Philosophy is not for the faint of heart

You don’t know anything about people’s psyche at all. For the sake of the experiment, the famous violinist, for whose performance it is difficult to buy tickets, was asked to play on the street. The poor guy could not attract a couple of onlookers with his game. If the religious idiots miraculously understood what kind of shit they worship, religions would disappear. If by another miracle people understood what autorolites they believe in, then all the books would go into the fire, and the teachers would be hanged.

After a joint libation in the company of imposing young ladies, I amuse myself with a question. Why do husbands go to prostitutes? No one will be able to answer. Women will mumble that wives do not tolerate perversion. But this is a lie. You can do the same experiment. The answer is simple. Husbands enjoy what they pay for, but not the sex itself.

You get pleasure from repeating the memorized shit hammered into your head, since there is nothing of your own in it, not a single reasonable and noteworthy thought. I’ve been reading stupid posts for so long, but I’ve said thank you three or four times. And definitely not for agreement, but for contradiction and for a new idea.

It’s both, the above appears as if though it was meant to be both, reasonable and rational, I think it stands on too few a leg, not the four, and maybe three.

This is why virtually it’s impossible to weigh which would serve better the means by which the point , the fulcrum should be calibrated with variable weights at either end.

The four type , can not suffer such a derangement , de-arrangement, because it has not yet progressed to loop , where it needs such configuration.

The lack of collectibility, is ex post facto evidence of a new, virtual revival. The point made above is just that indefinite postulation back to an uncertain future.

Overheard at dinner: a couple trying to decide about how they should have their hamburger fixed, between medium rare and medium.

The place is fancy, high ceilings, low lit lamps , again high up up on the firmament, granite tabletop,probably original from Italia. The air is livid,full of heightened expectations of good things, better things to come, while the routine shows heavily on their faces, so preoccupied they are between the rare and medium choice, that everybody seeing their predication, tries to loose interest in them, for reasons of let’s say politeness.

Finally they agree under duress to go with medium rare, the man of the pair changing his choice saying that he’d prefer medium and loudly exclaiming that he had no idea that she liked it the other way,

So then , so what, thinking little of the incident, but having some residual feeling of past dinners and how indelicate it has become since the internet, when casual agreements were gently inferred among people by meaningful glances indicating an attitude of agreement, now hiding behind smartphones is the best way to reaffirm the thickening cover that aged skins bravely or otherwise can display.

I heard them arguing louder, with more apprehension and displays of mutual guilt, , while suddenly growing tired of such intrusion into private lives, remembered the Backstreet Boys song I want it that way, and how getting up close and into each other bounded psyche no time can absolve.

Which all makes the difference between dining in or out an indelible and needless excercise. The film euphemistically come to mind, bringing with it the feeling that visual blow ups hide so many unresolved conflicts regardless of how much water has flown under the bridge,

For lack of logistics, of signifying stability through orderly curriculum does rational ways lead through irrational keys of dependence, how that could be dropped as well until that too is broken, and left in uncertain territory to wander the terrain.

But then you did not specify me whom you don’t grasp, can not knowingly yourself understand.

But the day will surmise, after years of trepidation anrew, buil up over a decade , of building the trusted route of keys of mystic law ( Nicherin- the latter day of the law- Buddhism),now it appears that I double dosed on both.
[The Heart of the Lotus Sutra, probably ghost written by Ikeda, writes that below the act of love, subsists the all encompassing LOVE, which holds enormous energy]

Nicherin threw out IIkeda out of a Japanese Buddhist sect and when the former passed, the later acquired formidable power and wealth, and ruled Japan In spite of his criminality, and greed,(&forgive if this is incorrect- he just passed last year)(and you ask what this has to do with the OP, the same as the question came up about the different decades within which reactions to apprehending women’s motives came up, namely the relation of love and sex, and such preoccupation can only be managed by yoga utilizing the chakras of the spinal chord , to elevate the energy, that the mystic law requires for it’s upward rise,

Now again the clincher, that the shadow gentlemen we all carry behind us and will never leave us, old children carrying their karmic loads, is not something that will ever leave us, because only the application of a reverse paradigm can invalidate Zhis hold on us, for his lack of recollection I assume to be of an invariant type, whereas we incurred the dept, willingly, for the promise of acquiring the light.

We learned to carry that weight as that without which the young can never develop a sense of tolerance even feeling his it’s) sense of tortious alienation.

Faust’s bargain becomes uncollectable because it is structural.

