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Abandonment equals Maternal Instinct.
Tuppy would not agree with this, she was a surrendered dog, in a shelter.
Don’t kill Tuppy.
I will remember your good advice and abandon her to the woods.
The kindest option.
You are so ignorant. That is Deliverance backwoods mentality.
Do you play a mean banjo? HA
At least that dog is alive. Your method, and it would be dead. You tire of someone, put them to sleep. Grandma too old, euthanize her. You close down a bank account, send your banker to the gas chamber.
This is the mentality of a country descended from convicts.
Things need to get civil in here.
Feral groups of cats will only gather to kill other animals in horror movies. Most times they are independent hunters. Dogs will work together. Feral dogs are far more dangerous to the environment. Felines hunt rodents and birds. Dogs will gather to hunt people and other animals even other dogs. I have both dogs and cats, I love them equally. All the cats and dogs are treated equally and trained equally with one exception. The dogs have a half acre yard and are not allowed out of house or yard unescorted, the cats are.
But an incredible threat to bird life.
We are not exactly running out of birds. Anyone sitting on the patio of McDonald’s know this.
Certain species are being affected in certain areas. More often then not though felines prefer ground prey, snakes, rodents, rabbits etc. We live out in the country , our cats were raised like the dogs and they are the only ones I have seen hunt pack style with and without our dogs. The dogs have also learned feline tactics. Pretty damn interesting to watch a group together.
We are running out of a number of bird species. Like ones that are less likely to come scavenging around McDonald’s.
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We’re not exactly running out of livestock. Dogs are killing far fewer wild or domesticated animals than cats.
But hey, I’m sorry you didn’t like what I wrote. Maybe you could just write that, instead of writing some assinine anectdotale piece of shit response when in fact you had nothing to say, but didn’t like hearing what I wrote so you acted as if I had written something obviously silly earning.
How can someone so well read as you who in addition has a unique mind act like a pouty three year old so fucking often.
If we are low on birds, God will make more birds. God will provide.
Actually what occurs is starvation reproduction or extinction because the creature cannot adapt. A creature that cannot adapt has genetics faults that nature removes through extinction. A God has little to do with genetic programming.
Introduced species of birds threatens the native fauna by predating upon other birds and competing with them for nesting sites, the problem can become so severe that the some native species of birds are threatened with extinction.
For example Myna birds are of epic proportion in Australia and are a very aggressive species. ‘Violent battles’ are staged by Indian Mynas evicting the native birds that already occupy a nest and have been known to pile straw right over the top of baby parrots, which in turn is causing devastating effects on the native birds.
I’m not worried about the introduction of new bird species over old ones, I changed my views when I lived in California, then Hawaii.
In California, the liberals go out of their way to destroy society for the sake of a near or fish. As a result, society stagnates, and as a result of that, biodiversity collapses. Its a basic rule of thumb, humans drop a lot of nitrates into the soil, and you can usually spot a archaeological site in woodlands by the biodiversity surrounding it. Humans attract a lot of life.
In Hawaii, it was largely a barren shithole till the Polynesians and later settlers started bringing in new plants and animals. This introduction continues to this day, the Honolulu zoo let’s it’s peacocks freely fly in and out, they have free roaming Australian geese (nearly extinct down under), etc. In a few sports where the older phases of ecology are largely intact, it’s nearly desert.
So I’m not as worried anymore. I’m hardly ignorant of the science behind ecology and conservation, but once I was exposed to the extreme negatives and destructiveness inherent in the sierra club approach to things, and saw how immensely beneficial a strong emphasis on environmental artifice is… bringing in new life forms, I’m largely won over. San Francisco goes to extreme lengths to maintain a shoreline south of the golden gate bridge as natural… but it’s largely a joke. Frank Herbert based Dune on it… used to be dust storm prone desert, now is a Australian imported Eucalyptus forest… might as well let Koala Bears loose in it. The shoreline is heavily weeded, needs constant attention to be “natural”, but they don’t tolerate it elsewhere. They even maintain Bison a few miles nearby, which arent native to the region at all, so its all one big giant joke. Its a silky contrast between the fake and natural, but it is ALL imported, especially the natural. More artifice is needed to maintain what is natural than what is alien, and I doubt most can tell what originally belonged and what didnt. They eoukd be shocked to find most of the ciry was weeds and sand dunes, a few giant trees, thats it. People want foresty, lush nature, so they import it by the truck loads.
About ten years ago seagulls migrated to my area. They cant land on grass, only asphault. They eat fast food byproducts, mice, etc… never lived here prior. Cat colonies nearby. A dozen none native tree species, none native fruited bushes and veins.
