Is this the level of debate in the USA?
I think it might be worth pointing out that Hitler was a Christian.
I think it might be worth pointing out that Muslims died on 9/11; muslims ran to the wreckage to pull people out; they were first repsonders and some have died of since because they gave help in danger to themselves.
Hitler wasnât a Christian and its obvious 9-11 was an inside job and not done by muslims.
What??? Heâs not only a Muslim but a Communist too? Heâs evil incarnated then?? Burn him!! Burn him!! Whereâs the Inquisition when we need it the most??
Note: it is even worse than that:
âMamdani was born and raised in Kampala, Uganda, to an Indian-Ugandan academic father and Indian filmmaker mother.â
Guyâs really the complete package of evil. I say burn him now!!!
Wrong on both counts.
âHence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.â
â Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter 2
As for 9/11 being a US plot - just run along
So, yeah. This is the level of debate.
- Despite his public statements, the consensus among historians is that Hitler was irreligious, anti-Christian, and anti-clerical. Privately, he made numerous statements denouncing Christianity as superstition and socially destructive, as recorded by confidants like Joseph Goebbels and in sources such as Hitlerâs Table Talk 13.
- Hitlerâs regime actively worked to diminish the influence of Christianity in Germany, sought to coordinate Protestant churches under state control, and suppressed Catholic institutions13.
- Some close associates, such as Ernst Hanfstaengl and Otto Strasser, described Hitler as an atheist by the time they knew him, although he did not publicly renounce his Catholic baptism13.
Use of Religion for Political Purposes
- Hitler recognized the political power of religion in Germany and often used religious language and imagery to appeal to the public. He sometimes portrayed his actions as being in accordance with divine will, but this is widely interpreted as political expediency rather than genuine faith1345.
- The Nazi Partyâs âPositive Christianityâ was a tool to align religious sentiment with Nazi ideology, not a reflection of orthodox Christian belief134.
If youâre still at âHitler was Christianâ, then of course we are probably going to get â9/11 wasnât an inside jobâ level of quality as well. Stay bluepilledâŚ
They have tried to disatnce themselves from Hitler, sure but there is not doubt that he had the support of the Pope himself and his Mein Kampf was fully fledged with obesience to God âAlmightyâ.
I do not care where you got your quoted panel of flim-flam. But Iâm pretty sure that many Christians will distance themselves from Trump and his Gang too as time passes.
Hitler was obsessed with CHristianity and God.
Building 7 was, however âpulledâ. It was convenient and the owner gave prior information to a meeting in Jerusalm, which was filmed, and many experts stated that it was too clean to have been a collapse due to structural damage by fire. This does, of course, fuel comspiracy theories.
I knew this about hitler already before an ai unit had to tell you this. Its not like i believe only ai, i knew this about hitler years ago but most internet browsers delete history after a few months anyway so its not like im going to find obscure websites from years ago.
" Hitlerâs public statements sometimes referenced Christianity and God, but these were largely political and did not reflect traditional Christian belief or practice. Early in his career, Hitler publicly expressed favorable opinions toward Christian ideals, but as he gained power, he moved away from these positions and became adversarial toward organized Christianity and its institutions12.
Privately, Hitler rejected core Christian doctrines, such as the divinity and resurrection of Jesus, and saw Christianity as incompatible with his worldview21. He promoted a version of âPositive Christianityâ that stripped away most traditional Christian beliefs and recast Jesus as an Aryan figure, but this was more a tool for political unity than genuine faith1.
Most historians agree that Hitler was not a Christian in any orthodox sense. He did not practice Christianity after his youth and, by the late 1930s, had discarded belief in the Judeo-Christian God12. While he sometimes used religious language in speeches, this was for political effect, not out of personal conviction1. In private, he expressed contempt for Christianity and saw it as something to be eventually eliminated in Germany25.
In summary, while Hitler sometimes claimed to believe in God and referenced Christianity, these claims were insincere and tactical. He was not a Christian by traditional standards, and his actual beliefs and policies were hostile to Christianity and its institutions125.
