Philosophy of never having done Drugs, Boozing or Smoking

Let me put it to you thus way, you give me a hit of weed, I may destroy the species, you get me totally drunk, and, well, I’ll be calm…

No matter how drunk I get, I still have control over inhibitions, my mind us completely there, and sharp.

I don’t drink much anyways, but substances aren’t black and white, and people who can’t use certain ones have to live with those who need them, and deal with it.

:laughing:

My unit prior to me arriving to it was sent back early from Afghanistan due to heavy drug use, the Pentagon was afraid of parallels to Soviet drug use there. I sat through a few years of unit drug rehab, before it was trusted to redeploy in 2006.

It also had the highest incidence of alcohol abuse in the Army, helped by the long nights of the Alaskan winter. I was told I was one of under ten guys out of the 600 who didn’t drink. Fun nights having PTSD rageaholics randomly busting in doors, trying to kill whoever was on the inside. Sober up, nice guys… at night,not so nice. Nobody wanted to report the worst Sargent, he list his off post privledges, menaced the barracks… had to use my skies to barracade the door at times.

My roommate nearly died from a overdose of Synthetic Morphine… saved his pointless life. Im afraid to check to see if he is still alive or not, don’t want to know.

West Virginia here has a massive heroine and crystal Meth epidemic. It kills 2-4 people a week at the Emergency Room. My town has less that 20,000 people. My brother and sister both have both been sent to jail for heroine, among other things, but heroine was the cause. I didn’t expect my sister to live, but she apparently accepted my advice in her drugged out state.

I have a really strong background in psychology, and can type a person at a glance. I don’t know why you assume I wouldn’t be aware of what goes on. I might not know every drug on the street, as I don’t use, but I’m decent at diagnosing behavioral deficits. How in the hell could someone like me not take notice or drawl conclusions when every guy in his age group was jailed except him from his neighborhood (honestly, everyone sent to juvenile court, just me and their sisters on the bus)… by best friend cut the eye out of a random guy at a party, a party he had to break into… was not invited.

I’m doing to apply some inductive and deductive thinking to these occasions. My life in so many ways have been destroyed by the damn shit and I never used it. I was abandoned in my teens. Try being informed your mom was on the run, a few years before being of age.

I’m not fucking interested in taking anything. I don’t see any resounding success stories. If it wasn’t for the stern independence streak and determination against all odds, the capacity to walk where the angels fear to tread, I wouldn’t be anything.

Eventually, every community and era produces anti-bodies. I’m a aspect of this response. I’ve been working on building a UV camera that neighborhood watches can use to detect residential drug labs. There will be a counter strike, and we will take back our cities. I don’t give a fuck about what people say otherwise, it’s no longer up to you and your retarded excuses. I’ve had enough, and I will triumph.

You might want to define “handle” here?
Seems to be just another case where we “believe” we are in control.

If that WERE the case, why bother taking a drug in the first place - if in fact drugs do not change our reality, do not change brain chemistry and patterns, do not change human consciousness (and not for the better)?

You might want to also define “reality”?

No… no one has to define reality, that’s a self-defeating task.

If a judge asks you as a expert witness to define reality, stare at his forhead silently till he asks you what your looking at, then reply your looking at the dick growing out of his forhead.

By the perspective of some, their reality just might be that the judge was a unicorn. :mrgreen:

So what are you saying here - that there cannot be any subjective yet at the same time objective reality?
I think there is the other side of that coin, Gussie, when I/we don’t at least attempt to define reality (our own human existential reality experience) that is when we become self-defeating entities. What is consciousness for after all but trying to “see” what is “real”.

See, you are still thinking too damn small. You’ve merely noted evidence of a conjunction to a dualism, or a very primitive three point feedback loop in the mind.

Reality, like Power, is a increasingly meaningless term the closer you get to describing it in logical detail. It dissapears. You showed Object and Subject isn’t enough (horray for you), and note it links up to a I/We dichotomy.

So… does I/We preceded objective and subjective thought, or does it come after? Does it link more to subjective or objective thinking? Is there a perceptual continuum, or is it merely momentary?

Don’t anyone answer her, let her think this one out.

Nerves processing this shaped like:

y

or

λ

in terms how it sends information… does it divide or combine?

Your TV cables do this
λ

One line from the cable company, and you then split the information per cord to each TV.

So… you’ve established at least three elements are at play. Does it divide λ or does it combine y

Or is it a closed conscious loop, complete in and of itself? Or us there much more at play than your existentialist presumptions?

Also consider this Arc when trying to figure out the ordering of your Existentialist presumptions:

plato.stanford.edu/entries/schoo … nting.html

The clarification of things lead to paradox when we present them holistically. The sum of the parts of the observed multiply, with a causal effect that of the observer multiplies as well, but it’s at unequal rates. A presumption of the Objective-Subjective Dichotomy expects the observer and the observe to remain static, and furthermore, if we accept the qualities of the observed to increase, the observe should increase at the same congruent rate.

This isn’t the case. It pisses people off severely, maddening, or turns them into skeptics and mystics. Your presumption can lead to a paradoxical inverse.

Side effect of perception… there is always more than one way of perceiving, but we aren’t capable of them all at the sane time. When we say cleverly ‘this is that’ we overlook. Our memories of things become effected, our recall; aesthetics effect and guids our expected perception, and not the other way around like Descartes demands.

Its important to observe this when observing, or you won’t see what your looking at, because objectivity has a knack of obscuring things.