A) Biden wins both the popular and electoral vote by a wide margin.
Trump concedes and a peaceful transition of power occurs.
Biden doesn’t lock the country down, impose mandatory masks, a mandatory Covid vaccine when it becomes available or any other radical leftwing policies.
For better or worse, the country gradually returns to something like the political and socioeconomic normalcy of previous administrations; the Obamas, Bushs, Clintons, etcetera.
B) Biden wins both the popular and electoral vote by a wide margin.
Trump concedes and a peaceful transition of power occurs. However, shortly thereafter Biden locks down the country, imposes mandatory masks, a mandatory Covid vaccine when it becomes available and other radical leftwing policies, plunging the economy into a deep depression.
Mass civil unrest ensues, especially among republicans and in red states, prompting Biden to declare martial law.
Some red states like Texas attempt to secede from the union, the military fractures into two or more warring factions as 3%ers, Oath Keepers and other rightwing militias do battle with Antifa and BLM on the streets.
C) Biden apparently wins both the popular and electoral vote but by a narrow margin.
Trump refuses to concede, citing what he and his lawyers claim is mass voter fraud.
The dispute goes all the way to the supreme court.
After some deliberation and examination of the alleged fraud, the supreme court, now comprising 6 republicans and only 3 democrats, declares Trump the victor.
Nancy Pelosi, John Podesta and the other dems refuse to concede, claiming the supreme court and republican party have been compromised, infiltrated and subverted by Russians.
They hold their own inauguration, declaring Biden, or Pelosi to be the real president.
Washington, Oregon and California attempt to secede from the union and civil war ensues.
D) Trump wins the electoral vote but loses the popular vote by a wide margin.
Dems refuse to concede on the grounds that a 2nd Trump term would be an absolute disaster and he doesn’t have the mandate of the people, the west coast attempts to secede and civil war breaks out.
E) Trump wins the electoral vote and either loses the popular vote by a narrow margin or wins it too.
Dems concede.
Trump maintains many of his policies while expanding others.
Dems and neocons continue to resist them, promoting their conspiracy theories and the odd riot breaks out, but the people have spoken, America, and perhaps the rest of the world too are fed up with globalism and for better or worse, increasingly turn to more isolationist, nativist and protectionist policies and leadership, to a multipolar world where America, the UN and other internationalist/multinationalist institutions/corporations are no longer the center.
The international state of diplomatic cohesion falls apart in response to the civil war raging in the United States , and other countries also break into internal strife.
Suddenly, Iran attacks Israel in surprise , and Israel retaliates with nuclear force
President Trump , without Congressional approval attacks Iran and North Korea.
After that WWW commences, and full employment is restored.in the US, as most states regain stability. President Trump attains FDR stature, and heads the allied countries against the various provocations occurring world wide.
China declares war on the allies and Russia remains on the sidelines, staging some provocation.
The the Middle East is in flames, Covid is raging, the US attacks California, deposing it’s governor.
Roseanne Barr becomes the new Hanoi Jane, as ordinary citizens take to the streets
The US is overwhelmed by internal dissent, and the Antichrist declares himself.
The Chinese Flu rages on, and the Tribulation assumes biblical proportions.
Note: this is a description of the worst possible scenario.
F) Trump wins both the electoral and popular vote by a landslide but Biden refuses to concede claiming mail in voter fraud and suppression until the Supreme Court announces Trump’s victory in mid December.
G) intelligent extraterrestrial lifeforms from a potassium depleted planet enter earth’s orbit, announce they’re presence in a peaceful manner, and attempt to communicate with world leaders. Trump imposes tariffs on the aliens, pisses them off, and then they destroy everything… starting with the trump tower.
Yes, if America was mired in civil war, countries formerly kept in check by America, like Russia, Iran, China and North Korea would be freer to assert themselves.
Russia could try to retake some of its former Soviet territories in eastern Europe (the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine), the caucuses and central Asia, altho western Europe and its allies, Canada and Australia may try to counteract them.
Iran could get together with its allies and attack Israel, altho it’s unclear if they would, or who would prevail if they did, as Israel has nukes and thanks in large part to the US, one of the most well equipped and well trained armies in the world, as well as other allies in the west.
China could try to take Kashmir, and Singapore and Taiwan, as it sees them as fundamentally Chinese, as mere extensions of itself.
North Korea could attack South Korea or Japan.
Wannabe states like ISIS could also try to reassert themselves in Mesopotamia and the Levant.
The world order we had for the last 75 years would collapse, and it would probably take decades before a new order emerges, that is if civilization itself didn’t completely collapse first.
Would China emerge as the number one military and socioeconomic power, or someone else, perhaps the EU, or would power have to be shared evenly?
Of course no one knows who’d win a 2nd American civil war, if anyone.
Trump could win, dems and neocons could.
Whoever won could reshape America and, if America somehow managed to ultimately maintain their military and socioeconomic supremacy, the wider world more as they see fit.
Would Trump restore democracy after winning, would Pelosi and the dems?
Foreign nations could get involved, indirectly or directly.
Of course right leaning nations would be more inclined to help republicans and left leaning dems.
It could end up in a stalemate, where the union dissolves and balkanizes.
The west coast could permanently split from the union, becoming the Pacific States of America, if you will.
