Reality is stranger than you can imagine

The Nature of Reality

The nature of ‘reality’ is not only stranger than you imagine, it’s stranger than you can imagine!

There is a saying that “truth is stranger than fiction” and this certainly applies to the nature of reality, because in the light of increasing evidence, what we have accepted to be the ‘truth’ about our everyday reality is much more like the ‘fiction’ of our everyday reality.

Some of the most searching questions that we may ask ourselves in the course of our lives are:

Who am I?

What is my purpose in life?

What is the meaning of life?

What happens when I die?

Our most basic understanding of ‘reality’ is that we are born, we live, and we die. But for many of us this is not enough; we instinctively ‘feel’ that there is more to life than just producing the next generation of humanity and trying to do our best in our allotted ‘three score years and ten’.

Our intellect cries out for rational answers and to satisfy this aspect we look to classical science. Scientists generally work in terms of a mechanical universe of solid and separate bits and pieces fitting together to make up the equivalent of a giant machine. However, many people feel there is another side to their nature, which some call ‘spiritual’, and it is to satisfy this aspect of themselves that they look to the various world religions.

Science and religion have been at loggerheads for hundreds of years in their attempts to prove their worldview as the correct one. Despite each gaining the upper hand from time to time, they both divide reality into two, the ‘physical’ and the ‘spiritual’. In truth, neither of them has provided a satisfactory explanation of the human experience, nor have they been able to unite to form a single, all-encompassing worldview.

The mechanical view of the universe held by classical science fails to include and explain non-mechanical phenomena such as telepathy, remote viewing or out of body experiences, to name just a few. These phenomena are far too well tested and documented to be dismissed, so they must be incorporated into whatever scientists propose as a plausible worldview.

Similarly, religions have failed to explain how, in a universe presided over by a loving and peaceful, almighty ‘God’, immense human suffering can be seen or experienced. This suffering can be on an individual basis through hideous diseases such as cancer or AIDS, or the staggering loss of life in such disasters as a tsunami, earthquake or volcanic eruption. We inevitably have to ask the fundamental question, is ‘God’ unable or unwilling to prevent this suffering? Whichever way this question is answered has to create serious doubts about the religious worldview and what ‘God’ is supposed to be.

It is therefore obvious that there is something drastically wrong with the prevailing scientific and religious worldviews; with the common understanding of the so-called ‘physical’ and ‘spiritual’ worlds and the general explanations provided by either science or religion.

This leads to the staggering conclusion that we have a flawed approach to understanding our world and its problems. Inevitably this impairs our ability to subsequently solve these problems, whether they are on a personal or world scale.

If our approach is flawed, then what is the correct approach?

In their search for answers to this question, increasing numbers of people have turned to ‘alternative religions’ and belief systems. Within the vast array of these belief systems there are some that provide genuine insights into the nature of reality, but there are many that are misleading.

A large number of ‘new age’ belief systems have borrowed from the eastern philosophies. They generally talk about the ‘wholeness’ of reality or that everything is ‘one’, but then continue to philosophise about the nature of reality in the ‘dualistic’ terms of ‘spiritual’ and ‘physical’. This is, of course, necessary to some extent because of the limitations of language and intellectual conceptualisation, but it becomes a real detriment to understanding the true nature of reality if ‘dualism’ is part of the belief system.

So where are we to go to find satisfactory answers that will not burden us with yet another set of dogma?

To answer this we need to ask ‘what is the true nature of reality’.

The quest to find answers for our modern times has been taken up by the ‘new science’ of quantum physics. Discoveries of the last 100 years have taken physicists investigating the quantum world to new understandings that are truly astounding.

What is most interesting is that quantum physics seems to have brought science closer to what the ancient wisdom philosophies have alluded to for thousands of years but do not explain in words and concepts that are of practical use in everyday life.

