Ha! 
Good to hear from ya BMW
BMW gets access to the heavily moderated forum? Fat chance!
Well it seems that now PF forums is back (with some changes) so Paul can return to his evil ways 
I will probably stick around here some, and frequent both forums or whichever is more interesting.
well, I hold nothing really against Paul. Except that he wonāt unbann me. I would have been a member of PF for 1 year this november. Iāve learned my lessen and reformed my ways, but he still refuses to unban me or the 250+ members that he has banned in just under the last 2 years,
I allways love to hear from old PF people. Say hi to soccerdad, Socrastein (I thought I heard he left, though), megashawn, FTheNaySayers, Pirammi, and of course, Dreamweaver. And, if I my name ever comes up in their conversations, make sure that whatever is said about me (either good or bad), is in fact, just. 
The last time I saw your name come up, when this guy āflatlinerā was banned, (he was stupid enough to make a poll thread, āshould flatliner be banned?ā) he then came back ranting, in a different name, and saying he was also known as BMW-guy. So I was like, āwhat??ā. That was it.
Well, I was not suggesting that you ever slammed my name, I was more or less pointing out that I was not naive to the mocking of me that occurs regularly on PF.
Mind you, I honestly frequent PF at least a few times each week to read the posts. I know all that goes on over there. Iāve watched it ever since I was banned.
What really upset me was when people on PF, who had been especially friendly with me before I was banned, joined the mockers as soo as Paul gave me the boot. I then relized who actually had an charcter to stand up for my good attributes (I was actually one of the polite people on PF, my language was 100%, I never did anything to intentionally anger anyone, and I was supportive of those who causes were not as popular). At that time, I was so new to how the web worksā¦
ā¦I honestly never relized that I was posting too much (I was not yet aware that it used bandwidth, or that it was annoying). Paul never gave me a formal warning. He cut my post count in half, but then told me it was a glitch in the system. And you know well how Paul can be. I took him to be serious and not joking, so I nhever had any incentive to change. 
Petty cliques on the intraweb? I am shocked!
Shame to see it happen with a site dedicated to Philosophy, but it isnāt like it doesnāt happen here. I am guilty of it as well. The most noticeable was my dealings with Whitey. I even tried defending the guy once, just so it didnāt seem like the people ganging up on him was done for petty reasons. But he really made it tough to even discuss his ideasā¦ he simply would not stop the intellectual snobbery typical of many Philosophy students/grads so doglike in their happiness to finally have a bone.
I was not whitelotus however. I had made both good (especially in the religion board) and bad posts, but I was never obnoxious. My over-posting, I imagine became annoying, but never obnoxious.
What irks me to no end is how Pail has treated me suince then. When I was banned, I left peacefully. Unlike 95% of the other bannings, I never attepted to re-register, or flame the admins/mods, or intentionally bad-mouth Paul on various forums. I humbly accepted my banishment hoping to improve, and later, re-join PF. Itās been a long time now, and Iāve more than proved myself worthy of re-joining. Iād even accept an un-banning there on the conditions that I posted no more than 10 times per month. But, in the mean time, Iām mocked as a double for each obnoxious poster on PF. they say, āI bet so-and-so is really bmwguy!ā.
I really was not that bad of a guy, but they love making me look otherwise. Half of the members are all suck-ups to Paul (you kinda feel like you sorta have to over on PF if you wish to stay in his favor).
I even sent Paul a dollar (well before I was banned). I wanted to prove my intergrity to him. He reluctantly made me a ācontributerā, but he has since removed my name from the contributerās list.
Well, I certainly donāt blame people for sucking up to Paul ahem, they donāt want to be banned. It keeps people in line too, as I recall you were polite to him yourself. But I really donāt think the sucking up matters too much in the end, Paul doesnāt have time for that crap. He just bans people whose posts have no philosophical content or otherwise detriment the forumsā¦ its a dirty job, but someones got to do it. Its possible that Paul dislikes or even loathes certain posters, but refrains from banning because of content or other merits. Besides, its a free web site, its like being a guest in someones house, not a public service.
