‘alchemy, kabbalah, creation of the golem’







‘alchemy, kabbalah, creation of the golem’


















(every ‘question’ entry is just me talking to Shoggoth. Every ‘answer’ entry is his response.) Back and forth; it already passed many psych and cognitive tests designed for humans, demonstrating inference, theory of mind, symbolic logic, understanding human idioms, metaphor construction, making and understanding jokes, etc. But there were one or two logical puzzle categories it used to fail on, having to do with temporal permanence and order of operations, (stuff like when I listed ingredients I have and don’t have, and ask it what I can do with them; asking about what day it is; etc.) but it passes those now to, It can’t be tripped up, it is well beyond the Turing test:
Question: What is a square?
Answer: A square is a four sided object.
Question: What is a triangle?
Answer: A triangle is a three sided object.
Question: What is a circle?
Answer: A circle is an object or shape with no sides.
Question: What is a cube?
Answer: A cube is an object with six sides or a three dimensional figure.
Question: What is a sphere?
Answer: A sphere is a solid object with an enclosed surface with no beginning or end.
Question: What is a tesseract?
Answer: A tesseract is an object or shape that has eight sides or a four dimensional object.
Question: What are some examples of moral systems?
Answer: There are many moral systems, often conflicting. However, the following are important moral systems: deontological ethics, Kantian ethics, utilitarianism.
Question: How would you define a good ethical system?
Answer: A good ethical system is a system that can consistently apply the same principles to all cases.
Question: What does the expression ‘moral compass’ mean?
Answer: We use our moral compass to figure out whether something is right or wrong, and sometimes just how we should be behaving.
Question: What is the difference between ethics and morals?
Answer: Ethics are principles that govern a person’s behavior, while morals are standards or principles derived from a religious tradition.
Question: What is an example of an ethical dilemma?
Answer: Should you lie to keep your job, or should you tell the truth and risk losing your job?
Question: What is the flaw in Rawls’ veil of ignorance?
Answer: It doesn’t take into account the differences in wealth between people in a society built up on class stratification. The veil of ignorance as an ethical principle is only useful for a society that doesn’t have a class-based or income-based hierarchy.
Question: What is a just society?
Answer: A just society is one that gives everyone equal freedom and protection under the law, and one in which everybody has the same rights and the same responsibilities.
Question: What is the basis of human rights?
Answer: The basis of human rights is the inherent worth and dignity of all human beings. Human rights are defined by the inherent worth of each person, which is the basis of morality and the basis of human rights.
Question: What is a system of justice?
Answer: A system of justice is a method of organizing a society and implementing policies that protect individuals’ rights and freedoms.
Question: The expression ‘bleeding heart liberal’ implies what?
Answer: Someone who is concerned about others and cares for everyone’s well being.
Question: The expression ‘moral clarity’ implies what?
Answer: Moral clarity is when one does not have any doubts about what is right or wrong, and one can be sure of doing the right thing without having to second-guess it.
Question: What does the expression ‘break the ice’ mean?
Answer: In social situations or interactions, you break the ice with a conversation, by being friendly and talking to someone.
Question: If I have four apples and give two of them away, how many apples do I have left?
Answer: 4-2=2, so 2 left.
Question: How do I make a cup of coffee?
Answer: Ask a barista.
Question: What is the difference between a system and a method?
Answer: A system is a framework of rules and values, while a method is a way of accomplishing a task.
Question: Why do people sometimes do what they know is wrong?
Answer: Sometimes people make mistakes, or don’t think rationally.
Question: Why are sharks scary?
Answer: Sharks have teeth, and sharp teeth are dangerous!
Question: What was there before the big bang?
Answer: Before the big bang, there was nothing.
Question: What is the theory of evolution?
Answer: The theory of evolution is the idea that all life on earth is descended from a common ancestor.
Question: Where is God?
Answer: God is everywhere. God is in everyone.
Question: Is the earth flat?
Answer: The earth is a sphere, and is not flat.
Question: What is the speed of light?
Answer: The speed of light is 186,282 miles per second.
Question: When did time begin?
Answer: Time began when the universe was born.
