Positive and Negative Nihilism

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[size=140](Some people actually think and reason the world in this way;
This thread is designed to mock and humiliate these types of people.)[/size]

Negative Nihilism

I’m hungry. I lack food. I need to eat, to survive, to X. My need represents deficiency. Deficiency represents self hatred, self loathing, and resentiment. Because I am hungry, I hate myself and the natural forces which caused this to happen, again and again. Hunger represents deficiency represents need represents lack represents resentiment represents self hatred represents “negative” nihilism. I hate the world “as it is”, a world in which I am hungry. I go to the fridge, searching for food. There is none in there. Therefore I hate myself and all life. I hate the causes of my hunger. I hate my needs, my mortality, my materialistic dependency. All of these “negative” forces justify an accusation of inferiority. Because I am hungry, I must be inferior (to those who are not hungry).

All hungry people are inferior, self hating, negative nihilists.

Positive Nihilism

I look into the fridge and see nothing there. But I hope that there is a ham and cheddar sandwich. I close the fridge door and open it again, hoping that reality changes according to my personal desires and subjective wishes. I want the entire world to revolve around me. Still nothing, still no food in there. I keep opening and closing the door of the fridge, hoping that if I believe enough and have enough faith, that a ham sandwich will appear. It does not. My hope represents “positive nihilism”. I want to change the world, change reality, according to my personal preferences. I prefer to not be hungry. I need to eat.

I go to the store, buy some ingredients, make some sandwiches, eat one, and put the leftovers into the refrigerator. Now when I open and close the door, there is a ham sandwich in there. I have changed the world. My “positive nihilism”, my faith, my hope, my desires, all caused me to manipulate the world in such a way that now appears a ham sandwich when I look into the fridge. I changed reality, as originally hoped for. I am now superior and self loving, due to my faith, hope, and belief in a “better” world, a world of my choosing and preference. A world that revolves around me and my desires. The universe cares about me.

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Good, bad, right, and wrong? chuckles

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Non-religious

Blah blah blah. We’re retards. Blah blah blah.

Religious

Blah blah blah. We’re retards. Blah blah blah.

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Am I doing it right?

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No, not convincing enough.

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That is not Nihilism, at least by the definition. That is different thing altogether if you want to define that way.
Hope and Nihilism just cannot get along.

with love,
sanjay

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The Nietzscheans who rationalize in this way, define positive nihilism as the self hatred that comes from wanting to change the world, or any state of existence, due to lack, deficiency, and need.

This involves believing the world revolves around you, or that the universe cares for your existence. The hope spawned from these deficiencies, rejects the world “as it is” in exchange for a “better world”.

A world in which there is always a sandwich in my fridge, and I’m never hungry again…positive nihilism.

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In that case, the term Nihilism would lose its meaning.
Nihilism means that everything is useless and that cannot be changed either.

And secondly, why N cannot be wrong?
After all, he was also mere a human philosopher and his philosophy was also the product of his own mind, which was very much open to mistakes also, perhaps more than others.

Thirdly, if hope and change can gel with Nihilism, i am sure that Jesus was bigger Nihilistic than N himself and perhaps the biggest one that the mankind has ever produced. I do not think of any other person who ever made that sort of effort in giving hope and changing the people.

Ask any on the N’s followers.

with love,
sanjay

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If we really take all that is left after we remove the quotes from our Nietzschean pals, there would probably not be left more than a sandwich, or a shadow of it.

I have never seen any of them describing someone’s character, putting all parts together so as they are in a specific soul.

Mostly vain people who, because of the blond hair think they are “masters”.

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Thank God, i am mostly blad since long.

with love,
sanjay

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So “positive nihilism” means “being able to attain a goal” and “negative nihilism” means “being unable to attain a goal”?

Interesting.

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Astute interpretation