No more tolerance

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10’s of millions of people are afraid. Too comfortable to actually do something about it, or they truly don’t know what to do. The pandemic is burning people out and isolating people anyway on top of the past five years of political arguments inundating every aspect of our culture. The Republicans fascist attack to destroy our democracy, our nations primary sovereign principle, is happening and continues.

I get it, it’s scary what that means. It could mean loss, for all of us, on any level imaginable though. Is it worth it to do nothing, and try to stay out of it? That’s exactly how Nazis got in power. Even then, the Nazi party had less than half of the nations support. But people stayed out of it. Most did nothing while the rabid deluded Nazis ensured absolute power… It’s real and it can lead to a lot of death, not just through fighting but chaos of broken supply chains because democracy gets shattered and Republicans usurp power.

They were real close… and we almost had the biggest breakdown of our entire nation just a year ago. Yeah, I get it, we’re comfortable. Most people don’t discuss these things in day to day interactions, we do have, our lives to tend to. The change has really come rather quickly for most and millions are stunned why their attack is still happening in multi faceted ways just the same as when it began… and they’re still plotting how to do it again. They’re getting more brazen about their disregard for our nation and that is really a disregard for lives. The national reckoning is still happening…. But every moment it’s still happening, is just another moment that the new fascist movement, with minimal shame, grows in strength.

What you can do, is disown anyone who is a Trump supporter. Family, friends. Cut them off, they need to understand that their path to instill fascism in our country is not tolerated. Vote. Vote in every election that you are able to. Speak out, often, on facebook.

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‘There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the time comes.’ —Ernest Hemingway
A quote I shared before, but it seems the time has come.

Some Trump supporting family of mine are having issues understanding why I would disown family for supporting Trump, after the failed coup attempt that he praises. After the terrorist Ashli Babbit was shot in our capital attempting to overturn our democracy a year ago on Jan 6th, Trump has done nothing but support and honor her and blast the agent who killed her, who was obviously justified in his actions. But Trump wants to martyrize her for the continued fascist effort to destroy American democracy and really, destroy the country, because she died attempting to support his fascist coup and that coup attempt is still persisting in every facet that Republicans can muster.

So, the fact that Trump supports these terroristic propagandized maniacs should be more than enough for anyone to think twice about supporting this guy any further… Unless you support fascism. Well, that being the case, I can understand supporting Trump. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to accept that. By any standard of who we are as a civilized society, supporting fascism is supporting the destruction of law and order in the country. When votes no longer matter, laws no longer matter, and only those in charge decide what is legal and what is not - as all the rules don’t matter anymore. Democracy is the crux of the nation, of our laws, of our order.

While some may “believe” that Biden stole the election, I understand that may cause one to have a real need to support the coup attempt, the violence, the willful destruction of our democracy because to them it is already destroyed. Yet that is an extraordinary claim that has no evidence to back it up. The adage “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” is very prevalent in my mind here. We saw audit after audit verify the integrity of the election. There was frivolous and bogus Lawsuit after lawsuit thrown into the system to try to overturn the election results, leading to sanctions on their lunatic Trump lawyers Sidney Powell and Lin Wood and fining them, but their legal troubles are far from over now and so is their ability to practice law is probably over. Not only did Trump attempt to to overturn the election through the incitement of a coup, it occurred through any possible way they could, pressuring people to not certify the election, pressuring people to find votes that didn’t exist, forging documents electoral votes are coming to light and the extent of this fascist coup attempt is still coming to light.

The voter fraud of course, came mostly from individual Trump supporters who have been propagandized into thinking that Democrats vote twice or vote for their dead relatives in order to win, so they themselves attempted it and of course got caught. Believing the election was stolen is one thing, but condoning violence and inciting violence based on that belief with no evidence to back it up is another, and the end result of that is fascism, further disorder, further violence en masse, and grounds for a civil war in a fight for democracy and against democracy.

Now, I know these things, and you should know these things, because they have a very real effect on our future and our understanding of what we as a people need to do in order to prevent the nation from collapsing into absolute fascist chaos and violence. Yet, people in my own family don’t seem to understand this and don’t understand how I disowned them for someone “who they voted for”. Its not “who they voted for”… its for what they continue to support, which is Trump, who obviously supports violence and fascism by his praise of Babbit, among other reasons. I don’t need to list all the reasons, because that alone is reason enough. Its simple really. Supporting Trump is supporting fascism, the terroristic coup that already occurred, and the next terroristic coup that will occur, and that is not something I will accept from anyone.

