine” syndrome here at ILP.
Of late I have been making almost as big a fool of Bob as I do of you. He’s got me on “ignore” I suspect.
And, again, the irony being that, if you and he were ever to discuss his Christian God, you would soon be spewing as much invective scorn at him as you do in regard to nihilism with me.
He actually detests those who come here to ILP and turn the discussions into caustic huffing and puffing “mock mock mock” exchanges. But since it’s aimed at me and I’m a threat to his own comforting and consoling spiritual One True Path, he’ll make an exception.
The key to your argument there is “…one can imagine…” And a psychological proposition to go with it: all imagination is motivated. It’s no great leap to suppose that imagination of an afterlife in heaven is motivated by desire for immortality. What’s motivating your imagination? I have several hypotheses, but I defer to whatever may come from the horse’s mouth, as it were.
Given that, to the best of my knowledge, you have not had the actual experience of being interviewed for admittance into Heaven or its equivalent, all I can do is imagine how you might respond to any judgmental questions about your life put to you. With immortality and salvation on the line. And, besides, it’s less what motivates you to answer as you do and more what might motivate God [or His No God equivalent] to be approving or disapproving of your answers.
Again, assuming that there is a Judgment Day…and that admittance comes down to which particular “a God, the God” is evaluating your answers.
What motivates me? Why the same thing that motivates everyone else of course: immortality and salvation.
This thread just confronts those convinced that their own One True Path rests on the assumption that given Judgment Day, a God, the God will be likely to judge them as eligible to go up and not down. Or even to tumble over into the abyss that is oblivion.
And then those like Bob who won’t delve too deeply into this for fear of putting cracks in his own comfort and consolation.
I want to wake people up. And I can say it this simply.
No Einstein, no Jesus, no Socrates, no emperor, no Nobel prize winners, no ceo philanthropist, no celebrity , no president, no author, no ministers, no ET’s, no prophets, no Buddha, none of it.
The most important thing to communicate in ALL of existence is that consent violation is the only problem.
You can look at this one of two ways:
1.) you can be depressed that your heroes were mentally retarded - and so were you
2.) you can be released from the shackles of the dead and expand to new and infinite possibility
Your posts and videos suggest to me that you are experiencing bizarre grandiose delusions. They seem to be ego syntonic so you’re not likely to do anything to change that.
I’d be grandiose if I forced people into a plan they don’t consent to you.
I’m a project manager dude.
You say some smart stuff. But you’re acting insane … because in your little bubble, anyone who knows vastly more than you, with your fucking memory wipes intact is grandiose.
People actually do this job. I’m the current one.
An infinite number of people have done this job before.
I can’t see it any other way than Felix, especially considering that last video in which you say that everyone, including the wisest people on earth, are all “mentally retarded”. I presume that you think you are the only one who is not.
This suggests that you are doing a lot of projection and you should look for help. The other videos support this view.
You folks are not used to seeing a new plan person.
I’m not greater than anyone.
Look at my fucking video.
Who on this entire earth said the fucking easiest words in the world besides me?
Consent violation is the only problem in existence.
Seems simple right?
Nobody said it.
You’re projecting that I think I’m superior because I’m the first one to say it, just like you’d think of yourself if you were the first one to say it.
None of this is true.
‘Obviously’ someone who states a very simple truth that nobody has stated before must be a narcissistic megalomaniac… right?
You guys don’t know about plan changes at all.
There have been an infinite number of them.
I’m just one of an infinite number of people.
I’m just the current project manager for the newest plan.
Could happen to anyone. Probably has happened to YOU before!!!
