"my life sucks!"

people who say “my life sucks” are idiots.

life is what you make of it

you could be born with a mansion, great looks, great parents who take care of you and pay attention to you, and still think life sucks… or you could think lifes great

or

you could be born with out a home, with out any parents, and just living on the street and think life is dandy… or you could think lifes great

i believe that its just be a state of mind… where if you think that your lifes great, you can convince yourself of it… even if it does in fact suck…
on the flip side… if you have a great life, you could probably convince yourself that its terrible…

U seriously believe that?

Yes, what you say can be influenced by your state of mind, just as your state of mind will be influenced by the world around you (life). We call people who have trouble handling their reality ‘delusional’ for a reason.

well… i was using opposite extremes haha

I suppose we have the same opinion bunnyslippaz, each people possess different criterion towards life.

can you read dogmatic???

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you could be born with out a home, with out any parents, and just living on the street and think life is dandy… or you could think lifes great
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i don’t normally quote people…but i’d like to imagine that out there, somewhere, there’s a kid that was raised in a tube(he was born without parents), roaming the great american wasteland with the biggest grin on his face. i want to meet this freak of nature and shake his hand…or maybe IT’S A SHE!!! BUM BUM BUM!!!
but unseriously, yeah…life is what you make it…unless you can’t…i didn’t read that part in the rulebook so i wouldn’t know. damn lousy rules.

It appears everyone is a Sartrean here, poor people are just living in bad faith!

Let me ask you a simple question then to see if what you claim is true. Say God had asked you before you were born wheather you wanted to be a poor person or a rich person or a 50/50 chance of either: what would you choose given what you know now?

Now if you choose to be the rich or poor person then simply why? Since if it would have no affect on your personality then you would be willing to take the chance.

Yes,

I agree in some terms that those with bad luck or whatever examine their lives from a state of mind.

Its not like anyone is powerless to make a difference in their lives.

Although others can go too far in judging those who have been hit pretty bad in life and state that its just their fault. If people are to explain or turn others ideas of a miserable life around. It would be best to inspire them to make a stand for themselves. Rather than calling them names or blaming them.

This is a nice question though, I hope there is more debate on this subject.

No, they are existentialists :wink: Whether happiness is material or immaterial is up to the individual. It’s not for us to suggest all people can meditate their way to happiness. The best most people can do is to acknowledge they are not truly happy and work towards fixing this.

I feel pitty for those people who try to think themselves to happiness when deep down at the core of their soul they aren’t. I’d rather be miserable and deep than happy and superficial.

I have to disagree with you.
The simple truth is, each one of us thinks our “life sucks.” And, “Life is” NOT “what you make of it.” That is because others are also involved in our life. More than that, it is much easier for all of us to resolve others’ problems but much less ours own. And so, where someone remarked above that, “Its not like anyone is powerless to make a difference in their lives,” YES they are powerless. Why would I live in a make believe world and say what most others believe, “Happiness is a state of mind.” It is not a state of mind because you cannot fool your mind to lie to itself, at least not for long. Happiness is simply a state of experience, of getting our heart’s desire. And when we lack something that we either need, want or desire, then if we don’t get it then we start to feel that our life sucks. And this feeling gets enhanced more when we encounter a person who has exactly what we desire but we don’t have that. At that time we forget that if this person has that then he must lack something else in his life. And others might think that our life is great but the fact is that we will still say that our life sucks if we don’t have that one thing we desire the most. That is why since no one has everything, everyone’s life sucks! :smiley:

Hmm,

A good strong view. I like what you have to say about humans being self-centered. Most are, but they hide this very well. Yes, we all desire something and we envy others who have more of what we desire. Still again I would not go too far in saying that people are powerless and are not able to get themselves out of a mess.

Well its true most of us cant get ALL of what we want, but I feel people are quite capable in getting what they NEED and even more if they believe in themselves. I mean…why be happy? why question things? why live?

Still I find it much easier to cope with things, knowing that another fellow is also having a hard time of things. Although the problem appears if you take the view that everyone else is powerless. For example this would be like someone saying “why should I try so hard to make the most out of the cards life has dealt to me”. Mind you!! people do say such things and I can tell you they are not long for this world. Or their chances are slim.

Dont get me wrong, we are powerless to a point, but not completely. If you at least cant help yourself, then try help your fellow man who is perhaps in more difficulties than you are. Be it word, action or example.