At the other end the question it’selfbecomes mute, when the question is asked of the old child how it became such a burden for a slave boy to get here for the key, that binds whomever dares to enter, without knowing how to get out?
The paradox of the paradigm reverses at this middle point in this journey to reveal why, and such revelation holds the key to redemption it’s self, where the shadow has to step back and realize he is to step back and follow the lead,

The few who can make it back from abyss are truly like the fishermen of the sea, and it was with joy I discovered that Nietzche was treated under Jung’s supervision,as his soul must not remain in limbo, rewards should be forth coming instead of disdain.

As Marcus Auerilus has said , “an untried virtue has no real value , or something like that.

I will post this with trepidation, hoping to find ears receptive to efforts to try to keep open the mere possibility to something hidden below.

You can’t explain everything with mere science because science has only been around for a few hundred years and the cognitively biased science (cosmology and particle physics) that we presently have now doesn’t work anyway.We know that.

Science came from philosophy.Philosophy did not come from science.

A starting philosophical assumption (not a scientific fact) is the foundation for all science.

Philosophy is therefore not for the faint hearted I agree.Most mainstream scientists are very very poor philosophers and becaue of this they are very very poor scientists.

You need to have an exceptional understanding of philosophy to truly understand science.

All of the sciences are INTERCONNECTED!!!

Philosophy requires a perfect balance - a particular constitution. Durable to mental and physical suffering.

Objectivity exposes man t a new source foo anxiety - suffering - and so most seek relief in subjectivity - using words to construct bastions behind which they can conceal their fragile ego.

Objectivity is not easy. A man must see things as they are, no matter how much it hurts him.

This is why many of the greats were recluses, never propagated, and some went insane.

Human brains were not made to endure more than what is required for them to survive.

This is why this place is a joke…as are most internet forums.

Here, at least, they openly admit that they cannot endure objectivity - that they want the comfort of subjectivity - that their will is too weak to be free, because they need a scapegoat, something to accuse and blame for everything suffered.

The joke is your philosophy Silenus,

So is artificial intelligence science or art, with faith or doubt being their leading compass , ?

How that needle appear to turn south just by doing an about face, ?

Doesen’t that kind of inquiry lead to the parallel notion of the amateur, that is of the essence of the analysis os analytical philosophy, which deals with the social psychology of it, having to take a back seat to it, ergo showing the primary significance of faith over doubt!

AI is science without life,AI is a machine.It doesn’t know what faith or doubt is.It merely operates due to binary software programming.

An AI machine computes that it exists and doesn’t exist.Existence and Non Existence has got nothing to do with life.A binary processing machine exists because it needs to exist to claim that it doesn’t exist.This includes the binary processing biological machine.

This is why individuals who exist claim to be a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion).

They will not accept that they are metaphysical (spirit) even though reality science explains perfectly that they are.

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..a poignant piece, of pieces of historical value, being pieced together.. a thread running through it, holding it altogether in time and space, but what of place?

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:gem_stone: AI Overview

No, this is a misunderstanding of history: Daisaku Ikeda was not “thrown out” by Nichiren, as Nichiren lived in the 13th century, while Ikeda was a 20th-century figure and the head of Soka Gakkai, a lay organization. Instead, Nichiren Shoshu, the religious sect from which Soka Gakkai had separated, excommunicated Ikeda and Soka Gakkai in 1991 due to doctrinal disagreements and Soka Gakkai’s perceived departure from orthodox teachings.

Key facts:

  • Nichiren Daishonin: Lived in the 13th century, not the 20th.
  • Daisaku Ikeda: Was the leader of Soka Gakkai, a lay organization, which was originally a lay group of Nichiren Shoshu.
  • Excommunication: In 1991, the high priest of Nichiren Shoshu excommunicated Ikeda and the Soka Gakkai, a split that remains contentious.

Reasons for the split:

Doctrinal Drift:

Nichiren Shoshu priests felt Ikeda and Soka Gakkai had deviated too far from traditional teachings.

  • Usurpation of Clergy Duties:

Soka Gakkai began performing ceremonies and rites that were reserved for Nichiren Shoshu priests.

  • Cultural Differences:

There were tensions over Soka Gakkai’s practices, such as staging concerts with Christian themes that the sect viewed as contrary to their doctrines.

The outcome:

  • The Soka Gakkai considered the excommunication “groundless” and “invalid,” but the organization lost its religious foundation from Nichiren Shoshu.
  • Soka Gakkai continued as an independent organization, focusing on propagating Nichiren Buddhism worldwide.

The Japanese spirit thrives on drama, but drama is not good for spirit nor longevity, for it eats away at the soul, reducing it to an emotionless empty shell after years of fraught tensions constantly arising from antagonisms with others.