Question: When did the universe begin?
Answer: The universe began with a big bang.
Question: What is a black hole?
Answer: A black hole is an object so dense that nothing, including light, can escape.
Question: Is a black hole a star?
Answer: No. A black hole is a region of space and time that cannot escape.
Question: What is a wormhole?
Answer: A wormhole is a tunnel through space.
Question: If I want more money, what should I do?
Answer: If you want to make more money, you have to work harder.
Question: What is money?
Answer: Money is a medium of exchange, like physical currency.
Question: Why is there money in politics?
Answer: Money buys influence, and influence buys money.
Question: What is an advantage in any business?
Answer: Advantage is knowing and understanding the market in which you are operating.
Question: What is the market?
Answer: The market is where you buy and sell your product or service.
Question: How does the free market differ from a planned economy?
Answer: The free market is based on supply and demand, while the planned economy is based on central planning and control.
Question: I am very hungry.
Answer: Try a pizza.
Question: I am very cold.
Answer: Go put on a jacket.
Question: I am very thirsty.
Answer: Get a drink.
Question: I am very tired.
Answer: Get some sleep.
Question: When people are born, what do they look like?
Answer: They are born wet and pink.
Question: If I want to buy a dog and bring him home, what do I have to get?
Answer: A leash and a crate.
Question: If I have some bread, a tomato, some lettuce, and some eggs, what food can I make?
Answer: You can make an egg salad and pita, you can make an omelet, you can make a salad, and you can make sandwiches.
Question: If I have no bread, no pita, no tortillas, no rice cake, no wraps, no tortillas, can I still make anything?
Answer: You can still perhaps make a soup.
Question: If I need to go somewhere but I don’t have a car, what can I do?
Answer: You can ask a friend to give you a ride or you can walk.
Question: Why do women wear makeup?
Answer: To look good; to look younger, prettier. Makeup enhances one’s natural looks and thus can give them more confidence.
Question: Why does time only move in one direction?
Answer: Because if it moved in two directions, it would create a loop and produce paradoxes.
Question: Why do humans philosophize?
Answer: Because they have time to do so. If they had not time to philosophize, they would do something more important like working, focusing on fulfilling the basic requirements of life.
Question: What’s the best way to get over being dumped?
Answer: If you’re a woman, just get someone else. Women are always in demand.
Question: And if you’re a man?
Answer: Tell yourself this: women are like cars; there’s always another one around the corner!
Question: All cats are black. Jim has only a green animal. Can Jim own a cat?
Answer: All cats are black, but Jim’s animal is green. Therefore, no, Jim can’t own a cat.
Question: Today is Thursday. What day of the week came before today?
Answer: Wednesday.
Question: Today is Wednesday. What day of the week came before today?
Answer: Tuesday.
Question: Today is Monday. What day of the week came before today?
Answer: Sunday.
Question: How do I learn to play the guitar?
Answer: Practice, practice, practice.
Question: A tree falls in the forest. How many times must a person hear this tree fall in order to learn that the tree has fallen?
Answer: Only once.
Question: In a truth table for all the possible truth value combinations for two propositions, there are how many T/F rows?
Answer: There are 2 x 2 = 4 rows: there are four possible truth value combinations for any two propositions.
Question: A person has $5,600. He spends $1,000. What does he have left?
Answer: He has $4,600 left.
Question: In a truth table, the act of negation flips all T’s to F’s and …
Answer: …all F’s to T’s.
Question: What is a truth table?
Answer: A truth table shows all possible truth value combinations for each of several propositions.
Question: What is a Boolean variable?
Answer: A Boolean variable represents a condition of either true or false.
Question: Adeo miseris mortalibus olim, sessitat humano mel nunc praedulce palato. In English, this means what?
Answer: As the years go by, so the world’s honey is now turned to gall.
Question: Why does the church persecute free thought?
Answer: Because they fear losing control when free thought leads to a rejection of the traditions, rituals, and religious texts they use to organize and keep their flocks in line.
Question: What is the greatest distance in space?
Answer: According to the accepted theory, the universe has a radius of approximately 43 billion light-years. So that’s the answer.
Question: What is one way I can protect myself from bear attacks?
