One may wonder what the title of this thread means… life brings death as light brings darkness…
it means that with life must come death just as with light must come darkness…darkness can only be characterized by light and light can only be characterized by darkness…what of life and death? it shows that life must also be characterized by death and death must also be characterized by life…
what does this tell us???
one may not have light without darkness and one may not have darkness without light…then one may not have life without death and one may not have death without life.
this seems to be immediately and irrevocably true when viewed in this way…therefore we must wonder what the purpose is in scientists assuming that human life will one day reach technological advances great enough to create physical immortality.
is this not akin with saying we will some day create light without darkness??? (do not worry about answering this question specifically)
we must wonder what the purpose is in believing that we will some day have life without death…and better yet we must use our common sense in understanding how it is logically possible or impossible to have physical life without physical death.
from a philosophical point we can see that life needs death in order to be life and death needs life in order to be death, just as light needs darkness in order to be light and vise versa… what i am getting at is…it is literally impossible to separate light from darkness or darkness from light- they are not separate objects but instead are 2 different ends of the same thing (or “the other side of the coin” for example- no matter what, it is still one coin- not two separate coins)
scientists that are working on our genes to create a human life that will not die naturally is rather absurd and intellectually limiting to say the very least…prolonging life is one thing…but to assume that we will some how make human life immortal meaning to exist until the end of time is irrational (one second can be stretched into a billion years of a society’s demise or the demise in them of that which is existential…at a certain point it could be infinite torture to lose this, especially if time is stretched infinitely)
life itself involves many many things which are all impermanent- from memory to intelligence to our very core identity (which could only be immortal after death of our physical body)
playing around with our genes might make us live longer but how does that transfer over into a human being “physically” immortal?
…immortal meaning that we will not die…hence life without death (akin to light without darkness)
we must realize that it is death itself that allows us to learn…it is death itself that gives us energy and motivation to learn and the memory to learn and the memory to have memory to learn of memory to have to learn lol
death is what allows life to exist…darkness is what allows light to shine brightly…it is a context in which light may be itself and show itself in its many ways (and vice versa)…we may therefore say that death is the context in which life may present itself in all of its many wondrous ways…
how may scientists take away the context without therefore taking away the contents? they are not separate- they are not separable.
we may imagine ourselves to be immortal- and yet how will we move? breathe? sleep? live? …knowledge is literally not possible without death! death is that which allows life to move! (or life is that which allows death to move- for simplicity’s sake we will say that death allows life to move)
is not learning possible only through life? is not life possible only through death?
maybe this will help those to better understand…
imagine someone that is physically immortal…why would they learn? why would they live? why would they breathe? why would they do anything whatsoever? …does not the fact that they are immortal mean that they would not have to do anything? is not thought a product of life? therefore how may one have thought through physical immortality? HOW MAY ONE HAVE MOTIVATION WITHIN PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY? motivation can be said to be our reason for everything within life- motivation to live- to breathe- to sleep- to survive…how may motivation to survive come about within immortality? does not this motivation have to be alive? to move? to exist in order to be relevant?
therefore imagining a physically immortal being we would have to wonder what its motivation would be to live? if not, then death is ever present within…that is very important to understand…without death there is no motivation…therefore any entity that is alive must have death within itself biologically (and therefore logically, being that our logic and biological makeup are directly related to one another)
what does it mean that any entity that is alive must have death within itself biologically? it means that life and death are inseparable…death gives life to time! it takes time to think and live and breathe and eat and drink and sleep and love- but one that is physically immortal would not have to abide by time therefore what would be their motivation to abide by time if they do not have to abide by time (does not the motivation itself come from time)? unless they are already abiding by time(are alive and were born) and then become immortal afterwards (after they are born)…how is this possible?
we know that in order to be born in the first place one would then need to be mortal and use time and have death within…so how may one that has already been born and uses time go into a state where the body does not use time but the mind does (thinking)?
one may say that these physically immortal humans will simply keep up with their bodies- continuing to eat and sleep and that through genetical manipulation their body will not age past a certain point. hmmm well there are many ways to age- not just our appearance…what about our internal clock, what about our memory? does not our memory abide by time…do we not need our memory to be ourselves? how will scientists be able to make memory immortal? will they manipulate memory so that we may directly nourish it and keep it alive? then what is it that is keeping track of our memory? will scientists manipulate our identity so that we are able to directly nourish it? then what is keeping track of our identity? will scientitsts be able to manipulate our souls so that we are able to directly nourish it?
in other words…scientists may be able to manipulate our genes so that we will not age “physically” but that does not mean that we will not continue to age otherwise…no matter what we will still age just as long as we use memory for simplicity’s sake…memory itself would need to abide by time and so what fear awaits these poor physical immortals…shall they one day just die despite their supposed belief in their own immortality…shall their identity tear away at a certain point or their consciousness suddenly go blank one day? and more importantly if our brain is dependent upon our identity and our body is dependent upon our brain, then if we lose our identity our brain will immediately shut down and we will of course die.
humans are born from death and therefore have death within them…trying to take away death from life is irrational, illogical and impossible.
life itself is of death…death gives time and movement and feeling…are scientitsts attempting to take away feeling from existence that is only alive in the first place because of feeling? existence itself must have death in order to be existence…it is the same as nothing and something as i have spoken of many times. in this respect we may look at life as something and death as nothing…simply the inseparable union of that which comprises existence itself…therefore in order for us to be alive we must then have death within us as well down to the very core of ourselves which stands different -but it is only our core that stands different and trust me our core is not made up of genes 
therefore working on our genes will give us a temporary prolonging of our life not physical immortality…
physical immortality is impossible for an entity that was physically, mortally born…for those thinking we will one day be physically immortal please realize the idea itself is illogical as well as irrational (once life and death is truly understood) and is truly not possible in any way…that is, it is impossible to separate life and death- you must have one to have the other.
God bless
-hth