My Letter To Senator Lindsey Graham

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Senator Lindsey Graham,

The public is aware of the ongoing collusion between the Media, the Democrats and the Republicans in Washington, DC, regarding “what we know is fictitious” Russian espionage to disqualify Donald Trump as President and invalidate the 2016 Presidential election.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves and all your fabricated evidence trying to deceive the good people of The United States Of America.

We are done buying into the Media’s lies and those liars such as yourself, Mr. Graham, featured in their corrupted coverage of the ridiculously, anti-Trump biased news. All of your collaborated attempts to subvert and undermine Donald Trump will backfire throughout his Presidency.

Donald Trump will drain your swamp.

Look familiar? Same swamp dwellers.

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For about a month after the election I felt invincible, like now the people would finally see what’s going on. But this Russia thing has me shaken again, like I was in October. It’s fascinating.

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You haven’t seen nothing yet…

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Who to mail next? top Republican in the House, Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin? Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, adding that “the Russians are not our friends.” ?

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I’ve never claimed it was fictious, if anything, I completely suspect Russia and China, perhaps a few other states to of hacked us. I just don’t think that warrants legally or even ethically a revote, given the very akeard situation it appears to be mostly factual info that the media and the Democrats have since admitted to.

We can’t cancel legitimate elections every time a leak happens and a party comes off looking like a unwiped ass, cause people are upset the other side won. Now, if there was evidence he completely rewrote the election, vote by vote, maybe I would consider it, absolutely no evidence exists.

I need something more than xenophobia to justify a Trump and Putin conspiracy as well. Let’s say in 20 years, we put sanctions on Gambia, and Gambia decides to hack the election supporting the candidate least hostile to it. Is that candidate in collusion? Hardly, likely he doesn’t know about it.

Now let’s say Gambia discovers it can’t possibly hack out electoral system, but gets inside one if the candidate’s computer server, finds nude pics and racist rants, and this candidate was previously the front runner.

Do we call for new elections, if all the info was true, was collaborated, that we had months to review and digest this, was mentioned both wats during presidential debates, including unfair collusion, etc, before practically the whole voting populace, every news paper, etc?

I can see the logic for a recount on the first, never the second case. Hillary lost for being a little shit, nothing came out after the elections we weren’t told by Hillary herself in the first.

Furthermore, you’ll likely have far more enraged trump supporters mobilizing in a new election than Hillary supporters. Trump has come off increasingly looking good, while Hillary is still terrible Hillary. Would Sanders get to say he us running in her place? Doubt it. She would loose by a even wider majority in swing states.

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You don’t have to claim its fictitiousness, I do though. The swamp dwellers have joined forces to entrap Trump. There is no evidence that they haven’t invented.

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No, you can give besides demonstrable evidence (none currently, merely hacking inti the DNC isn’t proof Russia hacked the voting booths and changed it) other forms that Congress and/or the Supreme Court would likely immediately disregard, given our common law emphasis of evidence, I can’t see parluanrntry proceedure in Congress or common law precedent for the supreme court ever in a million years accepting the heresay heterics of the left on mere fairness, as we pointed out several times, they have no standing, nothing appears to been done illegally by trump, public knew of the aquisations well in advance, no evidence at all of voting fraud by any foreign country has occurred, those arguments being rejected in several states officially.

Look this over, it is a short wiki:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_(law

I can’t see a form of evidence being presented that survives first amendment scrutiny. It was given to wikileaks, given to the news media, openly discussed and debated for months. This isn’t even a after the election surprise, Hillary herself addressed this in the debates. The way people voted must have the higher validity, not a judge or Congress to overturn a legitimate election.

For a case like this, we would have to publically know the specifics of the hack, how we detected and diagnosed it as Russian, explain how it had to be them and not just wikileaks. Nobody would accept a closed door debate. Further, supreme court us half Republicans, half Democrats. If they can’t agree, Trump still wins. Hillary would need a overwhelming 5 judges who agree against all common law precedent that the here say hysteria is right, and that Trump’s factually correct statements are wrong in regards to his rights, then they would have to pull out of their ass completely a scheme for a reelection cycle, one we have no constitutional precedent for, then watch as Obama and Biden’s term expire, and hope to dear hell that acting President Paul Ryan goes along with this, or Congress accepts the supreme courts massive overstep of it’s powers.

Supreme Court can take any case, even brand new concepts and try them, but can’t come up with solutions outside of the scope of the constitution. Likewise, Congress can decide whatever if wants,but the supreme court will slap it all down if it doesnt fit the constitution.

99.99999% Trump is President, or Ryan becomes it until the House sats enough and makes Trump president.

Republicans control literally everything, and this can and us backfiring horribly for democrats. Everyone sees them as crooks, and is more justified than ever to investigate Hillary once in office. She is Cataline.

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Paul Ryan’s in on this BS.

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Well, if they succeed in bringing this to court, and by court I mean the House, it will be awkward, cause he will have to switch out mid way through and go be president tillit is resolved.

