I’ve been reading about OBE lately. While reading I came across a description of an experience I’ve been having since I was young. It is the feeling that I wake up in my bed where I fell asleep, but I am not awake. I am in a vibrative state and have a hard time focusing or moving at all. I try to speak and often I am not able to.
As I have grown older, I have gained significatly more control over this state, and after reading some about OBE, I began trying to “seperate.” I think of myself as a light person and I float up. I hardly ever walk. Then I start to move around my room, and out. Sometimes I go outside and walk through walls to get there, other times the walls seem hard. Sometimes I feel confused, but usually if I say “focus,” I can snap things into clarity. Sometimes I go straight to a new scene, one that seems very familiar in the lucid state, but in my physical reality I have never been there.
My question is how can one tell the difference between a lucid dream, and an out of body experience, if there is such a thing.
I also have been reading about Xenoglossy and reincarnation. Does anyone have any thoughts about how these 2 things may relate to the OBE phenomenon?
Well, being that I’m an atheist, I’m extremely biased towards this, but you did ask for my opinion so…
I’ve had lucid dreams. They’re very freaky and always incorporate a sense of awareness and consciousness in an otherwise oblivious setting. You ought to ask yourself: were you deliberate and lucid in your thought processes during the ‘experience’? If not, it could’ve been an extremely vivid dream, or–on the unlikeliest of likelihoods–it could very well have been an OBE/alien abduction/etc.
My friend and I made a device that can induce lucid dreams. We had two LED lights (white seems to be the most effective) attached to a timer at which point the LEDs–being suspended above each eyelid–will flash pulses of light into your unconscious eyes. This sort of wakes you up within your dream, inducing a lucid experience.
It can be hard to tell them apart, because it all depends on how much focus you have. You can have an OOBE and come out of it thinking it was a dream because your focus was lost.
You can be an atheist and believe in OBE as a mental state/hallucination. People can probably achieve it by meditating/somehow envoking a biochemical result, we see similiar things happen with trauma victims as their brain tends t o go a bit haywire under certain circumstances.
No one literally has to believe that anynthing left the body, infact all the stuff thats producing the imagery would be in the brain.
How is that an OBE? Maybe it’s because my aunt is Wiccan (so I hear all that mumbo jumbo spiritual stuff from her), but my take on an OBE has always been an instant or instances where you are actually outside of your own body.
To me, what you explained are just hallucinations.
Then again, it is a so-called “experience”, implying subjectivity.
Out of body is induced first when one is in a state of hyper mental need or desire. you can once knowing this state and learning it do so upon learning how. It can only be done if you have the proper connections flowing through your mind.
Ok now that that line of B.S. is done. Shit fire folks we are an experiment of nature we don’t know what we are capable of. If you can do it then by all the Gods do it and don’t let anyone tell you its a hallucenation. No one but you is the expert of what goes on inside you.
You do what feels right for you.///////// Unless of course it means harming another( this commercial is brought to you by the realistic side of life. )
Once when I was young I found myself hovering toward the cieling looking down at myself sleeping in bed. After that, I did a little research and heard some stuff about dying if you didn’t get back in your body before it woke up. I dropped it.
Then, about three years ago, I got so disenchanted with this fucked up world that I bought a bunch of books and started reading about it. They said the thing about waking up with getting back in was bullshit and not to worry about it. I thought, cool, so I kept reading on how to do it. Turns out you have to have more mental discipline than I’ve got, and you need more silence, almost sensory depravation.
I’ve don’t have what it takes to pursue it. Maybe when I’m older, have more time and etc. Who cares if it’s real or not. If it seems real, it would be like a virtual trip, only better. Next stop, the girls locker room.