The ‘physical’ world that we have taken for granted to be solid and separate from us can be shown to be a trick of the senses, which in themselves are aspects of consciousness. The apparent ‘materiality’ of the world is no more and no less ‘real’ than a dream-image.

Physicist John Wheeler, a one-time colleague of Einstein, has stated “useful as it is under everyday circumstances to say that the world exists ‘out there’ independent of us, that view can no longer be upheld”. More recently, physicist Professor Fred Alan Wolf has stated that “there is no ‘out there’ out there”.

This could all sound like the old idea of ‘mind over matter’, but it is vastly more than that. The implications start to become a little clearer when we consider the words of physicist Professor Amit Goswami who states that “Energy, Consciousness and Matter are the same thing”.

The consequences of that one seemingly simple statement are so far-reaching that it requires us to reassess everything we thought we knew about ourselves and our world.

It has led physicist Hal Puthoff to reassess Albert Einstein’s famous equation, E=mc2. Puthoff states that we should think of Einstein’s equation as a recipe for how much energy is required to give the appearance of matter, that is, the appearance of something ‘solid’. This begs the question “is there actually such a thing as a ‘solid’ object”?

This may sound like a crazy proposition as you sit on your ‘solid’ chair reading this article, but just think about it for a minute. Think about what happens when we are in the state of consciousness we call ‘dreaming’.

In dreams we can experience all the everyday activities of our waking state, such as walking, talking, meeting people, driving a car. We can see mountains, rivers, fields, houses. The dream floor we walk on seems to be ‘solid’.

All the objects and people we encounter in our dream state appear separate from us, external to us, and ‘solid’.

While we are deeply enmeshed in our dream, it is our total reality and we are aware of no other. It is only when we ‘wake up’ that we realise that all the objects and people that seemed ‘solid’, separate from us and external to us, were not. They were all creations of consciousness produced by us.

We need to remind ourselves of Professor Goswami’s statement, that “consciousness, energy and matter are all the same thing”.

The astounding conclusion to be drawn from this is that, as we create and control ‘dream’ objects, which are energy, we must in some way create and control everyday so-called solid objects, which are also energy.

Are you starting to feel the implications of this proposal?

If you are, then you will realise that there must be a process with which we create and control all of our everyday experiences.

Knowing the process will provide the radically new approach needed to solve our personal and world problems.

The desire to solve our world problems remains as strong as ever and people are increasingly dissatisfied with the continuing failure of the existing approach.

Therefore it’s good to see that there is a growing interest in exploring the true nature of reality.

Type ‘the nature of reality’ into any search engine and you can see the level of interest that exists.

It is certainly a fascinating topic to explore!

NoR

Matter, energy and time. What an interesting recipe for thought and growth, just make sure you are ready for this growth. It is an enticing path that will lead you away from you and loved ones. But is is a good path nonetheless. It sure ain’t boring.

  1. I’m not too sure that “out of body experiences” or “telepathy” HAVE been well tested. I’m much more inclined to believe that these phenomena exist only in the imaginations of people gulible enough to believe them, and that better insights into neurology and psychology have begun and will continue to dispell belief in these chimeras.

  2. Suppose the occult experiences you mentioned are real (I’ve already stated that I don’t think they are). You say science fails to explain them. Even if that’s true, that doesn’t mean that science CAN’T explain them eventually. The fact that we don’t have enough information about a potentially supernatural event to explain it now doesn’t mean we won’t have the necessary data in the future. You can’t automatically write off what we don’t know to the supernatural, simply because we don’t know it.

What true nature of reality? We’re stuck in the world of the phenomena, the world of things as we appear. We’re trapped inside the world of perception, the world of experience. There’s no way to begin exploring the noumena, the things in themselves, things as they “truly” are.

Yes, our perception alters our own personal reality. But there is no way to escape perception, thus there’s no way to get at the “true nature of reality”.

I don’t know about some of these supernatural claims, but quantum physics has been amazing. We have quantum teleportation and now the possibility of invisibility, both explained in a natural way. I suppose it’s possible that one day we might find some way to create a device for telepathy and psychokinesis.

