LampAndNightingale
(6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)
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Like all Muslims, l would be reluctant to invite a Q&A about Islam because it is a big responsibility - but sometimes l think it’s necessary.
So, l propose a formal debate in the following format:
Me vs. maximum 2 opponents
5 rounds, maximum 1,000 words each
Max. 1 question about Islam in any round, but a round could just be your followup to a prior round instead
As always, no logical fallacies, including false logical fallacy callouts (which default to non sequitur)
No idle insults, argue sincerely
The emphasis is on productive chat, results. Even: points scored. By all means, join if you want to score points, l’m not insecure about that.
This is just a debate request. Please don’t hijack the thread to make the request thread a debate in itself. What happens when you do that is, people jump in with arguments against my faith, l answer politely that l want a formal debate, then more accusations ensue, even if already answered.
Then, of course, someone else jumps in several days into it, and makes the same arguments all over again, albeit with wilder abandon.
The debate is the debate, this is just a request.
If anybody is interested just say so. That’s all that is needed.
It sounds interesting idea. I would like to participate.
Small info: I do not have any intention to insult religious people and their beliefs. I prefer to discuss more generally: how you see God, the interaction with humans, how we distinguish good from bad practice of religion etc. Historical references that I have in mind are not related to the prophet Mohammed.
If it is ok with you, count me in.
I guess we need opening statements too. Is this counted on the 5 rounds?
I don’t understand. Is it a Q&A or a debate? Are the people you’re inviting going to ask you questions, or debate you? What you’ve laid out doesn’t seem very clear.
as @Flannel_Jesus said, this doesnt seem like a QnA where you wanna clear your doubts.
and also i would like to remind you, there are some very important rules to keep a debate from becoming a rant or an argument.
success is to the one who realises he/she was wrong and admits to it.
also it may be the debater might not have known some argument or fact and expecting them to admit defeat immediately without letting them go and dwell on the arguments is irrational and is one of the sole reasons people dont wanna debate.
LampAndNightingale
(6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)
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Hi there @ghatzige apologies for the delay, l was fasting during Ramadan.
I would welome you to the debate. I think the best way to do it is have max. 3 opponents (up from the 2 that l wanted originally), who can support each other in that they can take their cue from each other, fill in gaps in the other’s arguments etc.
The 3 people can either all be present at the start, or they may join on a rolling basis.
So, the implementation would be like this:
Opponent 1 (and 2 and 3 if they exist) makes their opening statements about Islam. These may be things they are curious about, or they may be criticism of Islam, phrased thoughtfully, with academic rigour.
To each opponent, l make 1 reply. My reply to each opponent signals the end of Round 1.
Repeat until 5 rounds are complete.
Then, we can have further debates, but they will be separate debates enitrely.
The rest of the rules are as per the OP:
5 rounds, maximum 1,000 words each
Max. 1 question about Islam in any round, but a round could just be your followup to a prior round instead
As always, no logical fallacies, including false logical fallacy callouts (which default to non sequitur)
No idle insults, argue sincerely
The emphasis is on productive chat, results. Even: points scored. By all means, join if you want to score points, l’m not insecure about that.
All well thought out arguments or questions are welcome, this is about clearing up doubts as well as just resolving queries. Hopefully it will prevent harm against my co-religionists in real life, if people air their doubts formally, with respect, but without holding back either.
Looks like ghatzige and LampAndNightingale are committed, so I’ll set this up as a ‘competitive Q&A’ (that could end up looking a lot like a debate, but framing matters).