If the supreme court takes the case, and no judge swears him in, he would be sworn in till this is resolved.

I see no way of resolving it either way legally short of Trump winning.

Period.

People don’t grasp how impossible it is.

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Why would the Washington Republicans want to resolve it?

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Because they can’t maintain a acting president as the president, there is president for this.

President gets 1 FULL term per election. His term starts upon swearing in. Nobody is sworn in, leader of the house becomes acting president. That lasts until the real president, who won the election is sworn in. No new federal election for the president occurs, but congressional elections will. If Republicans try to stall forever, I guarantee you, they will be systematically removed in election recalls as well as on normal election days.

If Democrats stall forever, Democratic party will collapse under same tidal stresses.

Likewise, Supreme Court would continue to decline.

Ironically, democrats have the most to gain by a very fast resolution. Justices like Ginsburg are not immortal, can die any time.Dragging out a Trump election for 2 or 3 years meabs Trump… Still gets 4 years, and he almost certainly still wins by the way, odds are heavily stacked against a legal maneuver to invalidate this election,and he gets to run again after that.

That means instead of 8 years of republican control, Republicans control 6-12 years the Supreme Court picks.

This ehole time, nit a single vote in the election will change. Legally no new ekection can be called. Every law favors Trump in terms of evidence. Perhaps magically the democrats can steal control of tge senate abd house in new elections,but they will still ve facing a really pissed off Trump as president, evebtually. Ge won the election, fair and square… even considering the russian hacking claims.

Niw, if this lasts decades, and everyone dies, then President Ryan will be Caesar, as no term limits exist for acting presidents, and by then everyone will be living in the Kevin Costner movie The Postman outside of DC, where Ryan will rude around on golden chariots.

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Corrupt Trumps president. They are not playing by the rules yet you keep insisting that they are or will.

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Wait, if the CIA admits that Russia hacked us, then it would be giving up valuable tools and making them useless. The programs to learn about hacking will be similar to the programs to hack. Making this public will weaken the CIA. Would it not be in the CIA’s best interest and the USA’s by extension, that no hacking is reported?? Other countries will begin to question integrity.

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It’s all a contrived sham without shame by those Washington Swamp dwellers.

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You can say it, just can’t report it.

Usually Congress would have a closed session, but you can’t exactly disqualify a presidential election in secret session, and trump would certainly be entitled to a redress in the supreme court, given Congress lacks the power to invalidate federal elections and call for new ones, and I can’t imagine the supreme court going secret session for it’s most important case in it’s history, hard to derive president from a secret trial, and wouldn’t provide closure. We would end up without a federal executive at that point. How likely do you think your state would be to accept Hillary after all that? Big chunk of the nation wouldn’t recognize her, doubt the military would salute her, she certainly wasn’t elected. She be calling around to governors, and they would ask how the fuck she got on the red phone, it belongs to the president only.

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It’s not going to be a democrat, it will be a republican. Can the current supreme court case end with a tied verdict on all this nonsense, since a justice is missing?

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The CIA will investigate what Obama tells them to investigate, and announce what Obama tells them to announce. That’s how the CIA works, that’s why they exist. Obama would absolutely use them to announce the election had been hacked if there was any evidence to suggest such, but he has repeatedly said the opposite.

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Obama will croon a different Russian tune soon.

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Obama can control the When, not the What of a CIA Announcement, and Congress has congressional oversight, and of all the parts of government, think the CIA would be most brutally treated if Congress had a uncooperative investigation, or caught lying. You can spend some jail time for that.

CIA doesn’t do a lot of press conferences. I don’t recall one, like, ever. I don’t know, maybe do do weekly, I just never heard of one.

If this goes to the Supreme Court, and it is deadlocked, then the election stands valid, as no lower court exists to return the case to. Maybe they will say return it to Congress, as Congress “can be” a court, but I never heard of this, and doubt a deadlock court would be so novel. Likewise, it would suggest Supreme Court Supremacy over Congress, and not merely a jurisdictional turf war. That’s one nasty president to start, more or less murders the congressional balance of powers.

Here is the other issue- Ginsburg’s anti-trump statements may force her to excuse herself from the court, turning it into a 3/7 court favoring Republicans, but if she sits in, and the Democrats carry, Congress may block the verdict, saying it doesn’t recognize the verdict as she didn’t excuse herself for obvious documented bias, which congress can very well do with the concept of checks and balances. It be up to Acting-President Ryan to decide if the executive backs the Supreme Court or Congress.

Are you guts starting to grasp how fucking insane this situation can get?

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I already grasp the insanity of it and all the stalls and redressing and back and forth from all committees involved. It’s already a big shit show that will leave no washington swamp dweller innocent in this whole drawn out election corruption charade. My favorite part will be them trying to pin this on Trump and his deep Russian ties. His cabinet will never make it through their vetting in congress. One delay after another. Is Trump a double Russian spy? No that’s his wife, oops I forgot.