Your lack of belief in 9-11 being an inside job, indicates you do not do deep dive research on these sort of things and your information is very surface level.
I mean i watched a TV-show about hitler called âman in the high castleâ where he literally bans the bible. No doubt you will say âits just a tv showâ or something like that and dismiss the research and the cultural references that laid the foundation of the show.
Christianity is what Christians do.
Hitler enjoyed the validation of the Pope whose offices assisted in the round up of Jews.
How do you feel about the Moon Landings.?
I did not Start this thread to talk about 9/11 or Hitler.
Clearly my horror at the level of politcal debate in the USA is fully justified by the twon derailing of the thread .
I mean your original post is tiny and had 3 statements. 1 statement was 9/11 and the other one hitler. But we arenât supposed to talk about it because i corrected you on the facts.
More bullshit.
No, the Pope did not fully endorse Nazism. In fact, Pope Pius XI publicly condemned Nazi ideology, especially its racism and hostility toward Christianity. While the Vatican did sign a concordat (treaty) with Nazi Germany in 1933 to protect the rights of the Catholic Church, this was not an endorsement of Nazism but an attempt to safeguard Catholic interests in an increasingly hostile environment24.
When the Nazis repeatedly violated the concordat and intensified their persecution of Catholics, Pope Pius XI responded forcefully. In 1937, he issued the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge (âWith Burning Concernâ), which was smuggled into Germany and read from Catholic pulpits. This document denounced Nazi breaches of the treaty, condemned the regimeâs racial ideology, and accused the Nazis of âfundamental hostility to Christ and His Church.â It explicitly rejected the Nazi glorification of race and state, stating that such beliefs were incompatible with Christian faith123.
The encyclical was the first major public document to confront and criticize Nazism, and it provoked a furious backlash from the Nazi regime, which responded with increased persecution of Catholic clergy and institutions123. Pope Pius XI also condemned antisemitism and the Nazi pogroms, insisting that Christians could not participate in such hatred2.
In summary, rather than endorsing Nazism, Pope Pius XI and the Vatican condemned its core ideologies and actions, especially as Nazi persecution of Catholics and others intensified.
You are wrong on both counts,
⌠and the post was about the hideous comments about a Democratic candiate which was inflamatroy and designed to generate lies and hate.
Hitlerâs views are not disimilar to American Christian Nationalism.
âHence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.â
(Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter 2)
âThe folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of Godâs will, and actually fulfill Godâs will, and not let Godâs word be desecrated.â
âAnd so I believe that I am acting as the agent of our Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am doing the Lordâs work.â
âWhat we have to fight for is ⌠the freedom and independence of the Fatherland so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.â
â Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Ch. 8 (p. 125)
âThe act which brings about such a development is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator. And as a sin this act will be avenged.â
â Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Ch. 11
Do you want to laugh?
Any mention of a nation is nationalism!
Now you can laugh: Americans and Russians are idiots. (joke, no offense)
Now seriously:
Christianity is a cross on thinking. Islam is the same as Christianity, but adapted to the mentality of Eastern peoples. In fact, the same cross in mind.
Sculptor (and others), you know that Hitler did not âdestroy the Jewsâ of his own free will?
Heâs not a communist, typical neoliberal.
Crony capitalism has been ruining the nation the last thirty five years, now everybody acts surprised that socialists are publicly in vogue. You have the failures of liberalism and conservativism both on full display now, socialism is becoming wildly popular.
Neoconservatives have nobody to blame but themselves, you have practically been worshipping the super wealthy as boot lickers for several decades now and that same super wealthy have completely run this nation into the ground.
The neoliberals arenât the answer either and when they foul all of this up as well the real communists like myself will be waiting on the sidelines to fill up the vacuum.
The collapse of the American super capitalist empire will be glorious and epic to watch. What is happening in New York City isnât surprising at all and this will be all the rage going fourth, although watching neoliberals with their socialism lite is cringy, itâs a single first step in the right direction in terms of domestic economic policy at the very least.
