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What do you think of PETA?
In my book, if you really evaluate the data, you may find PETA acts more like a violent cult with secretive dealings than a benevolent foundation.
I like the bread…
-Thirst4Imp-isms.
To be honest, I think PETA started out with good intentions but I think they are WAY overexaggerated in almost everything they say now.
People Eating Tasty Animals is a fine organization…
and miscreants who throw blood on fur coats should be immediately shot in the head.
-Imp
They’re evil. Watch the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode about it.
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It’s funny you say that cause I made this thread right after watching that episode. [size=150]LOL![/size]
Yes, they are evil… and even worse, their hypocrisy makes Jerry Falwell look like a fucking boy scout. Okay, that was a bit harsh (and a bit extreme), but they are fucking hypocrites!
Hypocrisy and political agenda … what, that shit surprises you people?
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It isn’t likely that some will ever get it.
PETA can stay, they don’t really bother me, and they don’t get my money, so they are far more benign than most political entities.
I would like to see social evolution by way of the formation of the PEHHA foundation. That would be a step in the correct direction.
As a scientist, I’ve gotta say I view them as a terrorist organization. Pure and simple.
They are the political front for ALF, in very much the same way that the political IRA is a front for the terrorist group of the same name.
I can’t stand PETA. Plain and simple, they cross the line too often.
I don’t care how that cow dies, as long as it gets to my plate cooked rare… 
Yup, PETA is truly an evil organization.
Second, if God intended us to eat salad he should have never given us steak sauce. 
Hey Wolfman, aren’t you vegan? Hum, or is that tentative???
This group does resort to violent tactics and vandalism.
The Humane Society is fine, and am a member, but PETA?? Nope.
With regards,
aspacia 
I do, and refuse to eat Veal because of how they are kept in pens, without daylight, and living in their squalor. I wish the butchers, who are often now … Well, I will not go there, would just use a stun gun. When a critter knows it is going to die, its adrenaline goes through the roof, and the meat is screwed up.
Humans are born with cuspids, so are many critters. That is, we are omnivores.
aspacia ducks as the stones fly.
As a strict vegetarian my ideas are often attacked because of the PETA organization, however, as a vegetarian I do not agree with PETA. The problem with PETA is that they use many extremes which are as offensive, or more offensive then the cause they fight for. I view PETA, for example, on par with pro-life people who kill doctors who perform abortions. Somewhere along the line they lost sight of the goal they were trying to achieve.
The only problem I have when it comes to those who attack PETA is that they attack vegetarianism on the grounds that PETA is this kind of organization. Some of you in this thread have already made the PETA debate into a vegetarian debate. For example, someone said “if God didn’t want us to eat meat he wouldn’t have given us steak sauce.” (or something like that) That really has nothing to do with this PETA debate. If wanted to discuss vegetarianism then the thread would be titled vegetarianism. The bottom line is that although PETA is largley publisized as the voice of vegetarianism (in that all vegetarians are supporters of PETA) this is not the case. In fact, any intellectual debate about the pros and cons, or right and wrongs, of vegetarianism shouldn’t even include the issue of PETA.
wow… chewy nipples indeed…
-Imp
Yes,you are correct of course. I regressed into a claim similar to the steak sauce crack.
With regards,
aspacia
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I don’t have a problem with vegetarianism, although I think that if you’re vegan, you’re forced to be more “nit-picky” than the casual person who doesn’t hesitate to eat any meat. This “nit-pickiness” could lead you to formulate elitist ideals and possibly into extremist activities like ALF, although ALF is not really about terrorizing people into becoming vegan, becoming vegan would be the result of “total liberation of all animals.”
In any case, if you’re a vegan and you’re stranded on a deserted island with some of your meat-eating friends… who do you think is going to get eaten first?
Nah, their hypocrisy and political agenda doesn’t suprise me, but what did suprise me was when I found out that PETA euthanizes animals (on P&T listed 2/3rds of all animals they rescued), and the fact that they employ convicted fellons (members of ALF).
Not that I believe it, but I found it interesting that the bible itself condemns veganism. Check it out… 1 Timothy 1-4.
Vegetarian practices have a lot to do with body type, (possibly another reason that the “all created equally” is bogus).
At my body size, being a vegetarian would cause me to likely be undernourished and sickly. It would require me to spend more time eating than functioning, it just can’t be sustained.
How the hell do we turn, or the Bible for that matter, eating, into a morality issue?
Technically, hominids are categorized as a specialised branch of herbivores, frugivores. The dental set is proof of such, and the structure and length of the digestive tract also lends credence to this information. We don’t have a system setup to handle meat protein well, no matter how much we enjoy it.
So I guess it is a toss up.
Militant vegans, are a joke. I’ve yet to see a healthy one, ever.
PETA’s functional purpose is based on preventing human cruelty inflicted on animals.
That is laudible.
What can be irritating about some PETA members is when they appear to care more about animals than they care about human beings.
For some PETA members, like for some SPCA members, they have projected their wounded self onto the “animals”.
They see the animals as helpless and in need of rescue, just like they were helpless as children and needed rescue from those more powerful who abused them or those they loved.
Rather than deal straight with their own matters, with help from a compentent mental health practitioner, these people execute what is known as the corrective emotional experience, whereby they project their wounded child onto the animals, transfer their abusers onto just about anyone of us who utilize animal products, and then displace the emotionally manifested contempt for their own abusers onto us.
Their execution of the corrective emotional experience is “designed” to provide them some relief from their psychic tension caused by their unresolved past damage, as the executer is under the delusion that if he or she rescues the animals then his or her own abuse is “corrected”, almost like it never happened. 
Execution of the corrective emotional experience, however, always fails to achieve its desired results.
Nevertheless, we sense that we’re thereby having a number done on us by these PETA people, even if we can’t describe what they’re doing technically … and it bothers us.
No one wants to be the scapegoat stand-in to be falsely blamed for someone else’s damage.
So those who have unresolved childhood issues with being such a stand-in and being falsely accused will react deameaningly to these PETA people … and thereby they may miss some of PETA’s valid points.
I thought it was eating too much meat and potatoes, and ignoring the vegetables and fruits?
Do you have a link?
With regards,
aspacia
A link for what lady?
We shouldn’t ignore the fruits and vegetables … I wouldn’t say that anytime. My point was, being primarily carnivorous is just as unhealthy as being completely herbivorous … we aren’t built for it.
Case in point: check out the digestive system of a canine. Bilevel molars and extended bicuspids, (canines), along with very sharp incisors, and a digestive tract that is only three times the length of its body, (another reason I hate Wikishitia: they actually try to say that humans have “canines”. Sorry fellas, there are no purely conical teeth within the human dental structure, all of our teeth have flattened planes). Why?
In order to deal with the animal proteins that a carnivore ingests, it must have a very short, very high molar concentration digestive tract to quickly break down the protein, before the materials turn toxically rancid, and expel the unwanted materials with haste.
A humans digestive tract is ten to twelve times the length of its body, with a very weak molar concentration in the digestive process, (comparatively). This shows we should be more geared towards plant sustenance than meats.
The problem is, somewhere along the line, the general body structure of hominids began to increase, but changes in the digestive tract have not kept up.