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its like this. ice age. neanderthal. europe. harsh conditions thousands of years ago. near 45,000 BC then “whitey” moved upward to europe (i put “whitey” in quotes because they were a black man at this time.) “whitey” bred with neanderthal (neanderthal had larger brain than they did.) neanderthal goes extinct leaving only “whitey” (still a black man at this time.) “whitey” transitions to actually white starting around 10,000 BC (or at least that’s what the Ai told me this time.)

importantly, the key concept here is that there is a “genetic buildup” of “genetic potentials”. adverse, shit environment conditions builds up the “genetic stock”. then later in the “fertile crescent” by this time it creates stable environment condition which is stable enough to create stable civilizations and build tech. It is the genetic build up from aeons of adverse environment conditions, then a stable environment allowing the genetic buildup to utilize its stored potentials.

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Actually…the tribes that were Caucasians descended from the caucuses, due to the Ice Age - and its adverse climatic conditions - …and dominated local populations in northern India and in Europe.
Like those Hellenic tribes that migrated into the Greek peninsula to dominate the pelasgians…

Ergo…the linguistic Indo-European family tree…traces the Indo-European race…having as many idioms as there are ethnicities.
Sub-categories…

Same as the splintering of the bonobos from the chimpanzees, caused by population pressures and climate, producing isolation.
No trade involved…oh well.

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yeah idk, maybe the ai is wrong. they told me they moved from africa to europe 40,000 years ago and became white 10,000 years ago.

this map it looks like they moved from africa to caucuses 100,000 years ago.

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It is said that what became the Indo-European race, had been reduced to numbers near extinction…so we are decedents of a few hundred clever individuals that managed to survive.
It is the first near-extinction event…the second being the Black plague…and the third is occurring right now…and Carleas and Sculptor are examples of this mental dis-ease…this self-hating disease…
They want to erase their own kind, under the belief that all humans are the same…and tribalism must be overcome.
Notice they say nothing of one specific tribe…that has based its entire victim identity and survival on its tribal identity.
Silence there…and if you say something they will attak you, in their defense…because they’ve suffered enough.

So, tribalism bad…except for those 12 tribes…that’s okay…and let’s invent some plausible narrative, remaining within the 10 000 years that suit our Marxist motives, and the utopian theory we’ve adopted, because we couldn’t have thought this crap up ourselves…and then let’s blame it all on capitalism…you know trade.
Trade is the great evil…and eliminating trade, or controlling it will eliminate all human inequalities. ..and we’ll live happily ever after…the end.

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Map Shows How Humans Migrated Across The Globe

An animated map of human migrations.

No trade during most of this…zero trade.

Yet…the environment changes man physically, during this entire process, leaving his mind alone…because nature is fair and sweet…and a communist, or, at least, very liberal.
Finally trade fucks everything up…damn capitalism!!!
Exploiting those poor blacks…just because they are black? And blacks had no way to fight back…their trade was more benevolent.

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Alright so 50,000 years ago blacks went to the Caucasus mountains.

Then 40,000 years ago they move to Europe.

How did they become white though?

This guy says whites are inbred albinos.

im getting a headache and neckache and eyeache. i read most of it but dont have a solid opinion. nobody builds chairs worth a damn in this society.

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also i have a brand new hypothesis of white intelligence that doesn’t require environment. look at it like this. the blacks that moved to europe were nomads. that in of itself indicates intelligence. many were probably rejects of their own society, misfits. others were bored of a static existence. others in search of a better world. and they had to be fit enough to navigate and travel along journey. the act of movement alone could have already selected for intelligence.

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Alright so 50,000 years ago blacks went to the Caucasus mountains.

Then 40,000 years ago they move to Europe.

How did they become white though?

No, they were not, sub-Saharan blacks…they had already began to change.

White is a result of low sunlight, preventing the absorption of vita mine D, if the skin is pigmented.
So, pigmentation was naturally selected out of a population, just as IQ began to rise because creativity was essential to surviving adverse conditions.

also i have a brand new hypothesis of white intelligence that doesn’t require environment. look at it like this. the blacks that moved to europe were nomads. that in of itself indicates intelligence. many were probably rejects of their own society, misfits. others were bored of a static existence. others in search of a better world. and they had to be fit enough to navigate and travel along journey. the act of movement alone could have already selected for intelligence.