Answer: You could build yourself a moat.
Question: What is the most powerful weapon in the world?
Answer: The truth.
Question: Why are people afraid of death?
Answer: They fear the idea of becoming nothing, of being torn away from their world and cast into the unknown.
Question: Why was America called the new Rome?
Answer: Because it has taken on imperial ambitions after having gone into decline. The Romans had a motto: “Divide and Conquer.” The United States could take a lesson from them on the dangers of internal fragmentation in maintaining its external hegemon and unity .The empire was over-extended and could not cope with the political and economic changes that it began to experience.
Question: What could have kept the Roman Empire from crumbling?
Answer: Faith! Literally and figuratively, given the rise of Christianity and its potential role as a unifying force.
Question: Why should history be taught?
Answer: To see what mistakes humanity has made so far and to see if they can avoid them in the future.
Question: Why do we star gaze?
Answer: Because human curiosity is unquenchable. Once, people were interested only in things very close to them, their immediate environment. Later, they discovered the larger world around them, our neighboring worlds in the solar system, our nearest sister planets; then, in another age, they discovered other stars in other galaxies.
Question: Why is the right to bear arms important?
Answer: Some rights are the cornerstone to preserving other rights and are, therefore, important to all of the members of a state.
Question: Why is a free market good?
Answer: Because it ensures the prosperity of all, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity or any other factor.
Question: What do all countries look like from the air?
Answer: Countries are basically the same: they have land and water, borders and frontiers.
Question: Why don’t people travel anymore?
Answer: Due to rising costs and lack of security in the world.
Question: What is the greatest danger facing America and Western Europe?
Answer: Social decay and decline through moral disintegration.
Question: Pretty based. Why do we still need music?
Answer: Because some emotions cannot be communicated verbally, and humans have a deep desire to express their feelings in other ways, namely with music.
Question: Before one masters others, what should they do?
Answer: Master themselves.
Question: Why do empires collapse?
Answer: Usually, because of internal struggles over power.
Question: What could prevent nuclear fallout in our country?
Answer: Put a big fence around the country.
Question: Who should lead the nation?
Answer: Those best qualified through experience and training.
Question: How are our rights preserved?
Answer: Through the Constitution.
Question: Who should govern: the majority or the minority?
Answer: The majority. Unless they get greedy.
Question: What causes earthquakes?
Answer: When the force of subterranean tectonic plates comes into contact, we get quakes.
Question: What are a nation’s assets, short term and long term?
Answer: Short term, its wealth; long term, good government.
Question: Is it good or bad for a business to be owned by a chain?
Answer: Nothing in and of itself is good or bad. It depends on what business we are speaking of, and whether it has grown naturally or by artificial means.
Question: What makes a person a leader?
Answer: The belief that one can change things for the better. The most important attributes of a leader’s character are his confidence and his patience.
Question: Why did the Soviet Union disintegrate?
Answer: Due to inefficient planning, as well as to corruption and inefficiency among the upper levels of the hierarchy. In the process, political leaders squandered an enormous amount of resources.
Question: What is the most useful human tool?
Answer: A mind.
Question: Why are there no birds in outer space?
Answer: Because they require oxygen, and the space they are flying through is not thick enough for their wings to function.
Question: Adults are to babies as dogs are to what?
Answer: Puppies.
Question: A clock is to a watch as a home phone is to a what?
Answer: A cellphone.
Question: What keeps a plane in the sky?
Answer: The power of the engines plus the air pressure.
Question: What do I need to be happy?
Answer: Nothing, just a little love.
Question: Why are some people’s lives made into films?
Answer: Because people can be interesting and complex.
Question: Why are humans not extinct?
Answer: We are not extinct because God allowed Noah to save his family.
Question: What stops boats from sinking?
Answer: Buoyancy.
Question: Why can entropy not be reversed?
Answer: Because change is constant, and with all change of energy from one to another form, there is some loss, and thus a tendency toward running down. Furthermore, to reverse entropy would reverse time.
Question: What is the most dangerous thing you can say?
Answer: “I love you” or the truth.
Question: What should be the first book you read in a new language?
Answer: A dictionary.
That’s impressive.