Schopenhauer is the first to say that the reality is the representation of Will-- a mindless, aimless, non-rational urge at the foundation of all of our instinctual drives, and at the foundational being of everything.Recent theories proved Schopenhuaers’ metaphysics.

Hi theonefroberg

My posting stated that classical science fails to explain such phenomena, but modern physics is making huge leaps forward in this field.

I suggest that you study the research done into psychic phenomena by the respected scientific institutions of SRI and PEAR and the physicists Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ.

When you have done this you will realise that everything I have said in my original posting is supported by sound scientific evidence.

We are not ‘stuck’ at all, although limited by what we can know through intellect and explain with language, but by understanding that perception is a trick of the senses, we can better glimpse the true nature of reality.

NoR

Ok… well modern physics is still science. The theories of quantum uncertainity and wave-particle duality came up during scientific experiments. Modern Physics may be a little different in its content than classical physics, but it is none-the-less science.

Every single thing you will ever imagine can be visualized in space and time. Everything that you perceive, everything that has sense comes to you in space and time. It’s a form of pure intuition. You can’t intuite, ie sense anything outside of these two forms. The forms our perceptions take limit our intellect.

These forms of intuition exist in the mind of the perceiver. They give the mind structure. They are not properties of unperceived things, things in themselves. It is impossible to break out of this structure and see things as they really are, because these forms are the only way our minds can function. Once you’ve visualized a 5-dimensional cube that exists out of time, I’ll believe you.

  1. How does understanding that perception is a trick of the senses allow us to escape our senses?

  2. Earlier you said we are limited by our intellect and our language. I agree. So how can we know the true nature of reality if it cannot be perceived (perception limits intellect), and how can we say anything if we can’t talk about it (the only meaningful statements are those about the observable universe, the phenomenal world)? We can’t.

It seems to me that a lot this “new age” spirituality is almost like the Rationalism of Descartes and Leibniz. Both systems try to look for answers outside of experience. But rationalism was disgarded 200 years ago infavor of Kantian or neo-Kantian transcendental philosophy, which entails empiricism of a sort. Rationalism lost in the Enlightenment, and it seems like the same sort of idle speculation is creeping back in.

Will quantum physics find some Monads? I don’t think so…

You are too naive, if you think that two people with degrees represent any part of science. They don’t. They’re a pair of kooks. Same for SRI and PEAR. (That’s why it’s not a good idea to use pro hominems in your argument. When your pro hominem fails, so does your argument. Suppose a famous scientist changes his mind, does that change the truth?)

Hi NoR

But I would also say that resistance to such ideas as they objectively relate to our own being and the tendency to interpret them into something PC and egotistically acceptable but meaningless is growing as fast if not faster. Creating reality becomes delightful pure fantasy.

Being that such ideas can be consciously verified in ourselves requires a person to first accept their nothingness which is death to egotism which explains the majority of the resistance…

From the perspective of quantum physics, I’m drawn to Basarb Nicolescu’s explanations. I’m not a not a trained physicist so he can go over my head. But I try. Anyhow, if you appreciate such cutting edge thought so to speak, though in reality, quite ancient, you may appreciate the following which is a favorite of mine:

nicol.club.fr/ciret/bulletin/b12/b12c3.htm

To theonefroberg

First, this is not ‘new age’ spirituality, it is ancient wisdom that is thousands of years old not just a few hundred.

I said we are limited by language, but I also said ‘we can better glimpse the true nature of reality’. We have to engage ‘intuition’ for insights which may be translated into concepts of which intellect may be able to gain an understanding.

There is an old adage that says that “any new idea is first ridiculed, then attacked, then stated as self-evident”.

For further reading try homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/goswam1.htm

To YadaYada

On what basis is your statement - “they’re a pair of kooks”? Are insults your idea of a valid argument?

