On Phalanxism

Here we are using an early word for fascism for the purposes of including into it nationalist socialism with as little semantic controversy as possible.

International and national socialism, phalanxism, take the same assumption and provide two different takes on it: that the old order is dead or should die, that the old ideas of hierarchy will or should die with it, and that it will or should be replaced with what we will call a primal government. A primal government is one that explicitly and legalistically takes first priority in human order. Everything starts from, and exists exclusively at the pleasure of, a central government. Central being a country, an association of countries, whathaveyou. The highest level of governmental authority over a given locality.

This is the basic assumption. It is true for democratic socialism, red communism, storm troopers, Phalanxists, Italian fascists, neonazis (with some striking exceptions) and even British big tent style RINO style “conservatives.”

Some of these routes are more circuitous than others. So we will focus on the two main routes: phalanxism and red communism.

Arriving at the demolishing of the old order and the supremacy of the government, then, the disagreement is this: reds want a throw-back “Enlightenment” veneer, and phallanxists want a synchretic “folkloric” veneer. Neither of these two things are actually compatible with socialism. What matters here is the outward form, the “feel” that the supreme government will have.

Even 99% of policy would look the same, and here we include the end-goals of social democracy.

This is why it should surprise no one that relations between the different breeds of socialist are becoming increasingly less antagonistic (back when many or all of them had shots at control over a superpower state, the knives of competition came out). It’s also why it becomes increasingly difficult to describe them apart when some state or another adopts or, rather, gets adopted by it.

Opposed to socialism is real conservatism, traditionalism, and the libertarian, individualist mentality that naturally goes with those. Even royalism is fairly individualistic, because the links that tie a monarch to a realm are mostly personal, a matter of personal debt. There is no supreme “state” government structure that stands as an arbiter, just historical contracts and maybe divine sponsorship.

Free markets are not a political ideology, or even a policy. They are simply what happens when people are largely left to their own devices. “Capitalism” doesn’t exist outside of the socialist mythology. There are just boring things like banking. In this sense, one of the few things I think socialists got right is calling true conservatism “Reactionism.” People go about their lives and business, and here comes this revolution. Conservatism is just a reaction to it.

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When a law suit happens, say one with constitutional issues in the USA handled by the Supreme Court, there are, these days, two opposed and internally coherent mentalities:

According to one, the individualist mentality, the constitution is a historical contract, under God, with a clear set of conditions based on concrete human relations. It’s historicist, places the burden of legitimacy on agreements between men and the means invoked by them to enforce them. The individual, or, at most, God, is here supreme, and the government is subservient. Those adhering to this mentality will be seen taking great pains to understand and correctly interpret the text of the law, its intentions, and its explicit dictates.

According to the other, the socialist mentality, the constitution, or any other law, is at best an expedient for the government to make its will known. At any moment that the government’s will seems to come into conflict with the law, the correct approach is to reinterpret, ignore, or annul the law so as to bring it into compliance with what it, after all, is only an expedient for.

When a socialist argues, openly, that a judge’s work consists in forwarding a political agenda via whatever manipulation of the law and its text is necessary, he is not being corrupt, facetious, or dishonest. This is, coherently, what he believes the law is. It is a means by which a government pursues policy. Any individuals, contracts, or history involved is next to meaningless in comparison with the true source of legitimacy, the highest possible authority and, indeed, ultimate arbiter of all human affairs: the government.

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Another corollary is that all gradients of the socialist range require, as part of the political agenda, that individuals, humans, become increasingly less dependent, physically, intellectually, emotionally, and in any other way, on themselves or individual, specific, historical structures, and increasingly more on a central government.

Their biological functioning, their psychological comfort, safety and stability, their methods of relating to themselves, others, and abstract structures, all must include the government as a primal factor. The conceptual primacy of government must become metaphysical, a feature of reality itself, in the eyes of all its intended subjects.

This is why socialism continues to be the appropriate term. The replacing of individuals with a societal mass, the nervous system of which is central government.

All activity; personal, business, mystical, or of any sort, must happen with government tightly incorporated, not as an add-on or imposed function, but as essential to its functioning.

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@Mary-Poppins

There’s no individual in community, there is a collective. Community is a collective effort.

Without the general public welfare of the community or societal collective conservatism fails, it doesn’t conserve anything.

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Well, considering the world worked for thousands of years without anything like a communal government, that’s a characteristically preposterous socialist idiocy.

If your sexually deviant self wants to say “government doesn’t work” or “the state doesn’t work” or “society doesn’t work,” that at least would be less idiotic.

But saying conservatism can’t work without socialism, it’s exactly as idiotic as saying that night time can’t work without sunshine.

It’s every kind of idiocy. But.

Importantly.

Socialists don’t care about any of that. What conservatisn actually is does not concern you. It’s a vibe, a style. A veneer.

You have no respect for it as a concept because it is meaningless in your world. Only one thing has meaning in your world: primal government. Anything else, could be this, could be that, entirely unimportant.

The difference between fascism and red communism is the difference between chocolate ice cream and chocolate ice cream.