LGBT are hated for no reason

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VictorMcCheeseEsqire:
It means a nauseating, virtue-signalling hypocrite who is only interested in conforming to the latest ‘in thing’, hence all the woke celebrity hypocrites and your own dismissal of women’s privacy and safety concerns in favour of grotesque and dangerous male perverts.

K: To make judgments on people, as you have, means you believe
yourself to be superior to other people… I have no pretense of
being superior to others which means I do not ‘‘play god’’ in
passing judgements on others… as you do…You believe
because you hold a certain viewpoint, you are superior to
others… whereas I hold to the Declaration of Independence,

‘‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men/people
are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness’’

and among those rights are the right to dress and be who
they are, that to take away these rights, is by definition,
opposed to the very idea that ‘‘all men/people are created equal’’

Who am I to say that some rights are acceptable and some are not…
you say that LGBTQ are deviants and perverts, and yet, they too
are simply engaged in pursuing their own
‘‘certain unalienable rights’’ among which are ‘‘life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness’’ just as you have the rights
to pursue your own ‘‘life, liberty and pursuit of happiness’’

how do we know that their rights are ‘‘wrong’’ or ‘‘worse’’
then your rights to ‘‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’’
on what grounds would we have to make that judgement?
what criteria would we use to determine whose rights are
valid and whose rights are not? As I stated, I am not
going to play god and decide who is right or wrong, based
on very shaky epistemological grounds…
How do you know you are right and on what grounds do you
based this on, given that we have no way to know who is right…
epistemologically…

and as far as being a ‘‘virtue signaling’’ the only one here doing
that is, YOU… I’ve held these beliefs for decades… there is no
attempt on my part to be socially acceptable… and why?
Because I honestly don’t give a shit what idiots like yourself
think or say… I have no ‘‘social reputation’’ to save, nor
am I going to gain any approval… and why? I DON’T CARE…
social approval has not and never will be what I am going for…
So, keep your own ‘‘virtue signaling’’ to yourself…

Kropotkin

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He says as he ‘judges’. :rofl: What a fucking clown you are. Your deliberate twisting of what I write only proves that you have nothing. You are a liar and a fraud.

And yes, I’m sure you have hated women and believed that men should be allowed to punch their lights out and be called heroes for it, FOR DECADES. That doesn’t make you any more palatable.

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Yeah I dunno about that. Looks to me like keter went full Thomas Jefferson on you, mate.

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Who?

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VictorMcCheeseEsq:
He says as he ‘judges’. :rofl: What a fucking clown you are. Your deliberate twisting of what I write only proves that you have nothing. You are a liar and a fraud.

And yes, I’m sure you have hated women and believed that men should be allowed to punch their lights out and be called heroes for it, FOR DECADES. That doesn’t make you any more palatable.

K: what you think of me is rather a matter of indifference to me…
as far as ‘‘hating women’’… that is rather tough as I have been married
30 years as of July 5… as far as violence goes, not a fan… for violence
never achieves or accomplishes anything… and frankly, your belief
only LGBTQ people commit violence flies in the face of reality…
my daughter was attacked by her boyfriend at the time,
and he wasn’t LGBTQ… he was just another toxic male
who believed he was superior to her… the vast number of men
who attack women are their husbands or boyfriends, not
LGBTQ… but of course, given that you don’t hold to facts,
but to prejudice and bigotry which leads you to believe that only
LGBTQ types can attack women, when in fact, that is not true…
but once again, your prejudice and bigotry doesn’t allow you
to see that violence is more prevalent from toxic males
then LGBTQ…

Kropotkin

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Holy acronyms Batman. ‘‘Not an acronym, Robin. An initialism’’.

Her boyfriend wasn’t an ‘LGBTQ++++’. He was a man. I don’t give a shit how they dress or what they claim to ‘identify’ as. Men are men. Get it now, retard?

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Maybe Peter Kropotkin too is an LG Beta.

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Socrates:
Maybe Peter Kropotkin too is an LG Beta.

K: and that is Mr. Kropotkin to you…
I am not LGBTQ or W, X, Y or Z…
I am a happily married man of 30 years, as of
July 5… I just happen to firmly believe in others having
the same rights as I have…until I retired, 6 months ago,
I saw LGBTQ individuals all the time, it didn’t and still doesn’t
bother me in any, way, shape or form… and you know why?
I don’t allow fear or prejudice to make decisions for me…
as others around here operate within fear and hatred and anger
toward people who aren’t exactly like them… these individuals,
like Mr. McCheese, are deathly afraid of others being
different than he is… McCheese is really a weak individual
who can’t tolerate differences because he doubts himself…
as those who fear inclusion and diversity also doubt themselves…

Real strength is acceptance of others even if they don’t
think like me, dress like me, act like me, or pray like me…
acceptance of others takes courage… clearly lacking in
McCheese… this is shown by his hysterical attacks on me…
because he fears he is not masculine enough, whatever that means…
and to be kinda honest, I feel sorry for him… he is afraid of
others due to his own weakness… that is a sorry place to be…

Kropotkin

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As if that’s your real name and not a stolen one :rofl:

What a load of pathetic drivel, stuffed with nothing but self-adoration, ad homs and strawmen.