To Nick_A

I do not believe that we are actually ‘nothingness’, although our true nature exists outside time and space and so by comparison to our ‘physical’ existence it may seem to be nothingness.

You are right in that there is huge resistance to accepting these ideas because we are so used to the old world view and it appears that a lot of resistance exists on this forum.

As I said above, I agree that this way of thinking is actually ancient, it is the basis for eastern wisdom philosophies, it is just that quantum physics is at the cutting edge of science in providing some proof that the world view we hold is in need of a paradigm shift.

I have had a look at the article to which you provided the link and will read it through thoroughly, but it does seem rather complex. Maybe you can try my link above as you may find the interview a little easier to follow.

NoR

NoR gave me an erection - i’ll be quiet now.

Ok… so what? Just because ideas have been around for a long time doesn’t mean they’re 1) good 2) correct.

Ok… how do you do this then? How do you use your “intuition” to gain insights as to the true nature of things, and then somehow convert that into concepts which can be understood through our intellect (which is dependent on our senses)?

And how do you know you’re right? Will the Good Light of Reason just let you “KNOW” you’re right?

Ok… so what? Most new ideas do deserve to be ridiculed, because frankly many are ridiculous. There are some which actually are genius, which gradually gain acceptance as more and more people begin to see the logic/evidence behind it.

Just because a bunch of people ridicule/attack some new idea doesn’t mean it’s correct. It just means a bunch of people ridicule it.

Hi N o R

I read the link and the idea of the self aware universe is much like I have read concerning the conscious universe. Jacob Needleman who I hold to be one of our finest minds in these matters refers to it in his book “A Sense sof the Cosmos” The first chapter was reproduced on the following site. His interest is in its application to our being. It isn’t that we are nothing in a bad sense but nothing as described in Plato’s Cave analogy in that we live in imagination and out of touch with the nature of the conscious universe with us as a microcosmos should reflect. But we don’t and it is the largely unrecognized human condition that we lack the consciousness that we believe we have. As a result we live more as a reactive machine like ordinary organic life than as a conscious being which is our potential.

rawpaint.com/library/intro.html

I’m happy to at least read one other person here that is open to such ideas.

Hi Nick_A

I am familiar with an article written by Jacob Needleman but not his book. The article was very interesting and dealt with how to access ‘inner’ information; i.e. information that is not available through our ordinary sense perception. It was recommending the practice of meditation, which can indeed allow intuitive insights.

I take a slightly different slant on the Plato’s cave analogy, in that I believe people are so entrenched in studying the shadows on the wall of the cave that they are no longer aware that they are shadows. There is a paradigm shift needed to help people ‘turn round’ to glimpse what causes the shadows. This shift will allow us to certainly create a life more in line with our potential.

Considering the large number of posts you have made, are you saying that nobody else on this forum is open to such ideas?

Or maybe the majority of people who post here are those who are not open to such ideas and merely wish to criticise and ridicule for the sake of it.

NoR

I doubt it, I have a very powerful imagination.

Increasing evidence isn’t enough to make a claim of certainty. Try again.

Good old ‘what you’ve heard isn’t the truth, what I say is the truth’…

I’m me.

The one I give it.

The one I give it.

I die. (this is really basic stuff)

‘more’ - what’s so bad about reproduction? Some of the best fun that I’ve ever had was when reproducing (albeit with contraceptives at play to prevent actual reproduction).

Ha! We’ve never looked for rational answers. We’ve looked for practical and convenient answers. Rationality (just another metaphor) hasn’t a thing to do with how we look, though it has a lot to do with what we claim that we find.

I don’t look to classical science for answers. I don’t really look to science at all. So this vague generalisation of yours isn’t valid.

True enough, though the metaphysics that underpin science are a bit more complex than that.

Religion vs. Science and material vs. spiritual are false oppositions.