No…migrations happened for the same reason troops of chimpanzees moved up into mountainous areas…
Forced migrations due to group conflicts…war.
We still see it in chimpanzees, but not bonobos…again, forced migrations, isolation, time, and envirnmetnal stressors, cause speciation…and sub-species are an intermediate phase…an d human races are just that.

Animals do not move into less hospitable environments because they are bored, or because they are misfits.

Entire groups are pushed out of territories, due to group competition.

This is the irony…weaker groups are forced into less hospitable areas, where they become isolated and become stronger than those that pushed them out…then they return to conquer the ancestors of those that had pushed their ancestors out.

This is exactly what happened to the chimpanzee troops that became the bonobo sub-species.
This is what occurs when sub-species evovle…sometimes populations are isolated due to extreme environmental shifts…it depends.
What applies for ALL species must apply to man…no trade…no trade is involved in the development of sub-species in other species…
This is a postmodern Marxist excuse…and its ridiculously naive and absurd.
All those obsessed with maintaining their ideal, that men are superficially different and only suffer socioeconomic effects…because those they can “correct” and thusly create their utopian world…do you see?
It’s all based on a deep desire to not be excluded…not be judged on appearances…not be exploited.
Herd psychology is how Nietzsche put it.
Herds need quantities…and produce uniformity as a result of their defensive needs.
This is what is happening here, on a subconscious level.

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Map video says this:

Point looks to be subsaharan in the middle of Kenya.
50,000 years ago Kenyans move to Australia.
Around this time they move across the red sea, at this time it looks like they reach the Caucasus mountains

on this website he adamantly professes that vitamin D theory is wrong

note that i do not have a solid opinion because i have a neckache and humans cant make chairs worth a damn

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Well then…why do you thnik humans became white?
god…just for the fuck of it…chance…aliens…
Forget vitamin D…sunlight…
Black skin protects from sunlight…where there isn’t much sunlight there’s no need for it…NECESSITY.
Goddess Ananke.

Where there is no need there is no evolution…
Where there was no need for abstract thinking, creativity, etc…none developed over a certain level…where there was a very pressing need, only those traits that offered an advantaged were passed on.

But we are not omnipotent…so god could have done it…for laughs…to confuse us…race is god’s trick…like free-will. An illusion.
Maybe aliens did it…who knows, right?
Maybe aliens bleached our skin…to fuck us up.
Maybe trading bleached our skin because we traded bleach and it spilled on some.

And what’s up with the straight hair and squinty eyes…terrible.
Trading glass might have been the culprit.

Maybe traders made it fashionable to straighten the hair…and the woman loved it…and poof it happened.
Let’s not discount magic…the supernatural…could be an explanation.
Who knows, right?

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Could be aliens yes. But i said earlier that guy thinks vitamin D theory is bs, i said his theory is that they are inbred albinos. if you want to quote what he says and then prove it is bullshyte that would be sufficient

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Yes…we whites are inbred albinos…
And straight hair is because the albinos had down syndrome.
Nice…
All whites are the ancestors of inbred albinos with down syndrome…and that’s how they conquered the world.
Could be. :thinking: It’s possible…
We are brainstorming now…

Ooooorrrr… :face_with_bags_under_eyes:
What if some black girl saw a ghost and she turned white and then she was screwed by her black boyfriend and the baby was born white?
No…the ghost screwed her… that’s more plausible…spirit - human crossbreeding…
Could be…could be… :thinking:

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hmm i did not read the down syndrome part… did he really say that or is that just your interjection?

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Right, but the actual evidence is just that some group of humans, given a literal Garden of Eden at the crossroads of human migration and trade, are able to develop civilization and technology. And we don’t have the counterfactual of what happens when Sub-Saharan African populations with no Neanderthal admixture are dropped into the Garden of Eden at the crossroads of human migration and trade, so we don’t have a comparison point to say that Neanderthal DNA has anything to do with anything.

