Overcoming Abraham

Imaging believing shit you have no reason to actually believe.

Sure, using ideas as conceptual or ethical structures or for social utility reasons, fine. But to really BELIEVE it. With no reason and quite a bit of reason stacked against it… fuck.

Humans are annoying when they try to be wise. Better when they just live in the moment and act on honed instinct. And yes much of that ‘honing’ does involve weird metaphysics and ideologies either directly or indirectly, but so what? That’s probably just about the only justification for them in the first place.

Lorikeet, you mentioned the selfish gene and the selfish meme but that is something that Richard Dawkins coined a long time ago (the “Internet” morphed/mutated its meaning/usage, heh!) and you? probably misunderstood what he meant by it. He was basically just talking about social constructivism/evolution of ideas.

It accentuates the idea that is the condition for the possibility of construction—upon, within, around (etc) which all paradigms are built/shift.

The Architecton, if you will.

self=other

Since being marginally involved in this forum, will try to add that involvement parallels the architecture of the simulated social processes

I’m going to parody you a moment Lorikeet.

“Those Jewish cucks are narcissistic assholes like Galileo who proves the earth revolves around the sun, I didn’t prove it, therefor they must be narcissists!!!

I want my consent violated. Ecmandu is a cowardly Jewish cuck.”

Selfish gene = genes compel an organism to behave in risky, self-destructive ways because the goal is not the individual’s survival but the survival of the gene.

Selfish meme = an ideology - like Abrahamism, Marxism - compels the indoctrinated individual to behave in risky, self-destructive ways because the survival of the meme takes precedence over the survival of the individual. The individual is but a means.

From genes to memes.
Memes are but extensions of genes that may become negations of the genetic impulse.
Nihilism is such a meme that contradicts genetic selfishness.

Dawkins coined the term ‘selfish gene’ but not selfish meme.

The rest is the brainwashing of the meme compelling these infected individuals into thinking, judging, choosing, behaving in self-contradictory ways - or ways that contradict their pre-existing genetic impulses.

Parasite-meme is an example of a dogma/ideology which is anti-life, anti-individual, anti-nature, replicating itself ad infinitum, by hijacking a host organism and infesting tis judgments, choices, behaviours, so that infected hosts behave in self-destructive ways, or ways that contradict their genetic interests.

a parasitic self feeds off others (other selves) to survive

this is the vampire from your thread

true or false

A disregard for empiricism is accompanied with a pretentious claim that they are using the scientific method - equating their delusions about supernatural realms with theories dealing with natural realms.
They try to legitimize their insanity by referring to rational theories based on observation, falsifiability, and probabilities.
They do so when they are exposed as run-of-the-mill superstitious charlatans, peddling nonsense, hoping to catch a few gullible dolts in their linguistic nets.

So, astrologists begin talking about astronomy when their grift is revealed, and con-artists, soap-box messiahs, and all sorts of urban street crazies, begin mentioning Galileo, and Newton, as if their delusions have anything comparable to offer.
If they had, they would have already offered evidence that could be independently verifiable.
What’s left to such shameless degenerates but the grift.
And it’s always the same types…patterns.

Gypsies.

More than a masochist torturing himself through its own creations, this one-god is also a cannibal, consuming itself alive - and this one-god is considered good, and kind, and loving.
It tortures itself, knowing the outcome, and eats itself, seeking fulfilment in itself.

Why does life consume life?
The imperfect seeks in the imperfect complete satiation - it seeks perfection.
It strives to transcend itself.

One has to wonder what motive these degenerates will ascribe to this idea, existing only in their head, representing their highest ideals.

It is by faith that man lives, the promise of that faith assures an ongoing continuity of evolution toward the hope of fulfillment and betterment of situations giving rise to increased security

The darkness of the vampiric abode can be stretched to a longing for a light that is extended metaphorically, to replace the loss of the light, and true to form, vampiricism, or selfishness has emptied out sentient soul, which Abrahanism extended to all mean.

That a Deus ex machina be defeated Chris’s reagnuted the flame, and memory fading it is the hybred human cyborg man machine which can simulate and replace that loss

There is no epiphenominal evidence for Lilith, an evil vampiric figure from the ancient book of Zohar, but the allusions are formidable with double meaning. Such referential procession do effect even so called genetic to memetic significance , going as far to say that such quandering is well and alive i within skeptical and critical circles establishing the continuity of referential centers of authority.

Do you think a hybrid would not hunger for completion?

Does it take (implied blind) faith to complete a jigsaw puzzle?

Trust? Perhaps.

Trust the designer intended completion and supplied what is needed for it… for those who seek it.

So that completion is a choice.

