I want to start out saying all fraud should be illegal and investigated where perpetrators should be criminally penalized. I think this is something all law abiding citizens can agree upon.
Nonetheless this recent Trump government crack down on FoodStamp fraud has nothing to do with financial fraud and everything to do with initiating a new digital electronic surveillance system nationwide to track people along with punishing the poor.
This is the same political administration that has declared war on homelessness threatening to arrest everyone and throw people into psyche wards or put them into work camps. This latest thing with Foodstamps is just another way of punishing the impoverished, unemployed, and working poor.
This is the same political government that ignores white collar criminal embezzlements of millions and billions of dollars while going after the poor peasants for a mere $400-600.00 monthly of Foodstamps. Itâs clear that this government favors the superwealthy and warmongers over the poorest of citizens.
As usual libertarians and republican conservatives despise the poor calling them parasites or useless eaters with slogans like âAbolish all public welfare!â And, âGet a second or third job you lazy bums!â
Then there is my personal favorite, âIf you donât work, you donât eat! Starve!â
What does it say of a ruling class who views their own fellow citizens as being useless eaters or parasites? What does it say concerning their lack of morality, ethics, or civic virtue?
Apparently our nation is one where we think we can ignore all social, existential, political, and economic problems sweeping them all under the rug within massive delusional forms of thinking. These political insanities are getting out of hand.
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how come? Fifteen characters
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@pseudoai
Real politik, rally around a so called national crisis with hidden nefarious ulterior motives that are completely unrelated. I have already articulated on this above. Reread what I have already said.
@Peter_Kropotkin
Surely we can find some politically common ground in this, right?
I know we have our many disagreements.
yes, but if didnât have anything to do with financial fraud, itâd sound ludicrous. It would have nothing to do with financial fraud only if there was no fraud there, and there is fraud there. Maybe not a lot, but thereâs fraud
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@pseudoai
Yes, thereâs probably a little bit of fraud going on which is why I started the post that I am against all forms of criminal fraud where I believe it should all be penalized.
Exactly, thatâs why itâs not true that it has nothing to do with financial fraud.
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@pseudoai
What are you getting at exactly?
Depends what the âitâ is referring to. If it is referring to the motivations of the new focus, the it might have nothing to do with fraud. The motivations could be to get the middle class and the working class to aim their hatred downward and think much more of their problems are created by welfare cheats and not coming from above from the elites. It could be being used to create an us them between groups to make it less likely that people focus on shifts in society or decisions by people in power that are hurting everyone.
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@greenfuse
Weâre dealing with people that want to get rid of all public welfare in the United States altogether which is a drop in the bucket in the modern industrial technological western world because we in fact have the lowest quality or exceedingly very little public welfare compared to other modernized nations. We already have very little public welfare here compared to other nations that makes this all the more absurd and humorous. In the western hemisphere the United States is ranked as the lowest provider for public welfare overall.
These people if they had it their way would bring back physical slavery or massive poverty low wage exploitations of workers everywhere. They think so little of the men and women of the working class who everyday are the engine that keeps this society running. For them the working class is completely sacrificial on the altar of profits.
These are the same people who want dominion over the entire planet thinking so little of other peopleâs lives and with the advancement of technology dream about unleashing explosive drone swarms onto any large crowds of peasants that might disagree with them on anything. These are the types of people weâre dealing with.
Iâm getting at what I pointed earlier, that it was not true that it didnât have anything to do with financial fraud, by your very own accord.
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@pseudoai
It sounds like youâre nitpicking at everything trying to sound intellectual. Thatâs what I call a huge waste of time along with being completely disingenuous. Address anything of what I said at least. Make an actual point in your argument that deals with the subject material.
There is an overall defining subject of this thread that deals with economic poverty inside of the United States.
Thereâs too many people that want to criticize how something is written without ever touching the actual substance of a discussion. Itâs annoying having to deal with these so called English and grammar police who donât write anything perfectly themselves.
@pseudoai
There are figures of speech concerning verbal, mental, or written expression.
Does FoodStamp fraud exist? Sure, all kinds of fraud on some level exists all the time across many spectrums of society, but this is a situation where theyâre making it into a national crisis which of course in reality is not for nefarious means of other ulterior political agendas and as a way of punishing the poor nationwide even more. In this way the fraud is not very real because it is overblown for nefarious political ulterior motives.
Notice the government does nothing about massive financial fraud everywhere in the stock market, insider trading, or by the actions of the superwealthy. They only punish or go after the small people for things like FoodStamps.
Yes, it does sound like that to you, but Iâm not. It isnât even something very intellectual, just simple reading comprehension, itâs that easy.
I made the actual point I made about the subject material you wrote, precisely about what you wrote, yes. You can see Iâm not claiming that you seem like anything, just simply addressing what you wrote (a contradiction) - youâre welcome.
If you want to say something else, you can edit that, for sure, in order to correct it so that it means what you wanted it to mean
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@pseudoai
I am not going to entertain the English and grammar police who have nothing of value beyond that to add into the subject material of a thread. You go around like youâre a glorified hall monitor in a school.
Youâre just another Neutral Contrarian like FlannelJesus who goes around criticizing how things are written by others without offering anything else just so you can sound and appear super intellectual.
Do you have any philosophical insights, values, or things you stand for? I doubt it.
If that is the only participation you can offer go bother somebody else. Youâre just being pedantic at this point which is just super annoying.
Do you think it is a grammar problem you had? So, I took what you wrote seriously, and you say that is of no value. Do I have to conclude that for you, what you said is of no value?
Itâs amazing the things you imagine about other people.
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@pseudoai
If the shoe fits you must acquit.
So you think of yourself as some kind of prince in the Cinderella story? Itâs nice that you imagine that, but that has nothing to do with not being true that such and such a thing has ânothing to doâ with financial fraud, as you wrote it down
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Itâs not that they are poor or âuseless eaters,â itâs that they are committing fraud. They are stealing from the taxpayers, and itâs the governmentâs job to protect the citizens from criminals. But since the government is using money it stole and can steal more when it runs out of other peopleâs money to practice charity with, it doesnât really care. I wouldnât be surprised to find out that some politicians were getting kickbacks. Itâs the system that is the problem.
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@PerpetuallyCurious
If libertarian conservatives donât want the poor or unemployed to collect FoodStamps and public social welfare employers need to increase their wages. Pretty simple.
Itâs actually businesses and corporations stealing from taxpayers by using government FoodStamps or public welfare as a way of subsidizing themselves to keep wages artificially low.
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