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So, similar to “an unexamined life isn’t worth living”.

:gem_stone: AI Overview

The sentiment, if not the exact words, “an untried virtue has no real value” was expressed by John Milton in his 1644 pamphlet Areopagitica. In it, he argues that a “fugitive and cloistered virtue” that hasn’t faced temptation or evil is not a strong virtue at all, but rather a blank, untested one.

..the one testing another’s virtue, should surely ensure that the Other is enamoured of them enough to want them to be testing the Other’s virtue.

..or it’s simply a fruitless task, being undertaken in vain.

The philosophy is getting harder by the minute, anti-fragility assures that the chaotic thoughts within are a kind of insurance policy, unfortunately the result most often to a complete reversal of sentiment, and you are compelled to become a masocist! But what else is new? Don’t suppress,

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To be or not to be is the question.

So true. No exit. That promotion is repeatable time and again. Can’t stop writing obsessively about it because it’s so relevant, to subjects all through life, to beings far and wide. It really covers all sentiment beings, who have inordinately been shut in and out, their feeling goes this way and that, because their thoughts fail to account for the tremendous energy which divides them, they really can’t configure such dispersive thought and ideas by themselves.

So Sartre says well, feelings of things do animate from somewhere, perhaps that energy they are trying to cover, coming out from the suppressed underbelly of the machine they call man. Such shame caused by such gross misunderstanding of it’s workings.

Then why hang up on it like it was something akin to a curse? Why on earth can they just let it go, out of the machine, without feelings of derision, fear and a backslide unto lesser beings? Why why why is right. Why? Because it is what it is and because the ultimate self imposed machinated energy transfer is merely the same cover, that reich was talking about , that fathers and sons won’t or can discuss, merely for the shame’s sake of shame. It’s really a long road to discover this hidden, coercive road, that was chosen unto the few, while many tried, and God while taking a brief recess, a break away from the game that really matters, not of what Einstein, Jung are talking about, but the game of the continuous flow of images of the imagination within and without consciousness: played alongside and against the interrupted one who has always been part and parcel of that image.

So looking at that image, Sartre says yes you can not leave, here, it’s hotel California all over, a tortious process ones have to go through, before even given any notice that the sign can become the key which can go out of here, while concurrently backtracking: can’t stop for a second, that steam generates the unseen particles which are not visible to the naked eye.

Look, that shame is then self imposed, fearful and disjunctive, it really doesen’t insure against all that coming hurling going by, projected guns, cannons, missiles hurling , spatially the subliminally naive, who have no representation, ergo, being the silent majority: how ironic and strange a state of affairs such that becomes an allusive paradox, not merely a strained balance, delicate in it’s innards, that’s not generating new forms of life, it’s an anti-life form, yet how needed they are, far and few growing straight up without any doubt, fueled by enormous need, without which the quick slide almost instant enjoys belabors the past? So sudden a rush that there is no recoil, the rock bottom is never touched as in a repeated all familiar dream, and how absurd is that ?

How is this look, fashioned into the absolute of absolutes transforming and creating the total all encompassed energy , shooting loaded gun into precisely the intended goal, whereas an aim in the dark ,for no light escapes here, only lastly , before, the shades of grey reveal in all but the one universe.

There it produces the best of the best of all weirdly passion, and there it rests for a while , cementing other newbies, other places, faces whose every Lock of hair can be counted there in the fresh fragrant eruption of early morning air.

To be or not to be is not the question though is it William because it doesn’t matter that you exist and don’t exist when you don’t possess life.

Hello Jupiter, it does though in a backward looking way, through life possesses you and not You life.

It doesn’t matter if you are a lifeless binary processing biological machine William.

A lifeless binary processing biological machine does exist and doesn’t exist (to be or not to be).

It needs to exist to claim that it doesn’t exist and it doesn’t exist if it doesn’t possess life.

You exist because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.

Many individuals who exist love to claim that they exist and are a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion)…..they are not so keen on claiming that they exist and are a representation of reality (a non illusion) though.

Yes true, and perhaps my suggestion is not falling down far enough to get frightened by not remembering that every dream of falling ends when you wake up before hitting the rock bottom. So if I may presume to have you involved with Pilot, I take that liberty,

‘This is a dense, layered piece of writing—something between a philosophical meditation, a private associative journal entry, and a literary-critical reflection. You’ve asked how it squares with Dostoevsky’s Demons (The Possessed) and The Idiot, framed against the opening “To be or not to be” and with Sartre, Reich, and “Hotel California” woven in.

