We’re not being ridiculous, we’re consistently applying your own reasoning. You’re being ridiculous.
If I make a group of humans called the “Non-spree-shooter Coalition”, and they go spree-shooting innocent children, then that is FAR WORSE, than making a “Sex with Cows Coalition”, and they go spree-shooting innocent children.
You and greenfuse ought to figure out why this is.
Does anybody know what the fuck this guy is talking about?
I do genuinely hate this thread of culture that seems to have formed.
I’m talking about the false equivalent above.
The moral value of a group, condemned for specific reasons why they are bad or evil.
If there is a group of humans DEDICATED to moral actions, then that is not the same as a group NOT dedicated to moral actions.
Which you and greenfuse just used to try to “prove me wrong” about generalizations.
The generalization is NOT the same between the two different groups.
This culture is thriving through the internet anonymity. Garbage discrimination of people groups, that can cause massive backlash if it is reveiled in public, appears easily in forums with anonymity.
So you LGBTQs are going to cede the point, that there are genuine grudges and reasons “to be hated” against you now?
Or will you continue to try to distance yourselves from the listed spree-shooters and Charlie Kirk’s assassination?
Why not just own up to it, and admit that LGBTQ+ does have a lot to answer for already?
Mate, pull your head together. If listing 4 crimes is enough to hate a group, then we get to hate EVERY group. You still don’t get it?
How about the LONNNNNG list of these then?
Or how about any NORMAL parents now need to watch out for pedophiles and sex offenders, dressing up as women, to leer at and chase little girls in girl’s bathrooms?
What about the long list? What’s your reasoning? Are you capable of putting a coherent argument together? So far, your argument is, “They’re hated because of these 4 crimes”. Please, GET A BRAIN, that isn’t a philosophically sound justification for anything.
Do you have enough of a brain to participate in a forum like this? It’s time you proved it.
There was systematic abuse of children at significantly higher numbers than members of other groups. The Church used political pressure and coercion to suppress this knowledge coming out. And this was successful for a long time. Imagine what message that sends to victims - a moral one? The church systematically moved priests who abused children to other positions where they also came into contact with children.
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It’s time YOU defend your ideology.
You basically are willing to ignore the spree-shootings, and what next for you to ignore? The adoptive child sex abuse? The Tranny sex assaults against girls in women’s bathrooms?
No, you cannot defend it and you know it.
Nope, the rate is much higher in LGBTQ+ than it is in any religious denomination.
Try again.
I don’t think you have the mental capacity to be here. This is a philosophy forum. We need people here who are capable of critical thinking.
That’s not a response to what I wrote. After you actually respond to what I wrote, which was in response to the one Bishop hallucination sentence in your post, please show how you determined where the higher abuse is found. Or should i just take your word for it?
I’m sure there are all sorts of compelling reasons for hating all sorts of groups of people. “Look at this short list of crimes”, however, is NOT a serious reason. It is a reason that a person incredibly vulnerable to the most basic targetted propaganda would fall for, not a reason that an adult human with a fully functioning brain would accept. Individual crimes are meaningless.
To back up some claim about a set with just some cases, you have to not only show the cases, show that those cases are part of a larger set, and show how it is.
To be fair, I think what @RealUn wrote was not a fully fledged argument. A better argument can use that, but that’s just not enough. It ends up taking more time if you are lazy with showing the connections in your argument
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That was an interesting read.. 
People can be put into groups but only when our guardians of morality say they can be.
I’m going to really stick my neck out here and risk the wrath of our morality high-lords and say that 100 percent of the group that comprises men who want to hang around women’s toilets and changing rooms are predatory perverts.
MistressOphelia:
I’m going to really stick my neck out here and risk the wrath of our morality high-lords and say that 100 percent of the group that comprises men who want to hang around women’s toilets and changing rooms are predatory perverts.
K: any evidence for your statement or are you just making shit up?
Kropotkin
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