LGBT are hated for no reason

The above poster cannot be serious. I think his hard drive would be ‘very’ interesting.

Correct. Treating people differently because they share a characteristics with other (negative) individuals is widely referred to as prejudice.
There are however 3 major issues here.

  1. Pattern
  2. Deflection
  3. Protection of the larger group
  • First is when the same protected characteristics keep creating the same issues.
  • Second is when attempts to address these issues individually is being deflected to protected group characteristics (i.e. criticizing an lgbtq person for their behavior will instantly result in you being labeled as a xyz"phobe").
  • Third is when associated protected groups and communities not only refuse to actually police themselves and “take out their trash”, but outright circle the carts around them and protect them.

So the wider issue (which will eventually spiral into violence because there is no other outlet) is that protected characteristics have become a status symbol and a privilege which can be used ranging from evading personal responsibility, to outright having different legal standards in front of the justice system.

It just doesnt work when you simultaneously cant criticize individuals for their individual actions because they will instantly deflect to protected characteristics, and the protected characteristics group protects them; and also you cant criticize the protected characteristics group either because then they gonna say that its just certain individuals and you cant condemn the entire group.

This game works for a while, and then people get fatigue.
And they will stop caring and just reorganize your face as their first method of interaction because everything else has failed a hundred thousand times before.
There is only so many times you can have it both ways before teeth start falling out of mouths.

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Don’t be a piece of shit. Show him some evidence.

@Peter_Kropotkin

The life expectancy was actually much higher at the end of the 1800s, your statement might of been true in say the period of 1000A.D.

Also, it was 1800s morality and ethics that eventually abolished the African Slave Trade.

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It is not reasonable to say 'for no reason", for a wrong reason is at least defensible.

LGBT are hated because they do what Lincoln said about slavery : Not only do they want us to say it is legal , they demand we say it is a social good.

LGBT people hate non-LGBT and that is an undeniable fact in my eyes. THink of gays in San Francisco yelling ‘Breeders’ to a family walking by. Anyway , you seem to be using a moral cagtegory to argue against morality. You can’t say it is immoral to dislike LGBT and then disqualify someone who says LGBT is immoral.

Have you met many gay people? I’ve never met a gay person that demands everyone else say gay men bumming each other is a social good.

I llived on Dupont Circle so ,yes, tons of gays.

I don’t think they want you to think being gay is GOOD, I think they just want you to let them live their lives. You don’t need to think everything everybody else does is a social good to just accept that people do it. Do I think NASCAR is a social good? No. Do I want to stand out infront of a courthouse with a big sign that says “GOD HATES NASCAGGOTS” to stop people from watching it or from doing it? No. People can do things without them being explicitly a “social good”, that’s completely irrelevant.

We don’t need to live in a draconian world where everything one is allowed to do has been pre-approved by a government who has stamped it as a “social good”, people can just live their lives and enjoy the things they enjoy and love the things they love, and other people can just … mind their own business. That’s what most gay people want. They don’t give a shit if you think men bumming men is a “social good”, I think that’s a ridiculous strawman.

I don’t know why it matters at all, unless it is disruptive. A person’s sexual orientation just isn’t that important to me, it’s more important if they’re sound or not, surely? Everything else is their business.

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Well, you are wrong. THe debaate on gay adoption for example. It DESTROYS children so if gays like it, want it too bad. It is evil , gravely wrong.

You are using moral categories while dissing morality

What is the point of this sentence? Is it a criticism? If so.. what are you talking about?

And that link is made by an organization that has heterosexual marriage as part of it’s mission statement. It’s not very compelling to link to explicitly biased sources for whatever point it is you’re trying to make.

But also, it can simultaneously be true that we let gay people be gay, AND that gay people shouldn’t be parents. That’s certainly a possible world. I don’t know that that is our world, but it’s possible. I don’t need to hate gay people, or try to make being gay illegal, if that’s true.

This whole reply of yours pretends to rationality while putting down reason !!! Yes that site is for heterosexual marriage. I thought and searched and investigated – -used my reason – and I conclude homosexual marriage is wrong, very wrong. you like searching, you hate finding.

You make good points against yourself. NASCAR is neither a good or a bad, it’s NASCAR, you don’t like cars you should not have an opinion, seriously.

And you make a terrible point against yourself by equating the view that homoesexuality is disordered and perverted with signs like Westboro Baptist has. God hates homosexuality but not homosexuals. He wouldn’t warn that you can lose eternal life by homosexaul behavior He would just damn them and be done with it,

You confuse government too as if it were the highest guide or authority. In the USA we are one nation under God and you don’t have to bring the government into things to justify homosexuality. Past that I am confused by your approach. What things in life does every single person approve anyway. Get over it :slight_smile:

FFS. Is it ever NOT ‘pride month’??

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Why are wokists so determined to sexualse children? :thinking:

''Ladybird Books’ Pride Post with Hijab-Wearing Woman Draws Muslim Backlash

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The UK children’s publisher posted the image during Pride Month with a caption about everyone feeling free to be themselves, no matter who they love. 5Pillars, a Muslim news outlet, objected, stating homosexual acts are forbidden in Islam and children are vulnerable to such messaging aimed at kids as young as two. Commentators highlighted tensions between progressive inclusivity and conservative religious views, with some predicting rifts in alliances. Ladybird has not responded publicly.‘’

You know there’s something REALLY wrong when you are forced to side with islamists.

We all know that caucasian/muslim lesbian parent couples are one of the most oppressed groups, almost on a par with crossdressing men with chronic jock-itch and a Hitler moustache. It’s important for preschoolers to think about and understand these important truths rather than stupid, pointless things like joy and a sense of wonder.

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Why are you forced to side with them? What about this image forces that?

‘…finding yourself siding with…’ would have been better wording. Of course no one is ‘forcing’ me’ to. The same applies to fundamentalist christians. It’s probably the first time I’ve ever agreed with either of them on ANYTHING. It’s a weird serendipity that fundamentalist religious nuts have aligned with those on the side of science, logic and reason for possibly the first time in history-- but for vastly different reasons. Their hatred for gays has coincidentally forced them to side with children and sanity.

I’m a liberal, religion-free person who has never had anything against gays.

You work it all out. I don’t need the headache.

You’ve never had anything against gays, but you’re forced to agree with religious extremists about some image with two women together. Why won’t you bottle feed it to me? How is this not “something against gays”?

I care about children, and those books are specifically for children. Grown men can take care of themselves.

That’s not a book, that’s just a single picture on a social media website. What are you on about? What grown men can “take care of themselves”? What does that have to do with anything? It seems like you’re just saying random stuff now.