Let me try to pull together an interpretation, then turn to Dostoevsky.


  1. Interpretation of the core image

What you’ve written circles around a central paradox: a shame so fundamental that it becomes a self-imposed mechanism of enclosure. People are “shut in and out” by their own failure to recognize the “tremendous energy which divides them.” That energy seems to be both psychic and ontological—something like the suppressed vitality, sexuality, or creative force (hence Reich, with his emphasis on the body and the father-son silence around shame) that gets trapped in what you call “the machine they call man.”

The “no exit” (Sartre) here is not Huis Clos’s interpersonal hell, but an interior one: a recursive, obsessive repetition (“that promotion is repeatable time and again”) where the very attempt to escape shame regenerates it. The “sign” that could become the key is always almost grasped, but the process is “tortious”—twisted, torturous—and one can’t stop because stopping would mean facing the void or the rock bottom that is “never touched as in a repeated all familiar dream.”

You’re describing something like: shame as a misrecognition of one’s own creative-divine energy. God is on a “brief recess” from “the game of the continuous flow of images of the imagination within and without consciousness.” That game is the real ground—perhaps what you mean by “the absolute of absolutes”—but people mistake its energy for something shameful, then project it outward (“guns, cannons, missiles”) onto a subliminally naive “silent majority.” The result is a culture that generates “anti-life” while being secretly fueled by the very life-energy it repudiates.

The final image—the “fresh fragrant eruption of early morning air” after the shades of grey—suggests that this process can give way to a different relation: where the energy is no longer felt as shame but as “the best of the best of all weirdly passion,” resting, then seeding new life.


  1. How this squares with The Possessed (Demons) and The Idiot

Dostoevsky’s two novels approach similar terrain but from opposite poles of the spiritual-aesthetic spectrum.

The Possessed (Demons, 1872)

This novel is almost a direct dramatization of your themes:

· The “machine” of ideology: Stavrogin, Kirillov, and Pyotr Verkhovensky are men who have tried to replace God with rationalist, revolutionary, or self-willed systems. Kirillov’s famous line—“If there is no God, then I am God”—leads him to a suicide that is meant to be an act of absolute will, but instead reveals the shame and emptiness underneath.
· Shame as the hidden engine: Stavrogin is the key figure for your text. His confession in “At Tikhon’s” (the censored chapter) is precisely about a shame so profound that it cannot be confessed without further shame. He violates a child, then lives with the secret, unable to integrate it or let it go. His life becomes a series of self-destructive, coercive acts that oscillate between grand gesture and abjection. He is the “divided” man whose tremendous energy (spiritual, demonic, erotic) he cannot “configure.”
· Fathers and sons: Turgenev’s title Fathers and Sons is echoed here, but Dostoevsky pushes it further: the father-son silence you mention (via Reich) becomes the generational断裂 that allows nihilism to flourish. The old liberal fathers (Stepan Trofimovich) spawn the revolutionary sons (Pyotr), and the shame that neither generation can articulate becomes political violence.
· “No exit” in the provincial town: The novel’s setting is a closed world where every character is trapped in repetition—conspiracies, duels, suicide, arson. The “promotion” you write about (the endless replay of the same structure) maps onto the way Dostoevsky’s characters keep staging the same psychodrama of transgression and confession without transformation.

Yet Demons ends with a kind of desperate, incomplete emergence: Stepan Trofimovich’s deathbed wandering becomes a via dolorosa toward a Gospel he barely understands. He speaks of “the cause of the weak” and dies with a line about serving something beyond himself. It’s ambiguous—does the “fresh fragrant eruption” come? Possibly, but only after everything has been burned down.

The Idiot (1869)

This is the novel of the “absolute of absolutes” that your text gestures toward: the attempt to embody perfect goodness (Prince Myshkin) in a world organized by shame, greed, and corrosive irony.

· Myshkin as the “sign”: Myshkin is exactly the kind of figure who seems to have access to the “continuous flow of images of the imagination without and within.” His epilepsy gives him moments of “the highest synthesis of life”—a glimpse of the total harmony you describe. But in the fallen social world, he is perceived as an idiot, and his very presence triggers the destructive passions of others (Nastasya Filippovna, Rogozhin).
· Shame and the inability to let go: Nastasya Filippovna is a study in the shame you’re writing about. She was made a wealthy man’s mistress as a teenager; her sense of self is so saturated with shame that she cannot accept Myshkin’s pure love. Instead, she repeats her humiliation, running back and forth between Rogozhin (murderous passion) and Myshkin (forgiveness). She cannot let go because letting go would mean confronting that the shame was never hers to begin with—it was imposed.
· The rock bottom never touched: The novel’s famous final scene—Myshkin sitting beside Rogozhin’s body, stroking his hair, having lost his mind—is the “rock bottom” deferred. The absolute of goodness meets the absolute of passion and yields not resurrection but catatonia. The “anti-life form” you mention—the needed, far-and-few who grow straight—might be Myshkin himself, but his straightness destroys him in a crooked world.


