God has some answers for you on this subject.
Go talk with Him.
What’s the cultural element of E=mc^2?
Look, this is ridiculous. What on Earth is ‘objective knowledge’? An insight into the fundamental nature of reality? An insight into an absolute truth? What, then, is absolute truth?
People know a lot of things. We know that E=mc^2. This is an experimentally verified result. What we don’t know is that this relationship will obtain is every experiment. But we know that, in the domain of experience in which we have tested it, that E=mc^2. Anybody arguing with this is just being needlessly antagonistic. It is a truth, a truth from a human perspective and in human domains, but its a truth nonetheless. Now - I ask you, why do we need anything more?
Another example: we know the speed of light in a vacuum is approx 3x10^8 m/s. Again, maybe one day we’ll obtain a different value in another experiment. Anyway, we know this to be true.
I know facts about myself: when I am hungry, when I am thirsty. I know facts about other people: what they are doing today, what they are wearing. I know facts about the world: Edinburgh is the capital of Scotland, the Sahara desert is usually dry.
In short: people know a lot.
On ILP there are an awful lot of people spending an awful lot of time attacking viewpoints that nobody holds, or should hold.
I think philosoph can be understood in many ways, but somewhere the knowledge we acquire should be put into practice. Being critical about statements, words and opinions only makes us stronger to defend our own beliefs. We are mortal beings in an infinite universe, and basically we are not able to understand anything, but still we can not ignore that there are things that we can label as true within our limited human reality. I would take the post stated again below even further, and say that even things we can not see could be labelled as objective knowledge in our reality. Is justice something or nothing? (sokrates). Ignoring the fact (would this be objective to say?) that it could mean something completely different within different civilizations.
Labelling knowledge as objective is fine. I distinguish between objective and subjective knowledge all the time. The point is that all knowledge requires a knower and a known. Without a knower there is no knowledge, thus all knowledge (both ‘subjective’ and ‘objective’) is subjective.
no it means that it is impossible to verify if the knowledge we have is objective or not.
objective Knowledge starts with the ability to understand the fundamentals of objective knowledge , which is the ability to think without any emotionial prejudices , to see things as they are
and as well to admit when one makes a mistake and as well the lack of reason
too many times people just see what they want to see , this is a subject knowledge
what objective knowledge is , is that knowledge which they over-look because of their subjectiveness , and then become more reasonable
objective knowledge is about the abiltiy to think in a sound reasonable manner about the knowledged presented
balanced thinking
objective knowledge is something that is universally true. Not trivial things like abortions are for killing babies, but about the reality of existence… how things actually work… what we actually are…
things which we can never know because of our limited existence experience…
Objective knowledge is not for us to know so to speak. but i believe that if we were able to sit down and have conversation with god (hypothetically) he would be able to explain a few things to us objectivley…
subjectivity is the knowledge which rises from our xperiences. What we think is true like “the sun is yellow” might not be true…
We don’t even see the world… what we see is a facsimilie generated by our optical neervs and somehow projected infront of the conciousness like a video camera…
We could all be beings of electricity for all we know, and this world is the result of how it interacts with itself.
This could all be an illusion… Ever watch the matrix?
Objective knowledge can only be arrived at by knowing everything there is to know.
Subjective knowledge is arrived at and continues to develop as we gain more knowledge.
subjectivity and objectivity aren’t all that complicated…
yes and no
objective knowledge can be based on local knowledge , this planet for example
we know that without water or air we , as we are right now , our physiology , will die
common Wonderer
think about it ! think about all the daily things you HAVE TO DO to stay alive
huh? like eat breathe sleep and shit?
what if we’re not really doing any of that because we live in the matrix?
our “objective” knoowledge would be big time wrong.
Objective knowledge is only possible if one become omniscient, not bounded by finity
lol “finity”. I think thats a word first, but yes, our finite nature prevents from ever reaching an objective understing…
Haha, I assumed it is. You know Infinite = Infinity, Finite = Finity, haha.
And yes our finiteness is bounded by our finite understanding. Nothing more. How we observed and experienced immediate causes affect the body of our knowledge. We are what we experience.
To have objective knowledge one needs to be the essence of the universe itself! Which well make you a god or something.
maybe not a god, but perfect in some way.
How could it be considered subjective?
What is objective knowledge?
I can’t think of many objective instances of knowledge and most objectivists to me seem in reality to be subjectivists only.
objective knowledge is what your opinion of the universe would be if you knew everything.
Nobody knows everything that exists. What does that say for objective knowledge?
That we will never be able to think objectivley?