No, people have claimed that science and religion are at loggerheads (despite the existence of millions of people who are both religious and scientific) for hundreds of years. I don’t buy it.

True enough, though the issue here is ‘satisfactory’ - this needn’t have a thing to do with rationality.

Of course, no system or theory can expect to explain everything. Indeed, even calling something a ‘universal system’ entails a set of linguistic paradoxes that no scientist (or rational philosopher) will ever solve. Practically all the scientists that I’ve met or read about tend to just conveniently ignore any problems with language that criticially threaten the very basis of their claims. I imagine that they’ll catch up eventually.

The obvious theological answer is ‘to enable the difference between heaven, hell and earth’. If God stopped all the bad things from happening on earth then we’d already be in heaven (a place where everything is good, according to most versions of heaven). As such, the struggle, the choice between being good and being bad wouldn’t exist. Likewise, if there were nothing good about life then we’d already be in hell, and the choice would not exist.

Now, many religious people are simply too thick or too ignorant of theology to give this answer, but it exists and it answers this rather tired and boring question.

Staggering? More like the basis for all philosophical inquiry. If humans didn’t have a flawed understanding then we wouldn’t be having this discussion at all, we’d just be getting along with our perfect understanding. No offence, but I would have thought that this was obvious.

This is simply wrong. Our having a flawed understanding of the world doesn’t in any way bear a necessary connection to our ability to solve such problems. The two may be connected, but they aren’t necessarily connected. So there’s no ‘inevitably’ about it.

We don’t know.

How can something provide both genuine insights and be a flawed understanding?

Monism isn’t just an eastern idea.

Where language is limited, so is discourse. It’s actually a fallacy to say ‘language is limited’, though I say this (or something equivalent) quite frequently.

Nowhere. All beliefs systems turn into dogma eventually - either out of fear of being destroyed or arrogance at being dominant.

Why not just ‘what is the nature of reality?’ or why not ‘what is the real nature of reality?’

Again, philosophers have been dealing with this sort of thing for ages. I know of very few credible philosophers who’d claim that the world is something separate from us.

It is if we decide to interpret it that way, and this works in keeping with the arguments of quantum theory. I suspect that you haven’t really thought this through.

Wow. Like you said, this is an idea that has been around for bloody ages, so why is it so revolutionary just because a scientist happens to have said it?

It also sounds like the ground explored by early 20th century phenomenology.

So, monism.

Again, only if one were almost totally ignorant of philosophy, which has been dealing with such ideas for over 2000 years.

That’s like asking ‘is there such a thing as a word that means ‘solid’?’…

If we call something solid, then it is solid. If matter and energy is simply the same as consciousness and there’s no world without interpretation then this is valid.

Nonetheless it only seems like that, and in a much more fuzzy and confused way than when someone in waking life shoots you in the foot.

No, they appear fuzzy, dreamlike and unpredictable. If dreaming were like being awake then we wouldn’t be able to distinguish between the two, as such your argument wouldn’t even be able to make sense in the very first instance. You are contradicting your conclusion with your premises.

Not true. It is possible while dreaming to be aware of it being a dream.

Are you sure about this? Are you certain that you know what dreams are?

This doesn’t follow. And contradicts your premises.

Yes. I’ve been through this before and had much the same response as I’m offering now - this makes no sense, is contradictory and is dressing itself up as something radical when it couldn’t be more established and normal.

A process? Why would it have to be a process? You seem to be returning to the mechanism of ‘classical science’ in the process of claiming that you’re rejecting it. Again, this is contradictory and makes no sense.

Are they? Where is the indication of this increased dissatisfaction?

I’m not convinced that you’ve demonstrated anything about the ‘true nature of reality’ and I’m certain that you haven’t demonstrated and political or ethical ramification of what you’ve claimed.

Type ‘shaven blonde’ into any search engine and you can see the level of interest that exists. That won’t solve the world’s problems any more than these contradictory assertions that you are making.

Like I say, I think that you should go over this again.