Thank you for your views BeenaJain

This is never more obvious than when an ill person is confronted with a well person; a depressed person confronted with a contented person; a bitter person confronted with a joyful person.

What the deprived person desires above anything is the state of mind that they see in others but do not have themselves. It takes a big heart to endure privations without envy, and perhaps only a few people are able to do this. I think that this is a stage of enlightenment. To value happiness in others while you suffer is a great quality. :sunglasses:

I typed in “my life sucks” into a search engine and I wound up here, and read the bit on “people who say…” and I felt… well, yeah, if optimistically, one could find another’s life and measure ones to it and say yeah, my life really doesn’t suck thaat bad…

However, I must contest, for I have lived a rather ruinous life thus far, if I may relate it, I hope it doesn’t go against the rules but this really needs to be expressed, especially the controversial nature of how we, as a people, govern ourselves, hopefully by the end of my ‘story’, you may begin to understand that our blanket laws and other means to unburdon ourselves with the responsibilities of social interaction, has a loong long way to go…

Many moons ago I was brought into this world by an upwardly mobile couple, lived a pleasant life, christmas with a hired santa knocking at the door, an antique automobile in the garage, and a shiny new one on the street, food on the table, and happiness for all. But then disaster struck, war broke out uncles were lost, my mother died from cancer et-cetera, after two horrid excursions with nannies, the state decided that single parenting wasn’t a workable function for a father, of whom shortly dies after loosing his children.

off to an orphanage, I won’t bore you with the atrocities experienced there, but suffice it to say it was a catholic orphanage, and was ironically hit by a lightening bolt, (perhaps I could thrill you with the antics of fourty 5 year olds running amok, pulling teeth for the tooth fairy, nun’s discipline rulers and tennis rackets. the promise of theatre only to be renigged, but returned after all had teared themselves to sleep. group punishments in the form of a spoonful of coffee administered one at a time… but tripe really, an annoyance.) A new orphanage, born out of another religious cult set with the times of peace and love, communal, save for the fact that a six year old must board with those twice and even thrice his age, the closest one in age being twelve. not a problem, yet, for the responsibility of having to watch that little runt, who pissed the bed and cried all the time, a baby really, nothing for the active adolescent to be saddled with. Of course I took the first chance out, much to my chagrin, to a most unholy of places, a real economic mess, anyone who’s from a mining town will know how bad this can be, but the stuff mined wasn’t as pleasant as coal or iron ore, but muck and toxin were the fare, people relishing their nights and weekends of alchohol infused fun… instantly my status was elevated to the eldest child, unfortunately, this bestowed honor was anything but… more like the hitting post, the scourge, the very reason what is wrong in this town, my hair dyed to look the same my eyes blackened for their comely appearance… yet I persevered, for the religion spoke of toils and hard earned fortunes…(again, i could iterate many of escapades and notorious situations to inflate the dispair i felt, but, the point should suffice, I expressed my discomfort to the caseworker assigned to talk to me monthly, I took my broken arm to her as proof of the turmoil i was going through, and I received a nerf football… a family friend gave a dog as a present, I becamre the dog’s provider, and poop picker, he became my friend and protector, only once though, for afterwards, having bit the hand coming to redden my face, and sending me into the next week, it became my duty, at eight years of age to hold his collar while a bullet entered his skull… another year of reckless abandon…
from this I was given reprise, a chance to perform, a new life, but alas, I was psychologically ruined, and could not express the love that my appearance spoke of, for people instantly fell in love with that cute little boy who had such a hard life… A new school every few months, a new bully to fight off…(eventually I got very good at anti-bully tactics, and was awarded the esteemed status of troubled youth.) this hard won status caught the eye of a philantropist, and the fun really began… almost clockwork orange stuff psychological babble and how I should give society a chance, but this worked as good as words often do, and I was assualted by the brigandry of yet another school and new ‘friends’ for whom I was to perform my martial skills and really get into serious problems, thus the cycle begins, for every new environ i find myself in, I become the focus of the local screwball, and would have to rely on myself for defence… yet time marched on, and much to my dismay, I became a man, i entered the service to fight for my country, and hopefully gain a post in society that is respected and perhaps welcomed… doomed to failure I met each and every nut possible and was defeated again and again, to the point of dismissal for mental reasons(yet the government saw to it, that since they were not responsible I cannot receive benefits) Homeless no friends nor family I relied upon the succor of those looking to the needs of young men on the streets, thus irrestibly drawn to the dregs of soceity, and eventually into the arms of the law. but wait, this is no tale of law breaking and fisticuffs, I landed into a family where the adults were addicts and paranoid to the most unbelievable heighths, this paranoia centered upon me and why I was not ibueing of their cashe of intoxicants, a fight ensued, guns were drawn, and I felt my life slipping away…