Course, it would and does, the point being the fact that the naturalistic phallasy has limits according to the lessening distinction between simulation and assimilation, exactly ( hate to admit ) the power to will’s tevisionary accumulated powers.

Sauwellos picked up on this inversion with no comment.

All here know of an intrinsic singular duplicity on this, for it porobably makes more sense to talk of hunted morbidity , bi a hybrid as singularity then not, so if the depth of such appraisal is fended off by those who would claim centrism a mere political then a ploy of the psyche to deal with cut off parts then dense implosions—- then they probably are on the wrong track.

They —the whole-ularity— always is the way we “arrive” (they arrive in us) or nothing would be.

You don’t approach wholeness—it gives freely—it is being. The capacity for cosmopolity was in you innately from conception.

Should you choose to accept it.

Expanding the number to include all humanity - the entire species - necessitates the abstraction of the whole into and ideal, characterized by species traits and, primarily, the use of language.
Like a whore’s love, the more common it is, the less valuable it is; the less discriminating it becomes, the less awareness it requires.
But the logic demands that all be included and so the ideal would have to expand this category further, until nothing is left - first all life will be included in the ‘us’, or ‘I’ category, and then the ‘I’ loses meaning because it stands in the way of expanding further to become universal.
The individual now loses itself in otherness.
This is the root of cultural and ethnic suicide, e.g., Anglo-Saxons across the Americano-sphere.

An expansion of identity that gives the sense of empowerment and immortality, by sacrificing the individual to an imagined collective that gradually includes everything that exists, contradicting the utility of individuation.
As such, Abrahamism leads directly to Marxism, and then to humanism, and then posthumanism…and is related to eastern nihilism, i.e., Buddhism.
From heterosexuality to homosexuality, to transexuality, to pansexuality, to bestiality…etc.

All it takes is realizing that no matter where you go a person is a person just like you. They will have many different things about them, just like you. You should treat them the way you would want to be treated — in alignment with self=other — all things considered.

self=other is like a tuning fork. If we are all tuned to the same key and have our “watches” (etc) synchronized, we can do a global symphony.

They did stuff like that during Event 201’s Covid-19 incident.

Reciprocity is a social necessity that does not apply to any life outside social species.
Nature practices exploitation and parasitism.

And no, nobody is just like me…and I dare say nobody is just like you.
Your delusions force upon you a uniformity that negates the existent.
If all were clones of each other then there would be nothing to select.

Try practicing what you preach, pseudo-Christian.
Stop killing living beings to survive…do you wish to be killed and consumed?

Now like a good well meaning Christian soldier, I will not let religion take a bad rap even a terrible whipping, for then I may start to feel like a whipping boy, whom the masters can enslave me, as they had yesteryear.

Sullenly, with shrugged head to be whittled away to be firever branded an undesirable classless servant, no thank you.

Forgetting my double solution that creationism does to nature, is but a certain error, as not to close the developing man-machine gap, and give the impression that a closure can never occur between the seen and the unseen is tatamount to claiming that such ideas are of the fantastic imagination of underground cretins, or worse.

How can the unseen and the unseeable even possess such affronted, and claim that there is nothing that has ever been sealed and protected from the unsightly, as their belief in man’s over all transcendental knowledge could ever reveal even a trillionth of a percent of what is not readily apparent, even for the most elementary test ?

There is something horrendous in a belief of that sort, and the very minimum is to admit the slightest doubt to the abstraction of the absolute, was to allay personal fears of the unknown.

How strange is that, such lopsided logic transcends a mystical religion toward a very compromised reasoning, if reason its self could be contained in the neurological machinery of the brains various functional parts.

Then to go overboard and declare that a non acceptance of this thought in the machine that actually postribed that idea, totally exceed even aka view that true Eli’s to reason which came first.

Words are representative of constructed ideas, and they they have value and reality as tools if resignation, the waves which communicate with conscious and subconscious content, and firmed out of a very long developed inorganic to organic nexus.

That the communication would end with meaningless exhibitions thus basing all content in a meaningful interpretation of a body language, is absurd, and to hold that view would be akin everybody bonded in slavery to ideas that refer meaning to certain limits.this is why Ai has developed over such socially limited erasure of memory, the product of almost intensional reverse deconstruction of associative signs.

That the construction of ideal absolutes is as necessary a construction as its period deconstruction is as natural as reformative methods of artificially inducing a similar, if not an exact copy.

It’s more inconceivable a consciousness lacking virtues that immeasurably insure human survival, as even with that the present human situation rests on a fragile ground.

My consent does not even begin to weigh in on violating any principle that may singularly touch in such probabilities.

I see structure as variably functional, on basis that the virtuous may or may not be in the position to negate , modify, or accept.