I dont gave a construct of “nature” guiding or selecting evolution, or a concern of Maia. After youve studied the theories intellectually, your mindset is forced to adapt upon actually comming into contact with the inherent diversity of life. On the one hand, everyone is bemoaning the massive extinction if native lufe around the planet… but we honestly dont know what the rates of extinction naturakly is… what I see simultaneously, is life following in our footsteps, taking great advantage of us, multiplying and diversifying on a level impossible before. We have more life today than we did before, despite the liberal plight, crying about our sins of the exploitation of nature. I’ve had a similar awakening as Datwin had at Galapagos, and I marvel at the life bringing force man leaves in its wake. Its really hard to not look and see our effects as a positive at times in a great many enviroments.
A country like australia can quickly destroy itself with not introducing a full set of checks and balances… rabbits and destroy everything fast, but I dont see much difference between the outback and hawaii a few hundred years ago, or san francisco.
Cats are now native to six continents. It is a good thing, they keep rodents in check, are symbiotic to humans, even when wild they pause and take note of us, and vice versa. A garden of eden is slowly emerging internationally.
TF wrote:
"Australia’s desert landscapes, regarded as the ‘outback’ of Australia, are a powerful symbol of place, and have inspired and helped define Australia’s identity. The desert is part of the mythology of rugged survival in a harsh climate.
Managing desert lands in Australia involves an extraordinary biodiversity of plants and animals with complex conservation issues. This includes 1,800 types of plants, with the most common type of vegetation in rangelands being grasslands including spinifex. There are over 605 vertebrate animals; however the following desert mammals are extinct: Desert Bandicoot, Lesser Bilby, Desert Rat-Kangaroo, two species each of wallaby, and hopping mice. The Western Quoll, the Numbat, Bilby, Golden Bandicoot and other mammals are threatened with extinction.
Australia’s native plants vary across the many different natural environments of the country. Where water is scarce in central Australia, the plants are spread thinly over the land and fruits such as bush tomatoes and quandong or native peach grow.
Twenty three per cent of the rangelands are used for nature conservation as they are home to a significant number of rare fauna and flora species and are the habitat for rare, threatened, and endangered species. The desert lands include five World Heritage sites and eleven per cent of all the listings on the Register of the National Estate.
Gum trees (eucalypts) are a vital part of the Australian natural environment. The only major environment where eucalypts are absent is rainforest. There are about 12 species which occur naturally outside of Australia but around 700 are native to Australia. Eucalypts serve as shelter for many species of native Australian animals and birds. Only a few varieties of gum leaves are the only food eaten by koalas".
I think you know quite a lot about this country Australia, but sometimes you are way off the beaten track, so to speak.
Just cause something is part of Australia’s identity doesn’t make it right, even if it evolved in the outback.
What is far more important, is life settling down in it’s ecological patterns, not being frozen in one state by man’s prejudices for what qualifies as nature, which is a oxymoron.
Life doesn’t take much notice of man’s categories, it does what it must to survive. You see “Australia” and “Identity”, life just wants to thrive in the soil it evolved in, and all life has a right to thrive under the sun and under the moon, if there was ever any logic to “rights” to begin with. If reindeer manage to get into the outback and thrive, good for them… they can join the wild camel herds (equally non native, like the wild horses in America) and do whatever.
Your really underestimating the capacity of life to adapt. If it gets too out of wack, like when river systems dry up, that’s when you introduce foreign predators or mass human hunting. We introduced ladybugs from Australia to check Alphids.
You need to stop hurting kitties by sending them to their deaths. A couple of pictures of plants soon to be extinct (because they don’t deserve to live, not competitive enough for planet earth) won’t begin to convince me. If they survive despite competition, then they are part of the real ecology. If they must be protected through absurd stretches of enforcement and protection from encroachment, then you’ve done nothing but prolong the inevitable… societies periodically collapse, and lawless eras dont care about preceding eras concepts of environmentalism. I have no pity for a useless plant that can’t make it on it’s own, unless you can show a utility to it… and I don’t mean being a linchpin to other useless plants and endangered critters going extinct from their own lethargy… I mean pharmaceutical or dietary advantages.
If wildlife cares not to thrive, then it should die. It is the way things work.
And I am very well aware about Koala bear diets, we have them locally here, several zoos and wildlife preserves… swear, my part of the country has more tigers than India.
You don’t say…
HA!
Most cats I’ve known are noticeably more intelligent than many people I’ve known.
Aye - and ducks too.