well, when the dust settled I found myself in a cell not with the average accusations but with some horrid crime, a crime so obscene i care not to relate, but since my life sucks so bad I shall… imagine my suprise when I was brought into a room with upholders of the law beaten and accused of child molestation, and the only way to get it to stop was… but you probably don’t care, but I do, i spent over a year incarcerated and found out that I had public defence only after I sought relief for the right to speedy trial, for after a year the remedy is release, i found myself in the custody of a kindly old judge who suggested that a sentence of two years to a maximum of ten would keep me out of trouble, in that it would serve as a means to help me build a life out of the ruin I found myself in, I agreed for it sounded very noble, and society would help repair the damage… what crap… the judge dies of old age and I end up serving the maximum sentence for a crime that would surely be a death sentence just waiting to happen while in gaol.
fortunately I surived with only minimal loss, I cannot use one hand for it is missing several appendages, officially a shop accident, unofficially, my inate sense of self defence against a mob saved my life costing me the use of one hand, lucky i suppose, but sure isn’t something I would like to do on purpose, especially when the crime accused of didn’t even take place, and was merely used as a defence for having shot someone by the ‘insert expletitive’ who almost cost me my life.

Now, I live with those who’d have me, for only a short time, for I must, because of social convention, alert the local authorities of my presence, or suffer the consequences, this notification renders me unemployable, and homeless, what I can scrounge because of my contenance, I spend perhaps unwisely on things like the internet, and food, no drink, for drink is a luxury I can ill afford, since my picture is plastered everywhere, and the chance that I am without reason, and coordination could very well spell disaster.

I realize this post is rather bland but the fact that I have been cast into the shadows, I find it really hard to be happy, and to say that my life sucks is putting it lightly.

tumualt you are a fantastic evocative writer.

the truth told well for god’s sake write a book or a film script, take the money and make a home for yourself.

just remember that all these events happened not to you but around you, your body or mind (not that these are mutually exclusive) are not truth they are just a form, if you look deep you will see you are not damaged, just holding onto the past. The past doesn’t exist nor does the future all you have is now, be in it see it and feel it. This is not hippy shit this is real. See what’s real right now and your life can no longer ‘suck’ because you are alive!

tumualt i hope all that stuff didnt actually happen to you

if it did, it sounds like your hopes of achieving all the normal dreams are dashed. having a big house, money, hot wife, youve probably accepted that you have a less than average chance of getting them. you probably already know that you need to find some other way of being happy. some other way of knowing that your life could be worse, but it is in fact better. all evidence points to the contrary for you right now.

heres my crazy idea: go volunteer in africa indefinetely. i cant say it will definetely feel good. what i can say is that those people will respect the shit out of you not because your a poor orphan whos life blows, but because you are such a great guy that you went all the way over there for no personal benefit.

but you will benefit, every smile you see is a smile you may never create here in america.

if you have nothing to lose, start giving, then youll have something to give. id say thats better than having something to lose.

You don’t have a complete freedom over your life at all. Say, you’re Jewish, Germans put you into a prison, you say:" life sucks". It’s not your doing that life sucks, you know.

If you are born with nothing or everything, you wouldn’t know what is sadness or happiness. Most of us know those stuff, because we are born with something.

well, according to you, i’m an idiot.
life does suck. life is basically an illusion, don’t read this wrong, i don’t really MEAN an illusion, just said that for lack of better word, but, we know NOTHING of a greater life style, i think there is something like that, I think us humans can actually achieve a greater sense of happiness than the highest we have now. has anyone read animal farm?
the animals were happy the way they were, working, and eating, and sleeping, thats it. they knew nothing more of what they could do, once they revolted and started to do different thigns, they realized how bad their life used to be. native americans thought life here was pretty good, they got their food, their fur, etc, we think it sucked now ebcause of tv, video games, cars, air condition etc. people in the future will think this life sucks