As Trump himself stated “I spoke to the wonderful mother and husband of Ashli Babbitt, who was murdered at the hands of someone who should have never pulled the trigger of his gun,”
Well, he should never have pulled the trigger of the gun if he wanted to defend our democracy. But its a good thing he did, as that angry horde had a stash of weapons, handcuffs and many had plans to kill anyone, including Mike Pence, in order to prevent the certification of Joe Biden as president. Now, with no proof of a fraudulent election and all evidence pointing towards a free and fair election occurring, as verified by the audits and bogus lawsuits that went nowhere, as evidenced by the various ways trump tried to keep power by any means at his disposal, it’s ENTIRELY IRRESPONSIBLE to continue to support Trump, who condoned the violence to destroy our democratic processes. Obviously, the end result of continuing to support that is not just irresponsible and dangerous for us all, it is obvious fascism.

If you know a Trump supporter, why would you accept that as a part of your life when their existence is a threat to all of our lives, ultimately? I would guess its time for those who support Trump to understand though, that its time for those to understand that fascism is not a dirty word to them, but something they embrace. That time has come

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Shut up, Fascist.

You better hope Karma isn’t real.

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Historically, of course, when it comes to putting bullets in the brains of Fascists and Nazis, that’s exactly what the Allies were aiming to accomplish throughout the Second World War.

So, in regard to the Trump Republicans who are in the general vicinity of Fascism and the Nazis, should they seize control of the government and dismantle democracy – even crony capitalism democracy – do they deserve a bullet in the brain?

And how about you, Urwrong? How close to or far away from the Fascists and Nazis are you in regard to, say, issues of race, gender, sexual orientation, Jews, the role of government.

Just out of curiosity.

Where do you fit in here in regard to, for example, a might makes right, right makes might or moderation, negotiation and compromise approach to political power?

Given particular contexts.

As for the possibility of actual Fascism in America, that would seem to come down to the military, paramilitary and police forces. If by and large they can be persuaded to back Trump’s policies, it would be a piece of cake.

I think basically it comes down to how dire things get in the country. If the economy were to collapse and/or a far more virulent strain of covid were to impale us and/or civil unrest were to explode in turn, it would be far more likely.

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I don’t have anything nice to say to you Fascists and Nazis threatening to kill the American people and our Nation.

Fuck you.

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Fuck you? Sounds kind of fascist to me. Or, perhaps, just plain…dumb?

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Yes, he’s dumb and propagandized. Not worth talking to.

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True, but still worth making a fool of.

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A fool is somebody who threatens to put bullets into people’s heads, and then calls others fascist:

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Again, the democratic allies during the Second World War not only threatened to put bullets into the brains of Fascists and Nazis, they did so repeatedly over and over and over again. Used tanks and artillery shells, mortars and rockets, bombed them mercilessly from the skies. And all because these Fascists and Nazis were hell-bent on demolishing democracies around the globe and installing their own fulminating fanatic totalitarian regimes.

Now, if Trump and his ilk are intent on pursuing what some construe to be Fascists/Nazi policies here in America, will it come down here as well to actual warfare?

And, again, what would the Urwrongs and his ilk here pursue in regard to their own intentions if they were ever to seize control of the government here in America? Relating to things like race, gender roles, sexual orientation, the Jews, political opponents and the like.

They will either put up here or shut up themselves.

Or, sure, continue to be made fools of.

Well, if I do say so myself of course.

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Remember retards, threatening to kill American citizens is illegal.

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Come on, wouldn’t you feel like a fool posting drivel like this?

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K: as you are not an American, no problem…

Kropotkin

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I’m pretty sure it was illegal to threaten to kill Hitler.

Here’s the deal man. I’m more of a soft power guy.

That’s not the issue here.

The issue is right in front of our eyes even if the insurrection never occurred.

“Fake news”

And

“Deep state”

Are right out of hitlers playbook… seriously!

The press lies and those in government cannot be trusted, unless you agree with me (who actually has never taken a stance on anything coherent).

That’s some nasty shit trump is trying to pull.

He’s doing the same thing Hitler did as well.

Waited for the country to sink into a depression before he emerged as their messiah.

This is exactly what Nazi germany did.

And then blame innocent people (in their case, the Jews) on all the worlds problems…

In our case, the liberals.

To be perfectly honest… I’m absolutely astounded that this country was great enough to withstand Trumps attempt to destroy it. It’s severely crippled, but still there nonetheless.

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My grandfather defeated you Nazis. And you will be defeated a second time.

If Carleas will not address death threats and threats of violence on this forum, then maybe we need to contact the Authorities to deal with you?

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Who, on this forum, is calling for formation of the Master Race?

Who, on this forum, is calling to gas Jews?

Who, on this forum, is threatening to kill those who disagree with them?

Fucking retards.

Quote it.

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You Nazis will be dealt with.

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It’s called evolution …

Go figure… people are more sophisticated now than they used to be. But they still can’t hide themselves.

Trump can’t hide.

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Mr. Consent Violation wants to kill people he disagrees with. Go figure. You’re scum, Ecmandu. You Nazis will be defeated a 2nd time.