Mainstream scientists are in denial

Mainstream scientist are in denial because they have to accept that magic initiated their science or the starting philosophy that they adopt for it is incorrect.

They aren’t allowed starting philosophies because initiators are one-offs. Science only studies repetitions ever since it divorced from philosophy (reality). That’s why they very ironically worship the mystical Singularity.

It was the first of times. It was the last of times.

You are wrong Ichthus…Mainstream science claims that moral absolutes do not exist and have never existed.It claims that the forces of good and evil do not exist as a starting point for all of their cognitively biased theories.It claims this because it’s an anti God Science.It freely admits this for goodness sake…Wake up!!! Mainstream science KNOWS that it can’t prove the starting philosophical statement that it applies to all of its science one way or the other but it chooses to apply it to all its scientific theories anyway .Why are you overcomplicating it.We all know what the moral philosophical claim is that all of mainstream science is founded upon.

The issue with this is that it has taken this philosophical assumption into its cognitively biased science and is still claiming that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes don’t exist and never have existed because according to their claims,they all cancel out.

It knows that it hasn’t proven this yet and is relying on the backing of the masses to continue on with their charade until they do.This is why they have invented the word ELECTROMAGNETISM as a non existent force to cover their ass.

ELECTROMAGNETISM is just a word….lol

Well. You do have folks who very oddly try to ground values in science, like Paul & Patricia Churchland [is that their name(s)]?

But the GOOD is the HOW (ironically, science is a how)… how to authentically (truthfully) WHY (that’s where the real value is located). That’s a no-no for science divorced from reality (truth). They are in denial that a true why drives their method, so they end up speaking a LOT of ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!!!

You can’t say that good and bad moral absolutes don’t exist until you can PROVE that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force ABSOLUTES!!! cancel out.

Mainstream science can’t prove how attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes cancel out Ichthus.Its as simple as that.

Mainstream scientists are relying on the masses to trust them……lol……yeah right……lol

Are you foolish enough to trust anti god scientists who claim that everything exists and is a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion) …rather than God?… lol……Really???

You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.You are a liar who exists if you claim that you don’t exist.

I think a big piece of the disagreement here is mixing up 2 very different claims:

(1) Descriptive claims about physics (charges, fields, forces).

(2) Normative claims about morality (good/bad, God, meaning).

Science (as a method) can do a great job with (1), but it doesn’t automatically settle (2). Whether moral absolutes exist is a meta-ethical question (moral realism vs anti-realism), not something you can prove or disprove by measuring electric charges.

On the physics side: attractive/repulsive forces are absolutely part of Maxwell’s equations and are observed constantly. When people say things “cancel out” they usually mean net charge or net field in some configuration can be ~0, not that the forces “don’t exist”.

“Electromagnetism” isn’t a made-up patch; it’s the unified description of electricity + magnetism (and it makes extremely precise predictions).

If you want to argue for moral absolutes (or for God), I’d suggest keeping that argument on the philosophical side: what is the ontological status of value? what makes a moral claim true? how do we know? Those questions don’t require denying modern physics.

What specific claim from “mainstream science” are you targeting here: moral anti-realism, physicalism, or something like “everything is illusion” (which is not a standard scientific thesis)?

Don’t just mention Maxwell and nonsense claims ……Mainstream science can’t explain how attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS cancel out in the cosmos so give it rest.BS claims don’t wash anymore or fool anyone.

If you don’t think philosophy and science are connected then this is further PROOF for representation of reality (non illusionary) science that misrepresentation of reality (illusion) scientists haven’t the first clue what they are talking about.

If misrepresentation of reality (illusion) science wants to make the anti God philosophical claim that good and bad moral absolutes don’t exist at the start of science then let it proceed with its false claim that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force ABSOLUTES don’t exist at the start of science in its psychotic delusions as well and let it proceed with its foolish misrepresentation of reality (illusion) science.

ELECTROMAGNETISM isn’t a force.

GRAVITY isn’t a force.

STRONG and WEAK NUCLEAR are not forces.

They are the inventions of psychotic misrepresentation of reality (illusion) scientists who have no idea how representation of reality (non illusion) science works.

E=mc2 is total nonsense.

The only way energy and BINARY DATA is produced in the cosmos is by the vibratory interactions of spinning particles.

The only way that scientists can understand anything at all is down to vibration because vibration is the means by which God communicates binary data knowledge between the physical and metaphysical.

Perhaps, but being in denial can be much safer than being in de Nile.

It makes logical sense that an anti-God misrepresentation of reality starting philosophy in relation to good and bad moral absolutes will then go on to invent its own misrepresentation of reality (illusion) science that is founded upon this starting philosophy to try and back it up.This is precisely what’s happened.

The only science that works is founded upon a full logic starting philosophy such as computer and motor technology.

All of science that is founded upon a half logic starting philosophy that doesn’t adopt attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes ONLY and is trying to disprove GOD with other non existent forces invented by psychotics such as cosmology and particle physics doesn’t work and is presently being totally humiliated exactly as the bible predicts.

Woe to those who claim good is evil and evil is good….Isaiah 5:20

When you dig deep you realise that mainstream science is totally aligned with the religion of Buddhism and makes no secret of this ….This scientific cult has even got a statue of “Shiva” (this religions God) proudly displayed outside its scientific HQ in CERN near Geneva.There certainly isn’t a biblical cross displayed outside because mainstream science freely admits that it’s an anti biblical God philosophy science preferring a Buddhism god philosophy science instead which doesn’t recognise the SELF as an individual and claims that everything is an illusion.It’s no surprise therefore that this religious cult has invented a misrepresentation of reality (illusionary) science for itself that in no way explains actual reality which is why all of its theories have totally failed and why mainstream science has now become a total laughing stock.You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist so mainstream Buddhism god philosophy science has all been disproven now so don’t waste your time with it.

Can you tell me, is there like a group of people that quote Bible verses and have conspiracy theories about CERN? I dated one, and I’m just wondering… what is that group called?

There is no conspiracy theory about CERN Ichthus,there never has been…..The religious cult of mainstream science OPENLY admits and has always admitted that it is totally aligned with Buddhism and its god of Shiva’s philosophy and science.It has been mocking the masses with its misrepresentation of reality (illusionary) science for 300+ years or more now.You and the masses are merely waking up to it.Mainstream science and all of it’s failed theories are a farcical joke and everyone knows it now.

The masses have had their fingers in there ears doing the lalala’s until now because they didn’t want to hear the truth…they want to hear it now….Nikola Tesla warned the world about Einstein’s nonsense failed theories years ago but it wouldn’t listen and the world has gone from bad to worse since then and we are now witnessing a total moral decline to robotic level reasoning.……as I say the masses are slowly waking up to the lies they have been told and are definitely listening now that’s for sure.