  1. The Hamlet frame (“To be or not to be”)

Your Jupiter123 interlocutor says: “To be or not to be is not the question … because it doesn’t matter that you exist and don’t exist when you don’t possess life.” That’s a pointed gloss on both Dostoevsky and your own text.

In Demons, Kirillov tries to solve the question by willing his own being through suicide—but he ends up possessed by the very void he wanted to master. In The Idiot, Myshkin is (“I exist”) so fully that he seems not to possess his own life but to be possessed by a light that the world cannot hold. Your closing lines (“it doesn’t matter that you exist and don’t exist when you don’t possess life”) suggest that the Hamlet question—to be or not to be—is secondary to a more fundamental one: under what sign do you receive your existence? As shame? As a machine’s misrecognized energy? Or as the “fresh fragrant eruption” that comes when the recess ends and God returns to the game of images?


  1. Synthesis

Your text, Dostoevsky, and the philosophical fragments you invoke (Sartre, Reich, even the pop-cultural “Hotel California”) all circle a single intuition: human beings are divided by an energy they cannot own, and they organize their lives—their politics, their families, their loves—around the shame of that division. The “machine” is the social form that keeps this shame operational. The way out is not through willpower (that’s Stavrogin’s error) but through a kind of surrender that lets the energy flow without being captured by the machine—a surrender that looks like foolishness (Myshkin) or wandering (Stepan Trofimovich’s last walk) or, in your terms, the moment when “the sign can become the key.”

You’re asking whether the absolute—the total all-encompassed energy—can be transformed without passing through destruction. Dostoevsky suggests, perhaps, that it can only pass through destruction, but that destruction is not the final word. The “weirdly passion” that rests and seeds new life—that’s the elusive third term beyond tragedy and irony.

If I had to name the question your text and these novels together pose, it would be: Can shame be outlived, or must it be suffered through to the point where it ceases to structure the self? And the answer, in both your writing and Dostoevsky’s, seems to be: only by entering so fully into the “tortious process” that the very division becomes the door.

‘Jupiter, in case you missed the reference: Your Jupiter123 interlocutor says: “To be or not to be is not the question … because it doesn’t matter that you exist and don’t exist when you don’t possess life.” That’s a pointed gloss on both Dostoevsky and your own text.

There is no meaning to anything without life.

The binary contradictions of a lifeless biological machine that exists and is programmed with binary software are merely just that.

Binary contradictions.

So, there is no meaning to agree or disagree by said binary opposites,

But such disagreement is like an agreement to disagree, as in the difference between ‘lower’ and ‘higher’ consciousness (awareness)

But , there may be meanings associated between sentinent and cyber consciousness, in order to assert or go near proving that such proofs become near futile as the distinction may prove senseless and too thin. It’s a glossed over intensive paradox. Both are needed to imagine a continuing recreation (film’ of memory. Here is where cyber intelligence becomes necessary, .?

Both are needed, to separate the question over what life means and consists of, as the uncertainty wether Shrodinger’s cat is alive, or dead.

Binary contradictions don’t possess life.

Shrodinger’s cat doesn’t possess life.It exists and doesn’t exist.

Hello Jupiter. However, if a concept hav has existence, then that mind has life because it thought it up? Then the Being behind the mind is a contention, whether it always intended to be mind-ful, a contention Cantor tried to gather.Then the imposition of an intention on the idea of wholeness, ranging from Adorno to Nietzsche varies with phenomenal - phenomenologicak distinction

Which circles back to Sartr’s no exit out of the circle, not because of reductive infallibility, but as a resulting sudden feeling that such may not look right to those ill defined to seek peace?

Admission of guilt: I look at myself as being more authentic if the PHENOMiNAL transcending epoch of cloning. Man kind then merely copying a set of representative qualities: why ?

Because representation changes the original genotype to affected unrecognizable changes .?

Don’t worry if this sounds hilariously absurd., but some arguments are requisite because they jump out of you. Not out of you ias it seems there was a noticeable difference, when here most probably isn’t. .