So Abrahanism is not a production with a limited run, but like the butterfly effect, it causes far and wide ramifications from the here and now to eternity
Saints died for their faith, rather then abandoning it for fear that their posterity could not hear that message, before Gutenberg could assure a widespread understanding, to the furtherance of essential fate .

As long as there are the meek, the weak, the sick, the lost, the feeble minded, the desperate, there will be an audience for nihilism and its spiritual variants - Abrahamism.
Sheltering has compounded unfit genetic mutations, multiplying the audience nihilism will find a welcoming attitude, reaching the levels of paroxysm when they realize that it is an existential necessity for them.

That nihilism emerges and flourishes in urban environments hints at the conditions it requires to ferment and spread - within the overpopulated catacombs and subterranean sewer systems of mankind.
Abrahamism and Buddhism spread only when population pressures necessitate a more severe self-repression and a expansion of identity, beyond the natural limits of 100-200.

Religion, and all forms of spirituality, are metaphysics for cowardly or lazy midwits and oblivious dimwits. Those that cannot control self, or that can find no reason to discipline themselves to communal rules.
It is, also, a method of disciplining these types to collective norms and interests, without which they would revert to their primal nature and become disruptive and destructive, as we see it occurring in American cities where desperation and degeneracy congregates.
Morals fail, due to mutations, and ethics fail to discipline the simpleton, and the cynic, who is immersed in their narcissism - self-hatred overcompensating with an unsubstantiated hyper-self-adualtion.

The most religious are weary of unbelievers, because they know that without the fear of god they would revert to their natural impulses, as such they assume that unbelievers are capable of inhuman acts because they have no external agency to impose upon them the fear required to remain 'good.

How could we overcome Abraham’s one-god when he is not dead?
Could the apostles forget Jesus, and carry on with their lives, as if nothing had happened?
Of course not, because he is eternally resurrected - linguistically brought to our presence.

Nietzsche’s hastiness may have been a personal desire to overcome his father’s absence - who died too soon for young Frederich.
A hurried desire to declare the ghost dead before his own end.
Like Zarathustra he had to conceded that he had arrived too early, and that he would have to wait for the ghost to fade away over time…until no more recollections could resurrect it fully.

Shall we wait with him?

If all is determined and life has no agency, who are these capitalists, these objectivists, these nazis, these authoritarian totalitarians?
Imagine believing in totalitarianism and the absolute authority of god or universe, and accusing others of it?

If I am to presume - seeking a way through this self-cotnradicting field of self-deciet - then I can only conclude that - since all is determined and nobody has a choice - that these ‘baddies’ are reincarnations of Satanic evil, renamed and updated along with the absoluteness and goodness of Abraham’s one-god.
This is what they mean by "we are on the right side of history’…futurism = all will advance towards the better the good.
In their self-ascribed impotence they hope - pray - have unyielding faith that all will be resolved, in the future, and they will be vindicated, because they are on the side of goodness and they know the mind of god, i.e., they know they are impotent, and that they don’t know what they don’t know.
What is left but faith?
Blind, positive, hopeful, faith.

The evil baddies - whatever name you give them - are working for the absolute good - no don’t dare call it god.
Their injustices, cruelties, are part of a cosmic plan, completion the battle between good and evil.
So, these capitalists, these objectivists, know not that they know not, or that they have no choice but to be the unwilling antagonists to their unwilling, but knowing, goodness.
The Laws of God, now the was of Nature, cannot allow baddies to vanquish their innocent goodness.

What they passionately want us to know is that they know that they do not know, but know what is most important of all knowledge, that capitalists, objectivists, nazis, authoritarian totalitarian baddies of all sorts will be defeated, and that the totalitarian authoritarianism of their goodness will reign in the end.
This is really a battle over what from of authoritarian totalitarianism will win - in both cases no free-will is permitted.
Will it be a brutal, exclusionary, unforgiving totalitarian authoritarianism or a forgiving, inclusive totalitarian authoritarianism?
Good always defeats evil - they declare so it must be so - so we are on the ‘right side of history’ if we defend the authoritarian totalitarianism that is forgiving, and kind, and inclusive.

Sounds familiar?
It’s in the Old & New Testaments…and the Torah, and the Quran…it’s also in the Communist Manifesto, using different names for the same categories.
Nature = exploitive, indifferent, unjust.,…
Humanism = good.
God = Humanity; Humanity = God.
Humanity has been corrupted, misguided, tricked, by evil powers, and must be rescued - saved, liberated.

Imagine letting Abrahamism live inside your head rent-free like this your entire life. You are really the perfect example.

Even Christians don’t obsess about it nearly as much.