I have often wondered about the meaning of life and what if anything follows death.
One theory that seems quite mind bending is that life as we know it is just an experience that our spirit is having for the course of our life, please allow me to explain.
The spirit world (if there is one) will be infinite and if you take a few moments to digest infinity as in forever the one conclusion is that it is a hell of a long time.
If we are lucky we can have 80 + years on this earth and even in that miniscule amount of time we get bored and restless. Now imagine how bored we will get as an infinite being in the spirit world.
So to alleviate the boredom on drifting around forever in the spirit world we can have experiences as human beings (or any other type of lifeform) down here on earth before re-entering the spirit world on the death of our bodies.
Our spirits may choose what life they wish to enter, and ours bodies and minds may even be carrying countless spirits all experiencing our life for as long as it lasts.
Just a thought and i welcome any discussions on the theory.
I believe that what we call “I” is an data set. If there is life after death, it will be through the immortality of data. Paul once described the process as the perishable being raised imperishable. I say that actual life is perishable. Most of what we see and hear is lost, forgotten, perishes in non-sense. But ideas, data, conceptualizations we have of ourselves, these are imperishable. They are abstractions lifted from the perishable to become imperishable. The change of our bodies we ignore and live as an imperishable unit by saved data. We are the conceptual memory of ourselves projected deep into the past and into the infinite future.
I believe believing in life after death, not believing in it, or even distinguishing between between belief and non belief, equating consciousness with thought, or not, is all immaterial. Material and immaterial are of no consequence either in determening what life and death may ultimately mean, or not.
What is a fact that the OP’s concern with life and death are manifestations which do have an existence. The manifestation of life and death are irrefutable. That’s all that can be said. As manifestations go, they probably manifest something.
We are not what we see in the mirror. We are spirits. We are spirits riding these bodies like they are donkeys. Which should we guided by, the spirit or the donkey? Is our donkey riding our spirit, or our spirit riding our donkey?
When we shed these donkey bodies we will be spirit and will be free.
And there won’t be need for language, as all we’ll have to do to know each other is merge as spirits and instantly know everything ; so, no lying.
And as spirits we can travel at the speed of thought … think it and we’ll be there …
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Are our atoms and spirit one and the same? You mean to say that we are not ONLY bodies, no? Is there supposed to be something so terrible about the human body that we would chose to ignore it? Can spirits procreate?
Hmmm, I wonder what it is which creates the face which I see in the mirror, being that I am all swirling speeding along atoms? Is it simply genes and dna?
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Why the donkey? Why that animal?
This is such a profound post.
Perhaps the real issue is not which is riding which but that we have them both doing what it is they are to be doing - in perfect harmony together. While we have the donkey or are the donkey, perhaps it is of equal value to the spirit in that the spirit cannot ride without it.
I thought you said that we already were spirits? There was a time when I rode on a motorcycle - I felt quite the freedom, free on it.
Maybe it isn’t the animal which confines us but the spirit which won’t fly free.
That doesn’t sound like much fun to me. Where’s the mystery, where’s the challenge. Where’s the happy seeking after knowledge? Not to be a hedonist but a finely tuned epicurean. So, what you’re saying is is that when it’s all over with, there’s no more process, no more growth. BOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG…
The speed of thought…you just made me laugh out loud. Depending on the individual, there might not be much speed there. Let’s say the speed of light maybe.
Hosepipe isn’t out here, nor anywhere else, so citation would be lost. But yes. With embellishments.
And Arcturus Descending is provoking more.
Like saying traveling at the speed of thought, would be slow in some cases. But the slowest speed of thought is much faster than the speed of light.
The speed of light is slow, in this immense universe. Sorta like wings on angels compared jets and rockets ; very slow.
For example, it is said that Jesus ascended to heaven. They watched as he disappeared into a cloud. Even if he travel at the speed of light he wouldn’t be out of the milky way galaxy yet.
Be if Jesus could travel at the speed of thought, he’d be in heaven immediately. And he could be back in the twinkling of an eye.
I believe in something similar to this, except that the primary being from which individual human souls come into existence is not doing out of “boredom” but some other motive entirely (and we are not in a position to understand this motive). And although I agree that the world as we experience is just that (i.e. experience), this isn’t to be interpret as “not real”.
Because donkeys can be stubborn. And our bodies are like that, to our spirit bodies, if we call it that … metaphorically … if you will.
This is just a conception. Is it real? We don’t and can’t know. Just like all our celestial conceptions.
But that doesn’t mean we can’t have fun with them.
I have lots of fun with my Hog Heaven conception. I really like my hog heaven conception. It sounds so much better than the traditional conception of heaven. There only two things I like about traditional heaven : climate, and, the fact that it won’t be very crowded.
Hosepipe may be pleased to know that someone [gib] actually sees things much like he does. How often do any of us that do not adhere to a religious doctrine find anyone one who thinks like we do about religion on a variety of points?