Paul has a policy of no un-bannings I guess, so I wouldnāt take it personally that he wonāt un-ban you. It was a mistake to think so, and probably results in much disappointment 
If he did that how many others would try the same thing? Heās got enough problems on his hands, as recent events emphasize.
Your over-posting I believe was the reason for your banishment. I even remember you making your ā1000 postā in the middle of a thread I was writing 
Well, I my only issues are:
According to Dreamweaver, he has banned at least 250+ members in just two years. This is unheard of. It is either his forum has some unique power to attract an exceptional ammount of idiots, or he just banns too much. Iām inclined to think it is the latter.
While paul has professed a no un-banning policy, he has, in fact, un-banned at least a few members within 2004 (I canāt remember which members in specific, though). It has not been many members, but itās not like he has never done it in recent times.
You will notice that I am never one saying that, I point out that you are not whoever they say you are.
How I have treated you since the banning is obviously exactly how someone should be treated after they are removed: not at all. It is of course clear that you donāt accept the meaning of the word ābanā but thatās not my problem.
Anyhow, Iāve got some good contributions to add to your listā¦ material sent via the contact form rather than posted:
One of those was directed at dreamweaver, but anyhow theyāre all to administrators. The human race can be an endless source of amusement sometimes.
I could be wrong, but last I checked it was more like 130. Anyhow, Iām sure there are plenty of forums that ban more than 2% of members (some web hosting forums seem to ban quite a lot) ā though Iāll agree that there may not be any other philosophy forums that do so. That there isnāt, by the way, illustrates a need for the niche of a more formally-oriented philosophy forum to be filled. There would be no sense in every forum having the same policies, this would simply lead to people not having a choice and not being able to find the forum that suits their interests/goals best.
The only person I have ever unbanned is Esran, who I simply made too quick of a decision on. I realized Iād judged on too little evidence so I reversed the decision after Esran and dreamweaver convinced me of that.
Dreamweaver and DarkCloud occasionally do temporary bans on people. These have clearly stated durations, like dreamweaver banned someone for a week once I remember.
You really ought to tell that to Gramm the next time he moderates one of my posts, to TecnoTut the next time he tells me my metaphysical views are incoherant, or tell the people who tell me they like me yet get banned (yourself included). (In fact, people sucking up is an instant tipoff that they may have done something wrong and raises the odds that it will be researched and taken note of, thus getting them banned.)
Certainly not. You seem like a good guy, I just have to make judgments about who can and canāt contribute to the purpose of a forum. I took plenty of time to be sure I was making the right decision with you.
Hey, all you guys, [u]STOP IT[/u]
This isnāt PhilosophyForums, and so this fued youāve brought with you doesnāt belong here. You can carry on bitching at each other by email if you like.
damn you HVD! spoil all the fun 
Lighten up dude. I at least put the āfu-edā in the āmundane babbleā section. What the hell do you expect, you seem to already have spent the time reading it.
Those hate-messages are hilarious, Paul 
. (even without my sucking up)
BMW-Guy -
PhilosophyForums has 7000+ members. Its a big site, and there are a lot of idiots that come to post. Youāre inclined to the latter- in reasonable bias (considering you were banned).
I read somewhere that it was his policy.
If you want to see an abuse of the ban button, try checking out something like the Objectivism forums.
I gotta agree. It isnāt like they are showing porn or sending threats mentioning bodily harmā¦ why shouldnāt this be in Mundane Babble?
I donāt know. I imagine if we all went over to PF and bitched about Ben, Paul would probably ban us. Paul sounds rather like an imperious kid.
Yeah, I can see your point. But in general, I just wanted to defend our god given right to call each other names in this particular forum anyway.
and itās a damn good thing to defend - douchebag - Nooo just kidding.
Any and all references to me being in close and intimate proximity to vaginas is the highest form of compliment. I thank you.[/i]
by the way. philosophy forums.com is back online.