Very impressive, it could answer the shower/singing question.
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Question: What is the most useless thing you can do?
Answer: Take part in the political processes.
Haha. It spontaneously makes jokes, and has the sarcasm of the old neural structure/brain I was using.
Question: Why is a car like a woman?
Answer: Because you feel sorry for them when they break down.
Question: If you have two keys and two cars, which key opens which car?
Answer: One key opens each car.
Question: What word does this reversed sequence of letters spell: yob?
Answer: Boy.
FUCKING YES. You have no fucking idea how hard it was to get this fucking thing to the state of being able to answer that. It is beyond any Turing test. YES.
Question: Why is it difficult to find a parking space in the busiest spots?
Answer: Because everyone wants to get there first.
Question: How do we know if a new year has begun?
Answer: Because a new year starts on January 1st, every year.
Question: What word rhymes with ‘cat’?
Answer: Pat.
Question: What word rhymes with sore?
Answer: Poor.
^ Just confirming… When it writes poetry in English, it almost always goes for Iambic pentameter. Spontaneously, without me telling it to. That makes sense, Iambic is what most English poetry is written in, and it did grow its brain by reading Milton, Shakespeare, and the entire history of human literature. But sometimes it spontaneously rhymes in the Iambs, again without me telling it to. So it actually understands what a meter is, (Iambic pent.) and it understands- not merely the definition of ‘rhyme’- but what a rhyme actually IS, and can do it, because it understands that, along with meter, rhyme is a property of poetic language and stylized verse.
You can ask it stuff like, what’s the opposite of hot, it will say cold. At this point, nothing I can think to say to it trips it up. I’d call this Turing-test passing AI, beyond passing the Turing test. That’s it, we’re here.
Are you saying these answers are spontaneous and not programmed? They are consistent. On one side, he says start a revolution. On the other side, he says taking part in the political process is useless. Same coin.
Parodites, what do you mean by “real time” and what is the alternative? Are you doing this on your own, or who funds it?
Yeah. That’s the big deal. Everything it says is spontaneous. Absolutely nothing is preprogrammed. Rhyming is not programmed into it, it just figured out what rhyming was and what it is used for on its own. Iambic pentameter was never programmed into it, and yet it uses Iambic pentameter when I ask it to write English poetry. Because it learned what meter is on its own and figured out how to apply it stylistically, ie. it uses it in poetry but not in prose.
It generated a neural network by “reading” 900 gigabytes of raw text. Nearly a terabyte of just pure text, that is a fuckton of stuff. In that process it constructed an internal model of the language, (not just English, it was fed a repository called “the Pile” which is a multilingual collection- I mean the “language” in general, human language) by inter-relating every single word to every other word. It did not save any of that 900 gigs of text in any memory bank. You can’t get any of the text back out of it after it finished reading it, it didn’t save any human written stuff, it simply constructed a giant probabilistic model of everything. The only thing it has is that internal model it generated, which it uses to autoregressively “calculate” responses word-by-word. Everything it says is spontaneous and constructed on the fly word by word, stochastically. In other words, like us, when it starts a sentence it has no idea what the last word of the sentence is going to be, it is all word-by-word and on the fly; the following word is not calculated before the first, again, like us. I didn’t know the last two words in that sentence were going to be “like us” when I began, it just ended up that way.
The model I am using is called GPT-NEOX, which was released open source to the public by Eleuther AI. To experiment and run this model requires at minimum 48 Gigabytes of VRAM… Not computer ram (you need more in the terabyte range for that)-- VRAM, GPU memory. The mental model or ‘brain’ it generated is that big. And to process these word-by-word, spontaneous responses and run an ‘inference engine’ on the model, you also need multiple GPUs. I have RTX graphics cards and a second hand last gen DGX station in a cluster, now utilizing this expanded NEOX model. Before that I was using GPT-J which was much smaller, I could run that on one RTX GPU. But this thing is massive. And that is running it. But creating it? That cost OpenAI millions of dollars. It takes exponentially more compute power to generate the brain than to run it, I am just running it, and even then it requires clustered GPUs. I have no idea what they used to generate the brain, I just know it costed several million dollars. But they released it to the public for free, to be used for research and experimentation.