But the pattern of development of civilization and technology doesn’t track the pattern of Neanderthal admixture, it tracks the pattern of trade. The spread of civilization and technology looks like memetic spread along trade routes, not genetic spread of Neanderthal NDA or whatever.

The effect is a bit confounded because trade leads to genetic mixing, but if technological transmission precedes genetic transmission (and it does, e.g. prehistoric Egypt had significant technological development in the Nile Delta), and genetic transmission can happen without technological transmission (and it can, e.g. Melanesians have high rates of Neanderthal DNA but low connection to global trade), then we should conclude that wealth differences (including wealth generated by trade) and not genetic differences explain the timing of civilization and technological progress.

So the ‘genetic buildup’ idea is a lovely hypothesis, but the evidence doesn’t match what we’d expect to see if it were true. Access to migration and trade better explains the difference in outcomes.

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This crap about white man’s intelligence is superior from a black man.

The blacks have been denied their rights for years.
But have survived!

If they had or have been given the same advantages, opportunities as the whites there would be no perceived imbalance in the so called superiority of white man.

If you read up on or look at the docos in the 60’s they were denied access to riding on buses with whites, attending colleges, drinking from public water fountains that whites used, swimming in public baths, using separate entrances, the list goes on, the humiliation they have suffered would be beyond what a white man could endure.

The Klu Klux Klan was/is? opportunity for weak white men to vent their anger on others in a cowardly ‘covered’ up way.

“History is littered with the evil consequences of one group of humans believing they are superior to another group of humans.”

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Transhumanists believe that technologies can be used to improve human intelligence, physical strength and cognitive abilities.

Some say this is fantastic isn’t it?

My question is who will it be available to. The wealthy.

The line between humanity and machines will become increasingly blurred.

So what are the potential risks in all this for humans?

How do we ensure privacy and consent when using AI?

What about potential privacy breaches.

The Ancestry companies people give their salivia to and their extensive information about their family and pay a fee to find where their roots lie, (maybe I come from a royal line, my ancestors were great warriors, or my great great grandfather was a serial killer,etc) do they stop and consider where this information is being passed on to? A perfect pathway for government databases.

Unfortunately there are some people who become attached to AI as if it was human, (see the movie Her as an example) but AI doesn’t have emotions, it cannot understand a person’s feelings deeply, because it doesn’t experience emotions like humans do.

What is forgotten in all this is, at the end of the day, AI is just a tool and not to dismiss, we are talking about the future of our species after all.

Her

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Actually no, they instead blackmailed a judge within the Hague court itself. It’s not genocide when Jews kill people systemically.

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The African continent is one of the hottest climates on the planet, so maintaining agriculture on any large scale would be very difficult. Massive flooding in some of the other regions that weren’t dry would also make agriculture very difficult. This is probably why Africa never developed much out of the hunter gatherer stage of development because the entire weather climate of the continent worked against them.

And of course as far as natural predators are concerned Africa has the most different kinds as far as continents go.

So, with all of that taken into account that would be my own theory as to why Africa has always been less developed compared elsewhere in the world. But as far as physical attributes are concerned where I mentioned athleticism being a particular strength to African peoples a combination of all those environmental factors certainly contributed to that. You have to be very athletic to survive in a constant hostile environment like that where there are a variety of different creatures trying to eat you all the time.

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@Kallikantzaros

I feel like I am repeating myself, but it isn’t Marxism, it’s neoliberalism. Marxism and neoliberalism isn’t the same.

Marx didn’t believe all of race and ethnicity revolved around social factors, those are neoliberal misinterpretations to fit its own political agenda.

Marx did speak out against African slavery and the practice of slavery in general but in no way did he say that race or ethnicity doesn’t exist. Those are neoliberal ideological motifs.

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I live in a country that up until 1966? had a White Australia policy, and it was only changed because it was believed Australia was at risk of invasion because of its small population.

Obviously this policy was openly racist, which probably explains why Australia today is still openly racist.

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