Likewise the northeast coast could permanently split, becoming the Atlantic States.
The rest of the states may remain loyal to Trump and the republicans.
On the other hand, the US could completely collapse, leaving it wide open to be conquered by Russia, China, the EU or all three.
If the EU were to conquer the US, they would probably try to restore it to something like what it was, but of course the EU would wear the pants in this new relationship.
No matter what happens, even if there’s no civil unrest let alone civil war, America’s standing in the world is waning, and it’s not all Trump’s fault, I don’t think it’s his fault at all, it’s because of America’s many blunders abroad and at home over the last couple of decades.
I think we’re going to see the US, the EU and the western world at large turn increasingly inward, needing to resolve our own problems, less able to be solve, or give the rest of the world problems.
[b]''The weeks following the election could very well be the most dangerous weeks in this country since the Civil War.
'If Donald Trump should lose, he may well not concede. And he will still be president, with all the power that bestows. His supporters will likely be seething, thinking that the election has been stolen. These are seeds he has been sowing for months.
'Trump will have command of the military, the Justice Department and part of the intelligence apparatus.
'He already knows that the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., is investigating his dodgy finances. Trump knows he could face charges as soon as he leaves office — and he won’t be federally pardoned.
'He has tasted power and can’t imagine a world in which it was withdrawn from him. A loss would be a supremely embarrassing rebuke, the first sitting president not to win re-election in 28 years.
'The pandemic will still be raging, but Trump, who has consistently downplayed it and tragically mismanaged it, will feel absolutely no obligation to contain it.
Democracy isn’t a given, they come and go.
If civil war does break out, followed by a partial socioeconomic collapse, it’s possible both dems and republicans may lose.
A 3rd man, perhaps a military man may appear on the scene.
Ideologically he may be somewhere on the far right, or far left, or he may not be ideological at all, a pragmatist, someone who’s willing to do anything and everything it takes to secure power for himself and stabilize the country, someone unrestricted, not confined by ideology, nor the constitution and rule of law.
For democracy to continue to exist, long term, it needs certain conditions.
It needs an armed, informed and politically active and engaged public.
It needs critical thinkers, not pawns manipulated by academic, economic and political elites.
A people’s strength waxes and wanes.
One region falls while another rises from the ashes.
While some cultural diversity and even division can be healthy for democracy, so it doesn’t stagnate, this idea that we can just keep piling on the diversity ad infinitum is ludicrous.
There has to be some common ties that bind, at the very least a commitment to democracy itself, to the constitution and rule of law.
While both the left and right held these values in common, I’m not so sure anymore.
The right still seems to, but the left, with its constant rioting, the tearing down of monuments, no longer seems committed.
In a deeply divided America, culturally divided, economically, the rich never richer, the poor never poorer in living memory, in a multicultural, or anti-racist America, with mass illegal immigration, refugees, uneconomic migrants, where asking immigrants to assimilate, even a little bit, is verboten, where a culture is hated by its own people, perhaps only a strongman could hold this cluster fuck together.
It could be a third man, not a dem, nor a republican, a military man, or perhaps Trump himself could be that man.
Maybe that’s what Trump had in mind all along, or maybe that’s what the dems have in mind for themselves.
I’m not advocating anything here, merely exploring possibilities.
The only thing I’m sure of is, if America is to survive and continue to thrive, it needs to make some bold changes, what has worked for the last 75 years isn’t working, I think practically all of us can agree on that.
Trump did attempt to make some changes, but whether they were the right changes or enough ultimately remains to be seen, for most on the left they were the wrong changes, for many on the right they weren’t enough.
But even if America does survive, democracy, liberty and prosperity, mostly or sufficiently intact, I don’t think the rest of the 21st century will continue to be the American century.
It’s a different world now, a more multipolar world, where there isn’t a sole superpower that can just dictate to the world this and that, what’s what.
And that’s part of what Trump represents, America disengaging from the world a bit, letting it take care of itself, putting American interests first, as he puts it.
I think in that respect the Trump admin has taken a few steps in the right direction, but more needs to be done.
America needs to stop prying, stop bullying other nations.
That being said, America does have a role in the world to play.
Invading Iraq was the wrong move based on lies, all these ventures in the middle east were, however arming Taiwan so it can defend itself against an increasingly aggressive and hostile China, that was the right move.
A second civil war… despite having a capable military?
A coup? how exciting… who is this guy? he sounds adorable…
It sounds like the current course of events might miraculously lead to your above scenario coming to fruition… perhaps not. Though… like Iambiguous, America is fractured… especially by recent design, and that might call for military intervention… but long-term and with or without agreement by the Senate?
It’s not like the military haven’t ever been installed here, during the IRA era and Falklands War etc., but it wasn’t to over-throw the Government but to resolve situations of unrest. I could see that happening…
“non-scalable” fence will reportedly be installed around the White House one day before ballots are cast on Tuesday as concerns mount over potential unrest on Election Day.
According to CNN, the fence will be similar to the barrier that was erected along the White House’s perimeters earlier this year amid widespread protests following the police killing of George Floyd in late May.
The fence will reportedly go up on Monday around the Ellipse and Lafayette Square, on 15th Street and Constitution Avenue NW, as well as 17th Street and on H Street NW.
The Hill reached out to the White House for comment.