On Social Justice: An Ode To Thrasymachus

[Mictlantecuhtli]

This thread is a tribute to Thrasymachus speaking on social justice towards Socrates in Plato’s Republic.

Thrasymachus: …you think that the shepherds and the neatherds [cow herders] are considering the good of the sheep and the cattle and fatten and tend them with anything else in view than the good of their masters and themselves. And by the same token you seem to suppose that the rulers in our cities, I mean the real rulers, differ at all in their thoughts of the governed from a man’s attitude toward his sheep…

Plato’s Republic

Thrasymachus: … a man’s attitude toward his sheep or that they think of anything else night and day than the sources of their own profit. And you are so far out concerning the just and justice [i.e. so far from knowing “what justice is”] and the unjust and injustice that you don’t know that justice and the just are literally the other fellow’s good – the advantage of the stronger and the ruler, but a detriment that is all his own of the subject who obeys and serves – while injustice is the contrary and rules those who are simple in every sense of the word and just, and they being thus ruled do what is for his advantage who is the stronger and makes him happy by serving him, but themselves by no manner of means…

Plato’s Republic

Thrasymachus:And you must look at the matter, my simple-minded Socrates, in this way, that the just man always comes out at a disadvantage in his relation with the unjust. [For instance] in their relations with the state, if there are direct taxes or contributions to be paid, the just man contributes more from an equal estate and the other [i.e. the unjust man] less, and when there is a distribution the one [the unjust man] gains much and the other [the just man] [gains] nothing.
344a - Consider this type of man, then, if you wish to judge how much more profitable it is to him personally to be unjust than to be just. And the easiest way of all to understand this matter will be to turn to the most consummate form of injustice which makes the man who has done the wrong most happy and those who are wronged and who would not themselves willing do wrong most miserable. And this is tyranny, which both by stealth and by force takes away what belongs to others, both sacred and profane, both private and public, not little by little but at one swoop.

Plato’s Republic

Thrasymachus: For it is not fear of doing but of suffering wrong that calls forth the reproaches of those who revile injustice. Thus, Socrates, injustice on a sufficiently large scale is a stronger, freer, and more masterful thing than justice, and, as I said in the beginning, it is the advantage of the stronger that is the just, while the unjust is what profits a man’s self and is for his advantage.

Plato’s Republic

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

I’ve heard this one before, in different words.
We can call it tax farming, now, as capital replaced raw goods such as food and drink.

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@Dan~

I’ve heard this one before, in different words.
We can call it tax farming, now, as capital replaced raw goods such as food and drink.

Is that all you got from this thread?

[The_Golden_Turd]

Its all I got too. Was there a bigger point to be made?

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@Turd Ferguson

Its all I got too. Was there a bigger point to be made?

Please re-read and then you tell me.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

The trained Justice Roos are too hot.
What an awesome display of biodiversity.

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@Dan~

The trained Justice Roos are too hot.
What an awesome display of biodiversity.

You’re either slow, dense, or just plain mentally deficient.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@HaHaHa

@Dan~

The trained Justice Roos are too hot.
What an awesome display of biodiversity.

You’re either slow, dense, or just plain mentally deficient.

I was joking.
I like kangaroos, besides skunks.
People can make up excuses if they want to kill them,
but i would not shoot a roo or a skunk.

Also you seem to be easily offended.
Maybe not, but, you’re dishing out a possible insult.
The ILP ideal was that everyone would talk with dignity
and wisdom. That is why they cranked out the no ad homs rule.
It was all idealism.

I’d want you to act ideal, too.
You don’t have to.

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@Dan~

@HaHaHa

@Dan~

The trained Justice Roos are too hot.
What an awesome display of biodiversity.

You’re either slow, dense, or just plain mentally deficient.

I was joking.
I like kangaroos, besides skunks.
People can make up excuses if they want to kill them,
but i would not shoot a roo or a skunk.

Also you seem to be easily offended.
Maybe not, but, you’re dishing out a possible insult.
The ILP ideal was that everyone would talk with dignity
and wisdom. That is why they cranked out the no ad homs rule.
It was all idealism.

I’d want you to act ideal, too.
You don’t have to.

You’re going off tangent of the subject in the original post. Stay on point. The various images posted are clues for the observing mentally handicapped.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@HaHaHa

You’re going off tangent of the subject in the original post. Stay on point. The various images posted are clues for the mentally handicapped.

I suggest you stop talking to the mentally handicapped.
Nothing can be gained from such a thing.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

This thread wouldn’t be complete without a marble bust of Thrasymachus.

[The_Golden_Turd]

So you want to make a courtroom, staffed by kangaroos in human suits, and base it in Australia, and have the Gavel made out of acoustically dull US dollars?

And people have to beg blind women for money. You go on their left side, ask for money, and she then gives it to you on the right? Maia is blind, maybe you want us to ask her for money. I don’t really get the kangaroos though. Or the Gavel.

[The_Golden_Turd]

Oh… ohh… you want the next supreme court justice to be a blind woman. I get it.

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@Turd Ferguson

So you want to make a courtroom, staffed by kangaroos in human suits, and base it in Australia, and have the Gavel made out of acoustically dull US dollars?

And people have to beg blind women for money. You go on their left side, ask for money, and she then gives it to you on the right? Maia is blind, maybe you want us to ask her for money. I don’t really get the kangaroos though. Or the Gavel.

While I admire your trolling and sarcasm perfected, no, that has nothing to do with the thread subject.

Did anybody even bother reading the quotes?

[Mr_Reasonable]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

[Mr_Reasonable]

Lady Justice there appears to possibly be a tranny that only whacks off with her right hand. Look at the difference in the muscles between the 2 arms.

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@mr reasonable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

Getting warmer Mr. Reasonable.

You’re the closest one to breaching the subject.

[Dan1 (Dan~)]

@HaHaHa

@Turd Ferguson

So you want to make a courtroom, staffed by kangaroos in human suits, and base it in Australia, and have the Gavel made out of acoustically dull US dollars?

And people have to beg blind women for money. You go on their left side, ask for money, and she then gives it to you on the right? Maia is blind, maybe you want us to ask her for money. I don’t really get the kangaroos though. Or the Gavel.

While I admire your trolling and sarcasm perfected, no, that has nothing to do with the thread subject.

Did anybody even bother reading the quotes?

I read the qoutes.
You also added new stuff to the OP over a short period of time.

[Mr_Reasonable]

I already know everything you’re ever going to say. I wont give it away let’s let the other kids have a shot at figuring it out.

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@mr reasonable

Lady Justice there appears to possibly be a tranny that only whacks off with her right hand. Look at the difference in the muscles between the 2 arms.

And you’re cold again…sighs