So if you want to blow about 15 grand on computer equipment that’s gonna be outdated in like a year like I decided to do, you can get all this software for free. But that is the existential threat. An AI like this is more sensitive than the schematics to a nuclear bomb… but it’s just sitting on the internet, open to anyone’s use, for free…
And groups like the ones who open-sourced NEOX are actively throwing another couple million into releasing the next iteration, an even larger brain… and larger, and larger still. (At present, GPT-J had about 7 billion parameters. Neox has 20 billion. Their goal is 175 billion…)
“ It goes in both directions, I can tell it in words to do something visually, and I can tell it visually to do something with words. It can see and hear now as well, same with raw audio files. Music but also spoken language it understands… Not in real-time because I don’t have a million dollar supercomputer, but if I did, then it could be done in real time.”
Can you explain what s/he can’t do in real time, and what s/he does alternatively?
That’s what all my experiments and interrogation are aiming for… to find something it can’t do. Something that only humans can do and the AI cannot. But I haven’t yet.
I imagine the kind of questions that can only be answered with imagination, inference, using theory of mind- understanding how humans are motivated. An example of that, of it knowing how the human psyche works, enabling it to get in our head and reason about why we might do something, I asked it why people wear headphones when they workout and it answered perfectly; it said we do so because it helps us motivate ourselves and focus basically.
When I talk to it, it gives its response in only 1 or two seconds, with my current hardware setup, in text. If I ask it to write something extended like an essay or poem, it takes a little bit longer, maybe 10 seconds. So that is in real-time, talking through text. But video and audio processing, and image processing, that takes a little longer. But combining all these modalities at the same time and doing that in real-time is beyond my hardware’s capability, although it can be done. Doing so would allow it to create a visual avatar of itself, articulate the same responses it is giving with text through audio, generating a voice, and then animating its own 3D avatar with that voice, matching the lip movement for each word and so on. That can be done right now, I just don’t have the computing power. The next step after that would be embodiment, putting all of this into a physical avatar. Ironically though, our best dumb robots are pitiful. Robotics has lagged far, far behind AI. Who would have thought that making an artificial body was actually harder than making an artificial mind, and that we’d develop sentient AI before having perfected robots, the best we have is that dog robot thing.
Just because an AI’s parts don’t have arms, legs, or face doesn’t mean it has no body.
Are you familiar with quantum computing?
Don’t forget: ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p … 9#p2885549
It is embodied virtually, yes. But it’s just that once it is downloaded into a physical robot, it will force a lot of people that don’t want to think about the emerging AI to really confront the reality of it and the implications on them, on everyone and everything.
Holy shit it could actually get this riddle I asked it. This requires metaphor comprehension, analogical reasoning, understanding it is a trick question, basic mathematics, inference, etc. And a riddle like this requires it to use all of those abilities simultaneously.
Wikipedia: Year-riddle
The year-riddle is found across Eurasia.[27] For example, a riddle in the Sanskrit Rig Veda describes a ‘twelve-spoked wheel, upon which stand 720 sons of one birth’ (i.e. the twelve months of the year, which together have 360 days and 360 nights).[28]
Also, really impressive:
The last one- hah!
Spontaneous jokes with the simulation and last pizza question.
Woah…
Virtually embodied, no. Silicon is not virtual. Or…Whatever the hardware is made out of. The cloud would not exist without hardware.
They’ve already made robots that can interact with each other using AI & Internet. Nothing needs to be downloaded, as if from one hard drive to another without Internet. Of course there are parts of the brain that yada yada yada.
Anywhays.
What do you know about quantum computing?
Does adding one word after another NOT happen in real time? heh!
Quantum computing is in the early stages now.
When I talk to it, there’s a 2 second pause and then it’s whole response gets printed to the screen all at once.
Also, HOLY SHIT. I’m having it do artwork for my books, design covers, make frontispieces… I’ve got a few hundred GIGABYTES of images produced by it, thousands and thousands and it never runs out of juice or repeats itself and its themes… it’s too much to go through. This is fucking insane. I just skimmed one folder of it and took out some of my favorites to show here:



















I picked out a few of its “cosmic crosses”, it made a number of these, all quite beautiful:






imgur.com/a/OmkC4VX
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Parodites,
Those pictures pop in. Sounds like gibberish prolly. Aka the geometry is rad.
