Considering all of the miracles performed by Jesus, I have wondered what had happened with Lazarus after his resurrection. I would suppose any maladies he would have had would have been negated by Jesus’ intervention. Did Lazarus possibly live out his second physical life untill years later? I know there isn’t any pertinent relevance with this question concerning that miracle. I would like to hear some hypotheticals of what may have happened afterwards.
Martha, Mary, and Lazarus are called brother/sisters in the Gospels. It seems that the three were good friends of Christ, because he visits them not only at Lazarus’ death, but at the time of the perfume affair (John 12:1-8). and the time Christ says that Mary had chosen the better part (Luke 10:38-42). It is odd that brothers and sisters would live together in this era, when marriage was seen more of less as a duty. But most Essenes did not believe in marriage. It makes me think that Lazarus, Martha, and Mary lived together as Essene bretheren. I think Christ made his acquaintance with them in the Essene community, since a number of scholars theorize that Christ may have been part of that community. It is odd that there is no Gospel according to Lazarus, or according to any of the others who were raised from the dead (the Talitha Ka’um) girl comes to mind for one. Could it be that there is no mention of Lazarus anywhere else because once upon a time there WAS a Gospel according to Lazarus and it was lost. Lets face it, if The Council of Nicea said it was not part of the inspired canon of the Bible, it was out. (And later, with the Protestant Reformation, more got kicked out; the so called Apocrypha.) Wouldn’t it be neat to find the Gopsel of Lazarus at Qumran some day? I would think that, even if he were illiterate, SOMEBODY would have written down Lazarus’ tale of his experience of death.
You know, I hadn’t considered that before. Other than that or the showing of God’s amazing possibilities, I couldn’t think of anything else. I wonder if Lazarus may have been raised by Jesus so he could get salvation after Christ’s crucifiction. That may clutching at odd straws, but they were supposed to be good friends.
I doubt that Jesus would have been so guileful. Besides, I’m sure that Jesus’ redemption was not just for those who came after him. You would think that father Abraham, David, Daniel, Moses, Esther, and many more would have made it based on his merit as well. Thats another good reason that we can’t say what happens to non-Christians. All of the aforementioned were Jews. But its sorta unthinkable that Abraham wouldn’t have made it. BUt it is a very good point to ponder. What happened to Lazarus? Want to collaborate on a novel? JUst what would a newly raised-from-the-dead man do? What would he say about his experience. It would be a best seller if done right.
Wikipedia collects Lazarus legends here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_of_Bethany.
A book of this nature would be filled with hypotheticals. I wasn’t aware he had the status of saint. Though I have trouble with connotations to sainthood when deemed by men of a church. Certainly a novel such as this could only be construed as fiction for entertainment purposes like ‘The DaVinci Code’. Research of known facts for this story would to to provide a strong buttress for varied timelines that could occur. It’s something to think about alright.
Why did jesus raise him from the dead? There would seem to be a moral controversy there. Use of power for personal gain? hmm, that strikes me as wrong. So if Jesus did raise his friend from the dead there must be a bigger reason than personal gain. Why do it? If God claimed Lazarus’s life then Jesus usurped God. yet Jesus is God in the flesh. So why would God go against itself. Just to give Lazarus salvation is a pretty cheesy ego reason.
The raising of Lazarus is a sign to reveal Jesus’ identity as “the resurrection and the life.” The story suggests he was motivated by compassion for Mary, Lazarus’ sister, as well as Lazarus. Thus the author observes Jesus “groaned within himself” when Mary said that had he been present Lazarus would not have died. He also groaned and wept when he approached Lazarus’ grave.
Well felix, that hints that he knew what he was doing was wrong. That brings a controversy.
You’re kidding, right?
No, I am not kidding. He used his power for personal gain. Vanity ego. Lazarus’s sister said that he would not have died if Jesus had been there. Jesus Groaned inward through vanity. Guilt is not a good enough reason, it is vanity. He took a God’s priviledge and and for no other reason than guilt he brought a life back. Dude thats a no no. Only the head Honcho can do that with out any reason. Jesus may have been god in the Flesh but, as human he was still bound by God’s Laws. The boy crossed the line.
Kris, to suggest that would say Jesus had vanity with all the other miracles that were performed. I know Jesus was in human form, but you have to remember too He was in the wilderness for forty days and nights fasting while being tempted by satan. It is my belief Jesus could have easiily removed the devil from His presence as easily as He drove out the demons that possessed a man earlier in the New Testament. Also, Christ could have shirked His sacrifice for our redemption, but accepted His fate for our salvation.
could he really have done shirked responsibility when he knew god completely?
Jesus being one with God and in the flesh knew (in my estimation) the importance of His role for mankind’s salvation. While in the garden and praying though, Jesus did ask God the Father if the cup before Him could be passed from His hands.
I don’t see it.
Really? Did he know he was the son of god? Why did he not want to die?
honest curiosity here…don’t worry.
Here is a Scripture in the New Testament that states Jesus’ association with God: John 14:7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
I would suppose Jesus did not relish the thought of what was in store for Him and was asking if God could come up with another solution instead of His upcoming suffering and death. Even on the cross during His Crucifiction, (more than like through delerium) He asked God, “Father, why has thou forsaken me?” To me it shows Jesus was human like the rest of us and was asking to alleviate His suffering. My concept could be wrong, but it’s my best guess.
But how could god be human? How could god be in two places? Was he tempted by the devil in the wilderness or was that just to show his strength to resist him?
The trinity thing is really confusing.
To the first question, the virgin Mary, (mother of Jesus) was visited by an Angel wherein he placed the Spirit and physical being in he womb. To answer the second question I would surmise God is omnipresent. Where all things are possible in God, He can (in my belief) occupy any and all venues of His universe. In regard to the third question, being Jesus was in human form, He Himself was subject to the same platitudes as any man. With God’s help, Jesus resisted satan’s onslaught of temptations. The Holy Trinity to me represents our Father (God) Jesus (the son) and The Holy Spirit which represents to me the ethereal presence of God that flows into people during praise and worship causing people to speak in tongues and other various phenoms from God.
I don’t get how Jesus can be god but still be human. It seems like a total contradiction. I’m sorry. I’m not trying to be rude. There may just be a lot of chassidic thought to try and push through.
Are you evangelical?
How can god be split into three parts? Why the father, the son, the holy spirit? Why not just god? It doesn’t seem possible according to the OT to have a three headed god.
Again, I’m not trying to turn this into a huge debate. This is just foreign to me (almost more so than any other religion) so I’m curious.