What ‘rights’ are you referring to exactly that they don’t currently have? What ‘rights’ do you think I’m trying to take away from them? Please share (which of course you won’t).
You don’t even know what the fuck you are talking about.
I don’t believe you are as stupid as you are appearing here. I’m not sure why you would pretend to be completely clueless (and I don’t care). No one to impress here, dear.

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To a LG Beta?

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He’s an old hippie, ex-acid head who sold drugs online, was never married to any one, and may or may not be LG Beta.

When he posted as himself, he would go on and on about sharing the bread, which we all found suspect.

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Allegedly.

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hey man, share your bread huh? … I have some drugs

A L L E G E D L Y

@Peter_Kropotkin just to clear the air up: Are you trans?

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No, I just always found something vaguely homoerotic about it. “Share your bread with me.”

Maybe it’s just me.

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Did he ogle your baguette?

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Basically this, yes. And even the “hatred” isn’t so much about hating anything and doesn’t even tend to occur fully consciously (realized)… people simply have an instinct of revulsion against these things. Those who still have some good (healthful) instincts, anyway.

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I disagree.
And i disagree vehemently and hard.
LGBTQ ppl might be distasteful to you, but on their own they do nothing just like the flu doesnt. They are an isolated little niche group doing their own little thing. If you catch the flu, it passes.

On the other hand when LGBTQ starts to act like cancer:

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meaning that a simple flu, a simple niche group that should be a nothing burger for all intents and purposes, is wrecking your entire society, then you have a LOT, AND I MEAN A F LOAD of self reflecting to do because a simple flu is basically killing you, meaning that there are MUCH larger underlying issues there, aka your entire immune system and body is f-ed beyond repair and reproach.

The only thing i dislike more than the woke sh-t politics and trans nutter rats, are conservatives which are incapable of assessing the failings of their own system.
You know.
Things like preferring to separate the education system from the state and letting it go fully and completely go diseased and infested with marxist nutjobs.

When this is what your school system looks like:

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Then i am sorry, but you have no room left to criticize the LGBTQ community and i am saying that as someone who does not like or advocate for LGBTQ.

Its a simple case of a self inflicted wound. If the LGBTQ community is a flu then maybe the thing we should be addressing first is your behavior of going around during flu season, licking door knobs and poking your finger into every green spit you see on the street.

Because thats what this is.
LGBTQ is nothing more than a bunch of people with their own weird little preferences, kinks, fetishes, whatever.
How does that turn into a cancer that spreads through society?
No brother.
The issue here is not with the LGBTQ people.

Its a bait and switch, a symptom, the last straw, name it what you want, but its neither the source nor the name of the issue.
And if you cant name the problem.
If you cant understand what is happening and why its happening, then you are part of the problem.

Society is coming apart at it’s seams, and pointing at LGBTQ ppl does nothing, only make it come apart faster, because its neither the cause, nor the origin, nor the reason for the issue.

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If you are going to hate something then you at least nead to define exactly what you are hating. A random bunch of letters, most of which are meaningless, doesn’t cut it. For example what does an ordinary gay man or lesbian have in common with a straight man who gets off on wearing women’s clothing and hanging around in women’s toilets and changing rooms? Or a child who has been brainwashed into believing he has the ‘wrong body’? Or an attention-crazed ‘celebrity’ who announces that they need to get in on the act too, so they suddenly ‘come out’ as ‘non binary’ :rofl:
The ‘acronym’ is a mile long, in case you hadn’t noticed, including a ‘plus’ which evidently includes the most loathesome and depraved, limited only by the imagination.

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I am a homophobe. Despite that, I can see the 100% truth in this. It’s a bait and switch on grand proportions. Get them angry at anything, but the thing. On the other side of the coin, teach obedience by acceptance of absurdity.

Even homophobia has its correct proportion. I may be a homophobe, but I’m not out here plotting against the homosexuals.

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I feel similarly.
Im pretty sure everyone has their opinions and preferences about who they like and dislike.
That should never stand in the way of assessing an issue objectively and rationally, and personally, i feel borderline insulted by the way everything is set up in order for people to hate on LGBTQ and vice versa.

Yet no matter how you look at it, the problem is systemic.
LGBTQ is a nothing burger. It does absolutely nothing on its own just like… i dont even f-ing know, dendrophilia doesnt. There are people out there who get it on with trees, and most people dont even know what the word even means, forget about it affecting anyone or anything. Why? Because its disregarded.

In similar fashion if all the cancerous and insane politicians, NGOs and thinktanks didnt decide to use LGBTQ as a shield and battering ram for their purposes, if schoolboards and marxist school leadership did not push LGBTQ on their own, then who or what would LGBTQ ppl bother?
Nobody. Thats who.
They’d be a simple little isolated group, living their simple little isolated lives, doing their own little things with their own little ppl.

The fact that this is not the case, is not on LGBTQ people.
The people guilty of all the friction and setting these groups against eachother are elsewhere.

Hate has its place. Its a perfectly justifiable emotion.
But hate has its rules start out with “know where to point it at, lest you want it to blow up in your own face”.
Its perfectly fine to hate people who push LGBTQ bs on 8 year old (and younger) children.
But the irony is that those people are almost never LGBTQ themselves. So yes. There absolutely is a bait and switch going on where the LGBTQ community is only a tool for a purpose.