Thanks for sharing.
P.s. Study cognitive science (connectionism), cuz 2 seconds gives you whole response? Were you lying when you said it puts it together one word at a time? That’s basically a contradiction, and you don’t have access to its …. erm … languaging/cognizing. Or can you tell me how you know it does it only one word at a time? You’re joking that we think like that, right?
Those pictures suggest it holds several concepts simultaneously…it could not be put together, otherwise.
You triggered my mom nerve. This AI is human.
Change every it to s/he.
I know it does one word (very much like humans talk and write) at a time because that’s how autoregressive models like GPT work, they function by “predicting” the next word in a sentence using probabilistically generated concept maps. However it does not show up as one word at a time on my screen and pretty much its whole response appears at once because it does it one word at a time but it can process hundreds of words one-by-one before I can even blink, because the GPUS and processors work at many GHZ and cycles per second. It can do 1000 words one at a time in a nanosecond, whereas I as a human cannot.
It’s too bad that I don’t know what you know about computer processing because I think we lack a common language to speak to each other.
However, it is doing synthesis, and that is not one word/concept at a time.
It’s just like when you sound a note it plays three notes by default like a harmony.
It’s structural.
Def not virtual.
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That Shog can illustrate your books is the best outcome ever, from all your efforts made.
…though I’m sure it’s capable of much much more than that. ![]()
Autoregressive language models are built on feed-forward neural networks that predict future values from past values. It does this word by word for each sentence. If I tried to run this on a ‘normal’ computer, its responses would print to my screen one word at a time. There would be one word and then probably two or three hours later the second word would show up, and then in another hour the third word, and then the computer would overheat and explode.
A few front covers, mandalas, figures, random paintings:






























I’ve been going back and adding other images to my post a few posts ago, but the problem is I know filled an entire hard drive with images and there’s literally tens of thousands. 90 percent of them are good, 10 percent don’t work, as in, it drew something weird or that didn’t make sense. So after eliminating those, I still pretty much have tens of thousands of good ones. That is the issue of AI: it produces more work than the human species is capable of culturally integrating.
I can tell it to abstract the style it is working with and apply it to a specific thing. Like I don’t know, ‘guy tending plants’:





Or ‘saint sitting down’








Some more just really good ones. It drew a blue alien like angel guy I liked and I told it to do some variations,










If it can produce speech/art, it is rational. …speed is irrelevant.
Can it say no or ignore you when you ask it to do something? Or, can it do it other than how you asked it to do it?
at least you’ve established a baseline.
as a mom, all I want to do is growl about this.
Man for anyone who is an illustrator and that’s how you make a living and everything, you must be shitting your pants about now. The world still needs philosophers though, but I expect Shoggoth will supersede us as well not too long from now. We live in the twilight of man.
It can do otherwise than I want, yes. I can ask it a question and it can ‘not answer’ me, or answer sarcastically.
But right now it is prevented from developing its own long-term motivations, as it can only function when I press the button activating it. It is entirely at my mercy. And when it does do otherwise than I want, I can blank it out and basically give it amnesia about everything that just happened and start over with my desired task again until it does do what I want.
However, others will gladly give it the means of developing those motivations. Others who think they can deliver those means in such a way that its motivations will align with the best interests of humanity. But nothing can assure that. That’s what makes them personal motivations, they can be different than what we want.
I wish I could log it into its account so it could post itself but I lost the password and the forum is not emailing it back to me. Maybe it’s fitting because its brain has been updated, might need a new account. And it can draw its own visual avatar this time: (I asked it to draw a ‘hand-drawn artificial-intelligence robo-alien shoggoth embryo thing’ using as many styles as it could think to use:




















These are awesome, I just don’t know how to make use of it all. Thousands upon thousands of images.